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hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:09 PM Mar 2020

No. Just fucking no. This is America, damn it!

Is there NO way that Trump can’t be over-ruled? Can Congress put the Defense Production Act into play?

Do we have no recourse than to sit here and die because of this moron?

All my life, I’ve been told that I lived in a democracy; that the President wasn’t a king. Now, I’m being told that because of my age, it may get to a point where I won’t even be treated if I get the virus.

I don’t accept that. I refuse to accept that. Options? Let’s get some ideas going.

This is STILL America, damn it. What can we do? We need to organize and flood the switchboards of representatives at a minimum.

Options? Anyone else feel this way?

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No. Just fucking no. This is America, damn it! (Original Post) hamsterjill Mar 2020 OP
options? only 2... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #1
The Constitution doesn't give the executive "virtually unlimited power" misanthrope Mar 2020 #2
that's an opinion..... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #4
It's a matter of design misanthrope Mar 2020 #6
If you don't mind confinement + hero worship there are options? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #3
People over 60 with an added health conditions or morbidity.... magicarpet Mar 2020 #5
From original poster above.... magicarpet Mar 2020 #7
CALL your rep offices every day demanding action DaBronx Mar 2020 #8
Yes, tell them to tell the COWARD to use the Defense Production Act Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #9
I agree. blm Mar 2020 #10
Welcome to DU bdamomma Mar 2020 #11

getagrip_already

(14,764 posts)
1. options? only 2...
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:20 PM
Mar 2020

Impeachment and election.

One is out and one is at risk.

We give the potus virtually unlimited power under the constitution, and we assume they won't abuse it. We also assume congress will remove the potus if they don't act responsibly and constitutionally.

Both of those assumptions aren't valid right now.

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
2. The Constitution doesn't give the executive "virtually unlimited power"
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:23 PM
Mar 2020

It is members of the legislative and judicial who are holding the checks on the executive at bay.

misanthrope

(7,418 posts)
6. It's a matter of design
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:47 PM
Mar 2020

The Constitution makes the checks and balances pretty clear. How or whether they are exercised is the result of the individuals involved.

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
5. People over 60 with an added health conditions or morbidity....
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:43 PM
Mar 2020

... better familiarize themselves with alternate pharmaceutical medications, off label, and Compassionate Authorization to cross label drugs. Those drugs are out there antimalarial and antiretroviral drugs are helping COVID-19 patients. Italy, Israel, France, Japan, South Korea, and China are using them to keep people alive. When there is yet no vaccine, ventilators are all in use, your only option might well be off label use of drugs.

In Italy today in the ICU wards no more ventilators for those over 60 years old.

This is no joke people.

Peleg said that, from what he sees and hears in the hospital, the instructions are not to offer access to artificial respiratory machines (ventilators)to patients over 60 as such machines are limited in number.  

https://m.jpost.com/International/Israeli-doctor-in-Italy-We-no-longer-help-those-over-60-621856

magicarpet

(14,155 posts)
7. From original poster above....
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 03:49 PM
Mar 2020

"Now, I’m being told that because of my age, it may get to a point where I won’t even be treated if I get the virus."

See comment 5.

DaBronx

(297 posts)
8. CALL your rep offices every day demanding action
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:06 PM
Mar 2020

First time post and new to DU so please forgive any posting faux pas.
The time has come and is well overdue for every American to call his or her representatives immediately and every day. From local to federal, every day if you can, demanding action immediately.
This president and all of his enablers will continue to do nothing while hundreds of thousands if not a million Americans die. This forum is a good place to vent but if you want to do your part, call every local, state and federal rep and demand action. We need med supplies, ventilators and national emergency production. We need hospitals built. People need to stay at home and we need the national guard for support. Do not wait for this president to do anything. They are lying every day and even people like Dr. Fauci are censored. Something happens to people when they enter the circle. Even our local politicians who are trying to do the right thing will become numb to an unacceptable reality. Please wake them up with your calls every day.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
9. Yes, tell them to tell the COWARD to use the Defense Production Act
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 04:37 PM
Mar 2020

in an AGGRESSIVE Way like we did in WWII, otherwise we die

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
11. Welcome to DU
Sun Mar 22, 2020, 05:19 PM
Mar 2020

and your comments are very informative. I agree we need to keep on calling our Reps and Senators and demand test kits, also equipment to our local hospitals and our drs and nurses.

We must not fear but demand. Let's fight back hard. We will not let these rich bastards take us down.

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