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Just putting a bit of sobering perspective on the Sea of Red in the John Hopkins map.
First, it is interestingly sad that many, many, many small islands in the Pacific, Indian and Atlantic Oceans are being impacted. The travel in SOME not all of these places cannot be that great.
Second, this calls into question the droplet alone theory. In other words, just droplets or their presence therefore, spread the virus. Leaning heavily towards this is a Droplet and Airborne virus - similar to Smallpox prior to eradication.
Third, outside of the islands another couple of points stands out. Demark and Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. These are not the most easiest places to get too. They are cold or very cool this time of the year. Brings into mind jet stream or airborne again. The far northern areas have recently started to show up with infected people. Yes, air travel certainly can be a factor but - there is another thought on COVID-19 spreading so far, so fast to so many remote (islands) or northern places.
Fourth, the warm weather will kill the virus theory has been busted. At least for this early spring that is. Argentina cases continue to rise. South Africa is a hot zone. The Maldives that is surrounded by the warmer water of the Indian Ocean has cases too. Maybe its travel related in the Maldives but what about Timor-Leste or Seychelles? How many folks that are not frequent world travelers ever heard of Timor-Leste?
Fifth, in countries were the spread is much less - Taiwan for example - large amounts of the population that are not health care workers - are wearing masks. So is China citizens now. Look at a news reports from there (these places) - non-American base. The health-care, first responders workers here in the States CERTAINLY have masks first due to being on the front lines. However, there is a wonder and a theory if the average citizen should have the same someday in the future?
If -- and this is a HUGE IF -- the virus is Airborne transmitted as well as Droplet based, then Staying in Place is a good start but the next move soon as to be the stop the spread of possibly Airborne and Droplet transmissions by -- wearing masks as well as other measures Americans might not be comfortable with doing daily.
The map is the map and COVID-19 is growing, mutating (which is not good) and possibly getting stronger - nearly everywhere. This is why Trump's lackadal response is all the more DANGEROUS to OUR LIVES and WELL-BEING.
The John Hopkins COVID-19 map is here: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,757 posts)Denmark, which is no colder than Britain, is very easy to get to; it has a border with Germany and is connected to Sweden by a freeway bridge. Copenhagen is a major European city with a major airport. People fly in and out besides driving there from Sweden or Germany.
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)while I have been out. On the three occasions which I have left my home for food or a doctor's visit I am covered and acting like I have the virus. It also reminds me not to touch my face. My dentist three weeks ago though I was funny when I asked them if they washed their hands and I offered my mask for them to wear. I was their first and only concerned patient. This week they are closed except for emergencies. I guess I wasn't being so funny after all.
I do not listen to American govt officials since I do not trust them a bit. I am going to keep recycling my mask and my cloth and rubber gloves....it is better than nothing and is a reminder to NOT TOUCH!
cilla4progress
(24,744 posts)in any way?
BigmanPigman
(51,611 posts)Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)way meaning it is not getting stronger or more transmissible. What you are seeing on the map is what exponential growth looks like and also, Id guess, more testing. It seems you are suggesting it is being carried on the jet stream? Not even close to possible.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)As we don't know ---- for the "not even remotely possible".
Everyone has rights to opinions, even wrong ones. Have a great day.
TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Laurelin
(529 posts)Denmark is a very short flight from me, but I prefer trains. Last time I went I got on a train in Germany. Shortly afterwards the announcements were in Danish instead of German. Technically the last time I went was Christmas, when my flight home was delayed and I was rerouted through Copenhagen. Until covid19 the borders were open and it's a fairly popular destination.
I heard a rumor that Denmark and Sweden aren't doing so well on social distancing. I hope they'll be ok
DonaldsRump
(7,715 posts)When I was there about 20 years ago, it was totally full with folks from the UK and France. I'm not sure now, but I think tourism is its number 1 industry.