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malaise

(269,144 posts)
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:19 PM Mar 2020

Who knows - the Coconut is a miracle fruit

https://www.goodnewspilipinas.com/filipino-developed-virgin-coconut-oil-derivative-as-covid-19-cure-tested-in-singapore/
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A Filipino-developed virgin coconut oil derivative as cure to the COVID-19 is being tested in Singapore as the dreaded coronavirus continues to spread across the world and while researchers, scientists, pharmaceutical companies, and medical institutions are scrambling to create a vaccine and are pitching in to find a cure to stop the dreaded coronavirus.

After Ateneo de Manila University professor Dr. Fabian Antonio Dayrit published his research at the end of January 2020 on the potential of the antiviral activity of coconut oil’s lauric acid and monolaurin to cure viruses such as what was then known as the novel coronavirus (nCoV), the Philippine government announced it was sending samples for testing in Singapore.

The Ateneo study found evidence that suggests coconut oil and its derivatives have effective anti-viral compounds, based on several in vitro studies that support the potential of coconut oil, lauric acid and its derivatives as effective and safe agents against a virus such as what is now known as the Coronavirus Disease-2019 COVID-19.

The Philippines is now working with the National University of Singapore which has agreed to do more studies and is looking at the efficacy of virgin coconut oil against COVID-19, Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles said at a press briefing in Malacañang on February 24.

“We have heard very good studies with regard to its ability to neutralize the viruses, but for the COVID- 19, it is not clear,” said Health Secretary Francisco Duque III in an interview with CNN Philippines confirming the collaboration with Singapore.

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Who knows - the Coconut is a miracle fruit (Original Post) malaise Mar 2020 OP
No doubt this news will cause a run on coconuts in the grocery stores. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #1
No such problem in my parts malaise Mar 2020 #2
. jberryhill Mar 2020 #10
Everything in moderation malaise Mar 2020 #12
What I love about escovitch jberryhill Mar 2020 #15
LOL malaise Mar 2020 #17
LMAO! Lady_Chat Mar 2020 #6
It's worth pointing out spinbaby Mar 2020 #3
It's also worth pointing out that coconut water has long been viewed as malaise Mar 2020 #11
We bought whole coconuts, removed the husk, then broke the at140 Mar 2020 #33
Coconuts are always present here malaise Mar 2020 #40
LOL after I came to United States at140 Mar 2020 #42
One of my siblings hated vegetables until dad took her to an Indian restaurant in New York malaise Mar 2020 #43
The next item to hoard. dalton99a Mar 2020 #4
Running out to get some Needhams and Mound's Almond Joy candy bars,.. magicarpet Mar 2020 #20
More people are going to die falling out of coconut trees than from the virus! Beakybird Mar 2020 #5
We can say "Another Gilligan Bites The Dust". ret5hd Mar 2020 #14
You can't let the sweet tooth become worse than the cavity.... magicarpet Mar 2020 #22
Im not surprised. I'm supplementing with coconut oil and MCTs at the moment. I hope further... Anon-C Mar 2020 #7
You see, because it uses the lime. underpants Mar 2020 #8
We need prophylactic medications for hospital health care workers,... magicarpet Mar 2020 #9
Interesting ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #13
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh! malaise Mar 2020 #16
Hey, Everyone! ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #19
Yours was a very informative post malaise Mar 2020 #23
LOL Vinnie From Indy Mar 2020 #28
Where are Walter and Jesse when we need them! Danascot Mar 2020 #21
Yea, so, Chainfire Mar 2020 #30
No ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #39
Anyone studying semen? Brainfodder Mar 2020 #18
Actually malaise Mar 2020 #24
Siberian tiger seman,.. magicarpet Mar 2020 #25
Awww what a nice puddy tat! Brainfodder Mar 2020 #27
He certainly is protective of his dinner. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #29
Yah,.. I don't think he is inviting anyone to help him share. magicarpet Mar 2020 #31
He's a cat. They don't. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #32
My house cat Mittens is not quite so convincing... magicarpet Mar 2020 #34
An unexpected benefit is the hours of enjoyable fun you'll have peeling it! nt Buns_of_Fire Mar 2020 #26
Mel Blanc - I've Got a Lovely Bunch of Coconuts GreatCaesarsGhost Mar 2020 #35
That song isn't as old as I always thought it was DavidDvorkin Mar 2020 #36
Hahahha malaise Mar 2020 #37
I have terrible reading comprehension.... so IcyPeas Mar 2020 #38
Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah malaise Mar 2020 #41
No coconuts in Chicago. I wonder if they migrate? Gidney N Cloyd Mar 2020 #44

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,806 posts)
1. No doubt this news will cause a run on coconuts in the grocery stores.
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:22 PM
Mar 2020

And some idiot who has eaten nothing but coconuts for a couple of months will drop over dead from elevated cholesterol.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
2. No such problem in my parts
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020

I can find the best virgin coconut oil with ease - in fact we have a half gallon in the kitchen. We use it for cooking.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
10. .
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:32 PM
Mar 2020
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0066625

In Jamaica, CVD is now the leading cause of death with an estimated crude mortality rate from ischemic heart disease and stroke of 110 per 100 000 in 2008 [5]. This is consistent with local national surveys which have demonstrated a high prevalence of CVD risk factors such as obesity, hypertension, diabetes and elevated cholesterol in Jamaica [6].

malaise

(269,144 posts)
12. Everything in moderation
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020

I would argue that heavy use of carbs and love of fried chicken do way more harm than anything associated with coconuts.

spinbaby

(15,090 posts)
3. It's worth pointing out
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:25 PM
Mar 2020

That lots of stuff kills viruses in a test tube. This does not translate to useful for killing viruses in a living human.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
11. It's also worth pointing out that coconut water has long been viewed as
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:33 PM
Mar 2020

a valuable human asset in many parts of the world

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10674546

The intravenous use of coconut water.
Campbell-Falck D1, Thomas T, Falck TM, Tutuo N, Clem K.
Author information
Abstract
Medical resources routinely used for intravenous hydration and resuscitation of critically ill patients may be limited in remote regions of the world. When faced with these shortages, physicians have had to improvise with the available resources, or simply do without. We report the successful use of coconut water as a short-term intravenous hydration fluid for a Solomon Island patient, a laboratory analysis of the local coconuts, and a review of previously documented intravenous coconut use.

at140

(6,110 posts)
33. We bought whole coconuts, removed the husk, then broke the
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:23 PM
Mar 2020

hard shell in two with a steel hatchet. Then the fresh coconut semi-spheres were grated to remove all the edible parts. Then finely chopped green chilies and fresh garlic was added to the grated coconut, and the mix was used as a starting point to cook everything in the kitchen on that day. Good thing my parents had a full time cook, because cooking was a lot of work without any refrigeration, so everything was cooked from scratch every day. Never used anything ready made, not even bread. Naan was made everyday from wheat flour. But everything was tasty and healthy and not expensive ingredients. Meat was once a week treat for dinner and it was always goat meat. Such was the life growing up in India, and that home cooked simple unbelievably tasty food is the only thing I miss from India.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
40. Coconuts are always present here
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 03:34 PM
Mar 2020

Coconut water, dry coconuts for the milk and coconut oil. I use the milk for several dishes and for baking.

I love naan or its roti sister - it is home made bread. I haven't touched red meat since 1979 but do eat seafood and bird meat - mostly chicken. I love Indian dishes with peas - split peas or chick peas.
Indians make the best Vegi dishes on the planet.

at140

(6,110 posts)
42. LOL after I came to United States
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 05:57 PM
Mar 2020

I understood why American kids hate vegetables. Most are simply boiled or steamed vegetables. Kinda boring.
I got to tell you an anecdotal story of my boss in Chicago. He loved Indian restaurants so him and I frequented them during lunch time often. One time I suggested him that we visit this all vegetarian restaurant in Westmont. On the ride there, he kept wondering if he will find anything to eat there and might go hungry. But we go there, and he is sampling from the 30 or more items. When we were finished and leaving, he quipped "I think I understand now how Indians can live on vegetarian food, there were so many tasty dishes in that restaurant". Thanks for reading so far malaise.

malaise

(269,144 posts)
43. One of my siblings hated vegetables until dad took her to an Indian restaurant in New York
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 05:59 PM
Mar 2020

She didn't even know she was eating egg plant - she hated it

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
20. Running out to get some Needhams and Mound's Almond Joy candy bars,..
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:46 PM
Mar 2020

YUM yum yum. Hoarding was never so much fun.

Anon-C

(3,430 posts)
7. Im not surprised. I'm supplementing with coconut oil and MCTs at the moment. I hope further...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:27 PM
Mar 2020

...studies prove it's efficacious.

magicarpet

(14,160 posts)
9. We need prophylactic medications for hospital health care workers,...
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:31 PM
Mar 2020

.... to protect them so they don't catch this deadly virus. Then for the elderly and those with other illnesses and morbidities so the Coronavirus does not kill them.


Hope they locate something quick.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
13. Interesting
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:35 PM
Mar 2020

For those that read the link, it's not coconut oil itself, although they're working on that.
The known antiviral activity comes from lauric acid and monolaurin.
The first is a fatty acid with 12 carbon atoms. It's made by splitting the oil with a strong base ( sodium or potassium hydroxide.)
It splits off the glycerin & makes soap! This approach has been used since ancient Sumarians!
React the soap with hydrochloric acid and we get the fatty acids and salt.
It specifies C12 so the other chains would be distilled away. This means it's not a DIY project at home.
The second is the monoglyceride, which according to this article has antiviral properties, but is a natural emulsifier.
It's made by taking that lauric acid made above & catalytically reacting it at the right proportion with some of that glycerin we split off.
Good thing is that both of these are very bland in test & have VERY low odor.
Oil Chemistry 101 class is dismissed! LOL!

malaise

(269,144 posts)
16. Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:39 PM
Mar 2020

That said since it is clearly not a home project - I will continue to drink the water and use the oil.
The coconut is a miracle fruit.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
19. Hey, Everyone!
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 01:44 PM
Mar 2020

Malaise yelled at me!
Sorry about that pedantic post. I couldn't resist. I used to guest lecture on oil chem to Organic Chemistry students.
I have Bailey's Fats & Oils practically memorized.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
39. No
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 03:03 PM
Mar 2020

Much easier. Way less dangerous too.
I'd be expecting someone to be knocking on my door if I derailed the best way to make meth here on the internet!

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
27. Awww what a nice puddy tat!
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:08 PM
Mar 2020


Tranq. and drain the nectar of life directly from the source?

Maybe if it pays exceptionally well?


DavidDvorkin

(19,481 posts)
36. That song isn't as old as I always thought it was
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:43 PM
Mar 2020

I thought it dated back to the English music halls. It is English, but it was composed in the 1940s.

IcyPeas

(21,899 posts)
38. I have terrible reading comprehension.... so
Thu Mar 26, 2020, 02:55 PM
Mar 2020

in other words I can eat all the Almond Joys and Mounds bars that I can and it will cure me?

Is that right?



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