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uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:32 PM Mar 2020

Iceland and Italy testing finds 50% positive for CV19 Showed no symptoms

Iceland and Italy testing finds 50% positive for CV19 Showed no symptoms

We need a nationwide unrestricted unfettered testing effort to beat this virus.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.zmescience.com/medicine/iceland-testing-covid-19-0523/amp/

Not all the results from Iceland’s tests have come through yet, but the ones that have, show that half of all cases are asymptomatic (at the time of testing).

This would suggest that, on one hand, the virus is not as dangerous as we thought, but on the other hand, it would also suggest that it has spread far more than we are currently aware of.

These results are also indicated by a testing survey carried on an entire Italian town of Vo (population 3,300), where the results showed that more than 50% of all cases are asymptomatic.


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Iceland and Italy testing finds 50% positive for CV19 Showed no symptoms (Original Post) uponit7771 Mar 2020 OP
Ricola!! tavernier Mar 2020 #1
Do asymptomatic patients create antibodies against the virus? Sanity Claws Mar 2020 #2
I think the consensus is that they do. Doodley Mar 2020 #6
TY Sanity Claws Mar 2020 #12
Did you know that 51 doctors have died of Covid-19 in Italy malaise Mar 2020 #3
Which makes - I'm invincible, teenagers and college students ideal vectors. magicarpet Mar 2020 #4
It shows how the virus is spreading mainly by people who are unaware they have it. Doodley Mar 2020 #5
Large number of asymptomatic people makes it that much easier to spread. LisaL Mar 2020 #7
Can something like this lay low for months or even years then flare up like some other Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #8
The denialists will use evidence like this as "proof that this illness is not nearly as big a deal bullwinkle428 Mar 2020 #9
Maybe, however if the hospitals are getting overrun then it's clearly still a big deal Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #10
Half of the folks testing positive on the Diamond Princess were asymptomatic too. Quixote1818 Mar 2020 #11
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #19
Disagree that makes it more dangerous treestar Mar 2020 #13
My guess is that exposure levels may have something to do with it. Yavin4 Mar 2020 #14
Need home test kits. moondust Mar 2020 #15
THIS !!!! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #20
Initial viral load likely plays a big role here Azathoth Mar 2020 #16
From the very beginning we've been told that up to 80% of those infected PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2020 #17
Epidemiologists are left guessing how many are infected because GOPtrump withholds tests. Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #18
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2020 #21
k&r BSdetect Mar 2020 #22

magicarpet

(14,154 posts)
4. Which makes - I'm invincible, teenagers and college students ideal vectors.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

After they unknowingly infecting a big bunch of friends and folks, then the virus finally grabs hold and knocks them on their ass. Then realize hey I'm really really sick.

There is another testing routine going on in Colorado that should produce some helpful data, total town 8,000 people getting tested. Then 14 days later tested again

But as you say, testing, testing, testing will identify who needs to be quarantined until well. And give the data scientists need to manage this thing with the lowest death rate.

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Why a Tiny Colorado County Can Offer COVID-19 Tests to Every Resident
There are advantages to having biotech executives as neighbors.

SARAH ZHANG
MARCH 23, 2020

San Miguel County in Colorado has, in ordinary times, fewer than three full-time employees in its public-health department. It has no hospital. Its total population is only 8,000. And yet last week, the county became the first in the United States to announce that it would be offering all its residents a new kind of test for COVID-19.

The tests are being donated by United Biomedical, a multinational biotech company whose executives, a married couple, happen to live part of the year in Telluride, the resort town that is also San Miguel’s county seat.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/03/coronavirus-tests-everyone-tiny-colorado-county/608590/

Doodley

(9,092 posts)
5. It shows how the virus is spreading mainly by people who are unaware they have it.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:53 PM
Mar 2020

The only way to stop its spread is to test everyone and isolate those that are still infectious.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
7. Large number of asymptomatic people makes it that much easier to spread.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 09:57 PM
Mar 2020

So it's dangerous enough to kill a huge number of people by spreading far and wide.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
9. The denialists will use evidence like this as "proof that this illness is not nearly as big a deal
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:04 PM
Mar 2020

as the media is making it out to be". I've seen way too much of this attitude on Facebook, and it's just going to make things considerably worse, at least in certain areas.

Quixote1818

(28,940 posts)
10. Maybe, however if the hospitals are getting overrun then it's clearly still a big deal
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:13 PM
Mar 2020

and people will see that hospitals are getting nailed.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. Disagree that makes it more dangerous
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:44 PM
Mar 2020

It will spread faster. You can avoid sick people. They will stay home because they feel crappy. Well people will go out and spread it.

Yavin4

(35,440 posts)
14. My guess is that exposure levels may have something to do with it.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:46 PM
Mar 2020

You can contract it with a single exposure, but it probably isn't strong enough for you to develop symptoms or develop it further. However, get exposed more than once or constantly, and you will contract it and have severe symptoms.

moondust

(19,984 posts)
15. Need home test kits.
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:51 PM
Mar 2020

Last edited Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:32 AM - Edit history (1)

Something like a litmus test that a person can do alone 10 times a day if they so desire. Last night Bill Gates on CNN said they have compared swabs done by medical professionals and swabs done by patients themselves and found no difference, so maybe home testing is something Bill & Co. are working on.


ETA: I don't know if any trouble could develop from people knowing their test results themselves rather than authorities controlling the test results.

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
16. Initial viral load likely plays a big role here
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 10:57 PM
Mar 2020

Small initial exposure means fewer or no symptoms, while higher initial exposure produces more severe disease.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,858 posts)
17. From the very beginning we've been told that up to 80% of those infected
Fri Mar 27, 2020, 11:33 PM
Mar 2020

have no or only mild symptoms. Which means, this really isn't all that dangerous except that it is infecting huge numbers of people.

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