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Birx isn't a doctor, she's a bible thumper! (Original Post) Coventina Mar 2020 OP
Trump Trash, MD dalton99a Mar 2020 #1
DO NOT THROW HER IN THE TRASH CAN bubbazero Mar 2020 #2
a Point taken, biohazard like her shouldn't be put in the trash. Coventina Mar 2020 #3
Let's say no to slander and religious bigotry. Hortensis Mar 2020 #14
She may have been great once, now she's just another Trump enabler. Coventina Mar 2020 #15
She reminds me of my mom - a tRump Humper alittlelark Mar 2020 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Mar 2020 #5
She is SUPPOSED to be a Scientist. alittlelark Mar 2020 #6
Birx was nominated by President Barack Obama as United States Global AIDS Coordinator and confirmed Celerity Mar 2020 #7
Now, just another member of the death cult. spudspud Mar 2020 #8
yeah he screwed up there. It just shows people should be checked out more rockfordfile Mar 2020 #9
He couldn't know she'd put her beliefs before science uponit7771 Mar 2020 #12
Obama really didn't have the necessary instincts for today's Republicans Azathoth Mar 2020 #18
Not surprising nt Meowmee Mar 2020 #10
K&R smirkymonkey Mar 2020 #11
Sorry, but experts who know her have a lot more respect Hortensis Mar 2020 #13
Sorry, but a Trump enabler is doing active harm to the country. n/t Coventina Mar 2020 #16
Coventina, would you be prepared to die on that stand Hortensis Mar 2020 #17
Nothing obligated her to carry water for Trump. And no, I wouldn't never do so. Coventina Mar 2020 #20
Yeah, we know. Kelly and McMaster used the same mental gymnastics Azathoth Mar 2020 #19
I get it. They really are taking the long term approach, knowing that Ilsa Mar 2020 #21
She was hired by PBO HarlanPepper Mar 2020 #22
Me too. I trust Obama's judgment. lostnfound Mar 2020 #23

bubbazero

(296 posts)
2. DO NOT THROW HER IN THE TRASH CAN
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 02:11 AM
Mar 2020

This is a live specimen, which can be studied, tested, examined, observed, and thoroughly analyzed to determine what caused her to behave this way. This was a bright, intelligent, woman---sharp enough to earn an MD---politically savvy enough to work to the top of her field---and still came under the spell of President Dinky. Exactly how does this "Twit in Chief" manage to turn otherwise seemingly sensible people, into Bubbleheaded Blubbering idiots, whose main goal seems to be the nauseating worship and relentless praise of this man-baby. NO, NO, NO She could be the start. The first specimen. The very horse's ass from which the intellectual serum could be derived! (think of the possibilities--just like Diphtheria--she could be the first step towards curing Trump induced Dipshitera)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Let's say no to slander and religious bigotry.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:27 AM
Mar 2020

Birx has been in the forefront of both HIV/AIDS research and containment and treatment for over 30 years, also other diseases. She is reportedly evangelical, and over those years she's spoken with religious groups who knows how many times to educate and help get them working on the right side.

Look, I'm sure she has faults (just like our too often devastatingly displayed ones), and being a top scientist and administrator whose work has saved millions of lives doesn't guarantee that she's entirely ethical or honest, or even rational, in nonscientific aspects of her life. (Again like all too human people here.)

But just the briefest search into her extremely impressive life would, one hopes, have substantially changed the tone of this OP. I found almost no mention of religion at all. But it does seem likely that her religion was a reason religious fanatic Pence chose her for this task force. The religious right has packed the Trump administration with their choices, and they have to be dealt with just as Trump does. Anyone who doesn't keep on their good side also will be fired.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
15. She may have been great once, now she's just another Trump enabler.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:04 AM
Mar 2020

Enabling Trump in killing Americans.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
4. She reminds me of my mom - a tRump Humper
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 02:37 AM
Mar 2020


My mom is a flat earther, anti-vaxxer, TRUE believer............ AND a very intelligent woman.

Response to Coventina (Original post)

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
18. Obama really didn't have the necessary instincts for today's Republicans
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:36 AM
Mar 2020

He was operating using norms and codes of conduct that were 50 years out of date -- like the redcoats who marched in orderly battlefield formations as they got ambushed and sniped from the bushes.

Mistake #1: the notion that a conservative's professionalism and intellectual seriousness will take precedence over their political religion and tribalism. That just doesn't happen anymore, even for conservatives in the hard sciences.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Sorry, but experts who know her have a lot more respect
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 08:52 AM
Mar 2020

both for her and for what she's trying to do under extremely difficult conditions.

Just last night Tom Nichols of the War College said the job of experts is to speak truth to power BUT, that Trump has a long history of firing people who tell him what he doesn't want to hear. He recommended we discount that "ritualistic cant" Trump requires and evaluate based on what they say in their professional capacity. (Understanding that even Dr. Fauci has at times fudged his statements, quite badly sometimes, rather than directly contradict what Trump just said.)

This was on Brian Williams' show last night, which presented a theme from beginning to end of megalomania and irrationality, including Trump repeating insistently that he wanted the governors he was battling with to be "appreciative" to him.

Williams quipped pointedly that a clip he showed of Birx lauding Trump's business and scientific expertise was "translated from the original North Korean." And after that he asked Nichols, when "job 1 of those at the podium is to praise Dear Leader," if we should pay attention to anything anyone but Dr. Fauci said. And the answer was yes, that they were trying to manage the pandemic. And success in that requires somehow managing a disordered president.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. Coventina, would you be prepared to die on that stand
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:22 AM
Mar 2020

if you could know that firing her would result in a failure that lead to your death?

Didn't think so.

You might want to consider that even if that is unlikely for you, it's not out of the realm of possibility for others. These epidemiologists are humiliating themselves as part of working and stressing themselves to exhaustion for a REASON. They're leading the federal pandemic response efforts in a government lead by what might as well be a madman. They're it inside the government and busy coordinating efforts as best they can with experts outside.

Coventina

(27,121 posts)
20. Nothing obligated her to carry water for Trump. And no, I wouldn't never do so.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:42 AM
Mar 2020

He is doing active harm, getting Americans killed NOW.

I really don't care about myself personally. I seriously don't.

But I do care about Trump killing others, which he's doing because HE'S BEING ENABLED!!!

Azathoth

(4,609 posts)
19. Yeah, we know. Kelly and McMaster used the same mental gymnastics
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:39 AM
Mar 2020

And just look how much they selflessly achieved

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
21. I get it. They really are taking the long term approach, knowing that
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

they have to "manage" trump and his narcissism. It's a shame that they can't figure out a way to remove him, like getting his medical doctor to find a way to declare him unfit. Or maybe doing something more sinister.

 

HarlanPepper

(2,042 posts)
22. She was hired by PBO
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:05 PM
Mar 2020

That good enough for me. That she’s religious does not inspire me to hate her.

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