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RandySF

(58,871 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:16 AM Mar 2020

Dr. Deborah Birx's comments 'startled' public health experts.

WASHINGTON — The White House coronavirus task force has featured two trusted medical voices, diplomatic but authoritative, able to gently push back on President Trump without incurring his wrath: Drs. Anthony S. Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Deborah L. Birx, the coronavirus response coordinator.

But this week, Dr. Birx’s comments casting doubt on talk of ventilator and hospital-bed shortages, and praising Mr. Trump’s attention to detail in lavish terms, have raised questions about her independence as the number of coronavirus infections in the United States has soared past 100,000.

Practically overnight, Dr. Birx has become a partisan Rorschach test. Conservative commentators have praised her as a truth-teller, pushing back on coronavirus hysteria. Critics of Mr. Trump accused her of squandering the credibility she had developed as a health official in Democratic and Republican administrations.

Dr. Birx’s comments, especially those dismissing ventilator shortages, startled some health experts. While most hospitals might have sufficient supplies at the moment, many worry about a crush of patients in the very near future.





https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/us/politics/deborah-birx-coronavirus.html

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Dr. Deborah Birx's comments 'startled' public health experts. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2020 OP
She is dead wrong. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #1
kompromat Skittles Mar 2020 #2
Like what? It makes no sense. So disconcerting. SunSeeker Mar 2020 #3
what makes accomplished people HUMILIATE themselves for a BUFFOON? Skittles Mar 2020 #4
The three trillion dollar question. 2naSalit Mar 2020 #6
In this case - Religion malaise Mar 2020 #8
and..... Skittles Mar 2020 #9
The Lord moves in mysterious ways. ZZenith Mar 2020 #11
It doesn't - she is also lying for a pathological liar malaise Mar 2020 #13
Oh no. I wear scarves. mrs_p Mar 2020 #15
I am a scarf queen myself but I bet we don't wear them like this tool malaise Mar 2020 #17
Haha. Yeah, they are like my mrs_p Mar 2020 #18
They complete my simple approach to dressing malaise Mar 2020 #22
Is there some kind of Scarsdale Mar 2020 #12
It could be any number of things. Smart people do stupid things, like cheat on taxes pnwmom Mar 2020 #16
When I worked for DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #5
Well there's pilots and crews already dying and more will. dem4decades Mar 2020 #7
That is true and DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #28
Put the resources where they are needed the most. Ramp up ventilator production, add toinventory. dem4decades Mar 2020 #29
I don't disagree, but here is what I think DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #33
They're reporting scientists' predictions. She's pretending that the number pnwmom Mar 2020 #19
JMHO, but I think there's some DeminPennswoods Mar 2020 #25
It's a horror movie, a really bad one. BigmanPigman Mar 2020 #10
Invasion of the Body Snatchers FakeNoose Mar 2020 #14
Beat me to it! captain queeg Mar 2020 #20
Best theory I've heard yet! lastlib Mar 2020 #21
Self immolation. gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #23
She's just one of a long line of Trump ass kissers. It's sickening. Vinca Mar 2020 #24
Baghdad Birx.😞 dewsgirl Mar 2020 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Freelancer Mar 2020 #27
Everyone around drumpf is compromised morally. lark Mar 2020 #30
I knew the very first presser that she was a toadie. IDK what it was but I didn't trust her. OrlandoDem2 Mar 2020 #31
Birx believes one-legged people can walk without crutches. dalton99a Mar 2020 #32

2naSalit

(86,636 posts)
6. The three trillion dollar question.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:55 AM
Mar 2020

I wonder too.

The first few days she looked like a hostage whose soul was being crushed with every word the POS spewed. Now she's become Patty fucking Hearst.

Skittles

(153,164 posts)
9. and.....
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 04:59 AM
Mar 2020

how does religion reconcile with supporting a three-times married, adulterous, pussy-grabbing con man?

ZZenith

(4,122 posts)
11. The Lord moves in mysterious ways.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:11 AM
Mar 2020

That’s what she’d tell you.

It’s possible that she’s insane.

malaise

(269,020 posts)
13. It doesn't - she is also lying for a pathological liar
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:47 AM
Mar 2020

I saw the clip where she lied her ass off about his attention to detail and I screamed.
Sis I hate to be simplistic but the scarves tell a story. They're all lunatics - I had to work with some of these morons - people with a plethora of certificates who reject every notion about science for religion. And yet they want that certification more than life itself.

malaise

(269,020 posts)
17. I am a scarf queen myself but I bet we don't wear them like this tool
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:17 AM
Mar 2020

A few weeks ago I was doing my annual wardrobe cleaning and hand washed every scarf I own. I was stunned at how many I own

malaise

(269,020 posts)
22. They complete my simple approach to dressing
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:40 AM
Mar 2020

Years ago a student of mine came to say farewell and told me that it hit her one day that I really like scarves and when she had a job and some money that was going to be her style. I ran into her years later and we both laughed. She looked so elegant.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Is there some kind of
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:15 AM
Mar 2020

hypnotic potion being added to tRump's makeup or hair spray? Most people fail to understand HOW anyone could be supportive of the clown, especially educated people. Pence gazes adoringly at him as though he is Ronnie to his Nancy. Anyone can see that tRump is not very bright, he is childishly ignorant. We are the laughingstock of the entire world, having that dumbass in the WH. Thanks gop, you outdid yourselves this time. We have a mental patient running the show.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
16. It could be any number of things. Smart people do stupid things, like cheat on taxes
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:17 AM
Mar 2020

or cheat on spouses or get drunk and mess up.

Or maybe she's just an evangelical nutcase who's hoping for the endtimes.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
5. When I worked for
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:53 AM
Mar 2020

the federal govt and wanted to get attention to the need for funding of/for one of my programs, I conjured up the worst possible outcome, usually ending in the death of a pilot or crew, and sent that up the chain of command in order to get what I needed. I think there is at least some of that going on with Cuomo and DeBlasio.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
28. That is true and
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:06 AM
Mar 2020

when it happens, it's horrifying. That's precisely why it works to get attention focused. From what I understand, the entire national stockpile of ventilators is somewhere between 10,000-13,000. They can't all go the NY, can they?

dem4decades

(11,296 posts)
29. Put the resources where they are needed the most. Ramp up ventilator production, add toinventory.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:15 AM
Mar 2020

Unfortunately the Idiot in Chief has failed, still it's a plan.

DeminPennswoods

(15,286 posts)
33. I don't disagree, but here is what I think
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 01:30 PM
Mar 2020

NY/Cuomo/NYC/DeBlasio could be doing. Right now they should put the specs for masks, gowns, ventilators and whatever else they need right there front and center on their websites and inviting anyone interested to suppy a prototype. I would not be worrying about potential patent infringement. There are lots of smart, innovative Americans eager to help I am postively sure.

There are all kinds of occupations that use face shields. I'd be asking NYC residents who are in occupations that use them to turn them in if they aren't being used. Maybe you don't want to wear a hockey helmet with a full face shield, but in a pinch, it might do.

Call for seamstresses. NYC was the center of the garment industry. I'd bet there are still plenty of seamstresses and tailors around.

I'm guessing ventilators are essentially air compressors. I'd bet any company that can make compressors, could make a ventilator given the correct specs.

I might also be looking at DoD's disposal and excess inventory website. DoD throws away a lot of stuff, maybe there's something useful that's headed for the scrap heap.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
19. They're reporting scientists' predictions. She's pretending that the number
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:20 AM
Mar 2020

of ventilators needed today -- which may be adequate at the moment -- has anything to do with how many will be critically needed in a week or two.

It would be grossly negligent of Cuomo and DeBlasio not to plan as far ahead as they could.

BigmanPigman

(51,599 posts)
10. It's a horror movie, a really bad one.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 05:06 AM
Mar 2020

They're all characters whose bodies have been taken over by someone or something named tRump.

captain queeg

(10,201 posts)
20. Beat me to it!
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 06:23 AM
Mar 2020

I swear, it’s beyond blackmail, or drugs, or hypnosis. They say Hitler was sort of hypnotic, if he was focused on you it was hard to resist him. I’m not religious, maybe the anti-Christ?

Vinca

(50,273 posts)
24. She's just one of a long line of Trump ass kissers. It's sickening.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 07:46 AM
Mar 2020

I thought since she was previously associated with Fauci she'd be normal, but it's not to be.

Response to RandySF (Original post)

lark

(23,102 posts)
30. Everyone around drumpf is compromised morally.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:37 AM
Mar 2020

She's made her bed with him and is now covered in flea slime and has become just another lying sycophant whose words are nothing more than lies. Only Fauci retains any shred of respectability.

OrlandoDem2

(2,065 posts)
31. I knew the very first presser that she was a toadie. IDK what it was but I didn't trust her.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 09:54 AM
Mar 2020

Maybe it’s the blankets that she wears. Or maybe it’s her Stepford look. She used to nod like a bobble head and that bothered me too. I’m just not surprised. I always knew that Fauci was our only hope.

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