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Faux News poll: 11% of liberals would vote for Trump ? What the fresh hell ?? (Original Post) steve2470 Mar 2020 OP
Trumpers trolling the poll? Flaleftist Mar 2020 #1
Poll participants wanting to "pwn the libs?" Knowing it was a fox poll in advance, I wouldn't be hlthe2b Mar 2020 #2
Which brings to mind that time they show a list of percentages 2naSalit Mar 2020 #3
Well, it's Fox. They lie. flying_wahini Mar 2020 #4
We don't know anything about the poll. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2020 #5
true nt steve2470 Mar 2020 #7
Why would you believe a Fox News poll?! Luciferous Mar 2020 #6
I've seen some Faux polls that actually seemed valid steve2470 Mar 2020 #11
Fox Polls Have Been Legitimate for Several Years-Get a Grade of A on 538.com Stallion Mar 2020 #23
Truly. Judi Lynn Mar 2020 #12
It's one of the better polls out there. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #15
They probably mean the machine Turbineguy Mar 2020 #8
I really question most polls. Had to study that for 2 semesters years ago at college. You can RKP5637 Mar 2020 #9
It is a Fox Poll Botany Mar 2020 #10
Your screenshot isn't a Fox poll. TwilightZone Mar 2020 #16
Yes but it was broadcast on Fox Botany Mar 2020 #18
Rasmussen is only C+ rated on 538, so their methodology isn't even as sound as a Grown2Hate Mar 2020 #38
That's some fancy ciphering right there. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #41
Susan Sarandon greenjar_01 Mar 2020 #13
Fake Newz! Sunriser13 Mar 2020 #14
Fox News Turin_C3PO Mar 2020 #17
Lost me at Fox News. Brainfodder Mar 2020 #19
here's an independent (I hope) organization that rates polls steve2470 Mar 2020 #20
Five out of three people struggle with math. nt Hotler Mar 2020 #21
LOL PA Democrat Mar 2020 #22
:-) Will save that one for re-use. nt LAS14 Mar 2020 #26
Hey Republicans are People Too Stallion Mar 2020 #29
The same ones who did in 2016 guess who? redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #24
Non-whites isn't African Americans. It includes hispanics, asians, native Americans. LAS14 Mar 2020 #25
good points nt steve2470 Mar 2020 #27
"Non-whites" is not a liberal group, though it contains both liberals Hortensis Mar 2020 #35
They are not fucking liberals if they vote for trump, and implies that perhaps still_one Mar 2020 #28
Lots of falsities perpetrated with false definitions. But Hortensis Mar 2020 #30
Say Hello To The Real Achievement Of 'Bernie', Sir The Magistrate Mar 2020 #31
Unlikely...BTW virus is going to be all we are talking about by Nov, doubt we will Eliot Rosewater Mar 2020 #32
self identified edhopper Mar 2020 #33
Hey! I just told this guy on the phone I was a liberal. underpants Mar 2020 #34
I know some people who call themselves liberals... ananda Mar 2020 #36
Maybe Sanders supporters customerserviceguy Mar 2020 #37
That poll seems messed up in several ways JCMach1 Mar 2020 #39
Sanders supporters LizBeth Mar 2020 #40
What strikes me is voters aged 65 and older. That is the conservative GOP base. Midnight Writer Mar 2020 #42
No liberals I know. ooky Mar 2020 #43
Fox News liberals maybe, which are just JesterCS Mar 2020 #44
What is their definition of liberal? LiberalFighter Mar 2020 #45
11% of the respondents are Libertarians who got confused. meadowlander Mar 2020 #46

hlthe2b

(102,282 posts)
2. Poll participants wanting to "pwn the libs?" Knowing it was a fox poll in advance, I wouldn't be
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:52 AM
Mar 2020

surprised. How hard is it to claim to be a lib on a poll?

2naSalit

(86,634 posts)
3. Which brings to mind that time they show a list of percentages
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:53 AM
Mar 2020

that added up to 110%.

I don't think most polls woll be correct anymore, the hacking is complete.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,708 posts)
5. We don't know anything about the poll.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:53 AM
Mar 2020

And some of those "liberals" could be Bernie Bros who have vowed to vote for Trump if Bernie isn't the nominee.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
11. I've seen some Faux polls that actually seemed valid
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:55 AM
Mar 2020

Granted, Faux is NOT my go-to source. This poll was probably wrecked by people lying.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
23. Fox Polls Have Been Legitimate for Several Years-Get a Grade of A on 538.com
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:08 PM
Mar 2020

...and they piss off the Orange Anus

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
15. It's one of the better polls out there.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020

538 has it rated A- with a slight Dem bias. Surprisingly, they use a pretty solid polling organization.

RKP5637

(67,109 posts)
9. I really question most polls. Had to study that for 2 semesters years ago at college. You can
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:54 AM
Mar 2020

twist polls anyway you want. It was a damn hard course at school. Seriously.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
18. Yes but it was broadcast on Fox
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:00 PM
Mar 2020

And I don't think Rasmussen would have posted bullshit #s like that.

Grown2Hate

(2,012 posts)
38. Rasmussen is only C+ rated on 538, so their methodology isn't even as sound as a
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020

Fox News poll, generally. They skew Republican (Rasmussen), whereas, oddly enough, Fox News polling skews SLIGHTLY Democratic. Interesting to see.

Sunriser13

(612 posts)
14. Fake Newz!
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 11:56 AM
Mar 2020

Seriously, though, while I give no credence to Faux, at least it shows all are over 50% Biden.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
25. Non-whites isn't African Americans. It includes hispanics, asians, native Americans.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:08 PM
Mar 2020

There are a lot of conservative hispanics in Florida, for one thing. I'm sure there are other kinds of GOP non-white voters.

But, yeah, maybe just a total misunderstanding of "liberal????"

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. "Non-whites" is not a liberal group, though it contains both liberals
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:36 PM
Mar 2020

AND some conservatives who register Democrat to protect against the Republicans. AA voters notably maximize their power by uniting -- within the Democratic Party -- and their bloc especially includes a fair number of conservatives. Black conservatives who vote strongly vote Democrat, though sometimes some may sit out votes like for our first woman president or first black woman governor of Georgia.

Btw, there is no personality type called "moderate." You're either moderate liberal or moderate conservative and either lean or strongly align left or right accordingly. So that one's suspicious; Probably people were invited to self identify and don't know any better; besides, calling yourself moderate's in style with many turned off by toxic partisanship. But they're either one or the other.

Although Sanders and other anti-Democrats insist our party has a bunch of people who are at least as conservative as liberal, some kind of hybrid Dem-Repub, that's just plain party character assassination. We're the liberal party, most members liberal, with fewer conservatives, who tend to be moderate cons overall.

Speaking of the Sanders lie, if we gathered in one place those few who are really so without political ideology and goals that they'd nod and shrug at both Trump's spite fence and wealth transfer to plutocrats and the Democrats' commitment to immigrant rights and progressive economic justice, it'd look something like Times Square does these days. And understandably, many of those odd-bits end up not bothering to vote. Probably only registered back in the pst because their girlfriend did.

still_one

(92,201 posts)
28. They are not fucking liberals if they vote for trump, and implies that perhaps
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:10 PM
Mar 2020

people are not being honest when they give answers to these polls

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. Lots of falsities perpetrated with false definitions. But
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:14 PM
Mar 2020

the biggest one comes from letting people self identify as liberal or conservative when most people today really cannot identify what liberal is and is not. Newt and his sort did a really good job of defining us as something no one would want to be. Only recently are more than a handful of bravehearts starting to identify liberal because of that and because of the discrimination and hostility it often generates.

That said, there is no hard line at all between someone who has a full basket of liberal traits and some farther left who also have some liberal traits but also some not so similar at all. We know some of those voted for Sanders and then for Trump against liberals. And it's likely that some of those resentful white men who'd had too much equality and went to Trump nevertheless consider themselves liberals. And there is such a thing as bigoted liberals, just very weak and small in percentage compared to the right.

Btw, the strongest most defining difference between liberals and conservatives is in attitude toward equality. If Thomas Jefferson's mission statement for our nation speaks for you, you're gonna be liberal.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
32. Unlikely...BTW virus is going to be all we are talking about by Nov, doubt we will
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 12:15 PM
Mar 2020

be able to have an election. I hope so but I dont know.

Putin wants us dead, Rump wants ALL liberals and democrats dead...rough times ahead.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
37. Maybe Sanders supporters
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 01:08 PM
Mar 2020

Fox News has aped the Orange Anus by running a bunch of "Bernie is getting cheated" stories. It wouldn't surprise me if some Sanders voters would stay on the line if they knew they were doing a poll for Fox News.

ooky

(8,923 posts)
43. No liberals I know.
Sat Mar 28, 2020, 03:12 PM
Mar 2020

The liberals I know aren't stupid. The democrat could be a gorilla and they would vote for him to get rid of Trump.

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