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applegrove

(118,774 posts)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:54 PM Mar 2020

A Dozen Sick After Students Return to Liberty University

A Dozen Sick After Students Return to Liberty University

March 29, 2020 at 4:24 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 605 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/03/29/a-dozen-sick-as-students-return-to-liberty-university/

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“As Liberty University’s spring break was drawing to a close this month, Jerry Falwell Jr., its president, spoke with the physician who runs Liberty’s student health service about the rampaging coronavirus,” the New York Times reports.

“So Mr. Falwell — a staunch ally of President Trump and an influential voice in the evangelical world — reopened the university last week, igniting a firestorm, epidemiologically and otherwise. As of Friday, nearly a dozen Liberty students were sick with symptoms that suggest Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus.”

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A Dozen Sick After Students Return to Liberty University (Original Post) applegrove Mar 2020 OP
god's punishment of Liberty U students and staff beachbumbob Mar 2020 #1
Can POS be charged criminally? SheltieLover Mar 2020 #2
Student... Newest Reality Mar 2020 #3
a week? and they are already sick enough to test? getagrip_already Mar 2020 #4
No. Coronavirus is catchy. That is why you make students stay home. If a number applegrove Mar 2020 #5
yes, I get that, but liberty called them all back disregarding all advice... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #6
Crazy times. applegrove Mar 2020 #8
you dont know that BGBD Mar 2020 #10
I don't, but... getagrip_already Mar 2020 #11
not at all BGBD Mar 2020 #13
then why did they present themselves and get tested? getagrip_already Mar 2020 #14
how many went to the beaches instead of Branson? pstokely Mar 2020 #19
The ultimate Liberty, freed from these earthly bonds... Blue Owl Mar 2020 #7
I'm shocked, SHOCKED! Well, not that shocked. Initech Mar 2020 #9
But ... but ... they were told it was a hoax. lpbk2713 Mar 2020 #12
If they come back, he gets the cash flow for living in the dorms. keithbvadu2 Mar 2020 #15
and only undergrads over 21 can live off campus, and they have to approve it pstokely Mar 2020 #20
That should be criminal spanone Mar 2020 #16
Like screaming 'fire' in a crowded theatre.The derivative of the 'Liberty Cluster' (TM) applegrove Mar 2020 #17
if classes are going online, what's the point of returning to dorms other than get their stuff? pstokely Mar 2020 #18

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
3. Student...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

"But, but, you reopened the University. I, cough, thought we would be safe!, cough!"

Falwell: "You are going now to be with Jesus, how safe do you think that is?"

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
4. a week? and they are already sick enough to test?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 06:57 PM
Mar 2020

BS!

They came back knowing they were sick. What is wrong with these people? You aren't feeling well and you go back to school and then go to health services?

Arrogant asshats.....

applegrove

(118,774 posts)
5. No. Coronavirus is catchy. That is why you make students stay home. If a number
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:02 PM
Mar 2020

are showing symptoms another 2.5 to 3.5 have caught it this week at Liberty U and are a symptomatic or will develop symptoms. 2.5 to 3.5 is the number of people the average case infects. Multiply that by 12 (and more because some are carriers now) and you have next week's number. The University should have stayed closed. My dad is in a nursing home and they are feeding people in their rooms at times. Why? No group events. No mixing.

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
6. yes, I get that, but liberty called them all back disregarding all advice...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:12 PM
Mar 2020

And the students who were found to have the disease came back to school with a full fledged case. They had to have symptoms a week ago.

We are just getting the "report" today, which means they reported to health services about 4 or 5 days ago, about a day or two after they arrived back on campus.

They came back sick and they knew it.

And yes, in a dorm environment I'm sure there were hugs and kisses and parties upon their return. In a dorm environment, especial upon return after a long break, it is probably much more than 3.5..... probably 10.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
10. you dont know that
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 07:28 PM
Mar 2020

quite likely the students who brought it back were not showing symptoms when they returned.

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
11. I don't, but...
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 08:12 PM
Mar 2020

neither do you, and the timeline is on my side.

Lets go backwards:

Today (T0): we get the report made public
T0-1 or 2: They have the results, and need to decide on a media release and PR plan, plus parent notification
T0-3: students have piled into health services in enough numbers with symptoms that require them to be tested
t0-5: students start to seek medical help. They are not feeling well and are concerned enough to go to the health center on campus or a local clinic
T0-7: they return to campus. Likely not feeling well but not so badly they need medical help


We are talking about the healthiest segment of our population and one that should blow through an infection with few symptoms. For several of them to present themselves within a week of returning and warrant testing is a sign they were sick when they returned. It is also a sign a large part of the student body is sick.

The data supports that.

getagrip_already

(14,837 posts)
14. then why did they present themselves and get tested?
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 09:45 PM
Mar 2020

You don't do that unless you are very sick. They were sick for several days. They had to be.

Sorry, not buying it.

pstokely

(10,530 posts)
19. how many went to the beaches instead of Branson?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:42 AM
Mar 2020

Branson is probably the only place they are allowed to visit if they actually follow their rules when off campus

keithbvadu2

(36,906 posts)
15. If they come back, he gets the cash flow for living in the dorms.
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:12 PM
Mar 2020

If they come back, he gets the cash flow for living in the dorms.

pstokely

(10,530 posts)
20. and only undergrads over 21 can live off campus, and they have to approve it
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:50 AM
Mar 2020

they do make an exception for married undergrads under 21 or those from Lynchburg
https://www.liberty.edu/residence-life/housing/eligibility/

applegrove

(118,774 posts)
17. Like screaming 'fire' in a crowded theatre.The derivative of the 'Liberty Cluster' (TM)
Sun Mar 29, 2020, 11:40 PM
Mar 2020

will kill many.

pstokely

(10,530 posts)
18. if classes are going online, what's the point of returning to dorms other than get their stuff?
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 02:41 AM
Mar 2020

unless maybe they are safer at there than at their parents place, if you live off campus you probably can't get out of your lease

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