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uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:16 PM Mar 2020

People Have ***NOT*** Fully Digested This Shocking Fact: Part II

***** SOUTH KOREA IS NEARLY BACK TO NORMAL !!! ******

How South Korea Reined In The Outbreak Without Shutting Everything Down: Link

My Part one is here Link

We could all be back to relative "normal" in the US if Trump wasn't concerned about the numbers going up:

We all could be doing this ...



https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/03/29/south-korea-keeps-covid-19-at-bay-without-a-total-lockdown

That life in South Korea has not ground to a complete halt is mostly owing to an early and aggressive response to the covid-19 pandemic. The country’s disease-control authority approved the first test kit for the virus in early February, less than a week after the application was filed. By the time the number of cases began to rise a couple of weeks later, it had the capacity to test thousands of people a day and get results within a few hours from a network of labs across the country.


John Hopkins has South Korea and China infection rate bottomed out - https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

The same for China, they have unrestricted testing and get back results in hours

What is keeping US from doing what it takes to simulate to some great degree what these countries have done?

Red Dons trade war? ... Trumps need to keep the numbers down? racism?

Bottom line: Time to call our representatives and scream loudly for unrestricted nationwide testing if we want to save the country.

We're on the same path as Italy where a lot of people just keep dying from day to day.

A flat curve helps the hospitals where as a bottomed out infection rate like in SK and China would get us back to some level of normal.
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People Have ***NOT*** Fully Digested This Shocking Fact: Part II (Original Post) uponit7771 Mar 2020 OP
But how does donnie make money from that? Worse, it might benefit done dems or even black people! unblock Mar 2020 #1
+1, anyone who takes children from parents seeking help is a dark soul uponit7771 Mar 2020 #4
You Believe He Knows How To Make Money? ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #17
i believe he knows how to grift and cheat and make money wind up in his pockets. unblock Mar 2020 #21
We're Not Agreeing That's Making Money ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #22
not all of his money-making is from sticking others with bad debt unblock Mar 2020 #23
OK, I Buy That ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #24
I needed to go to another source to verify for my own desires, but the numbers and graphs bullwinkle428 Mar 2020 #2
+1, JH shows SK infection rate has bottomed out to 100 a day. They have good tracing uponit7771 Mar 2020 #5
Skorea and US got first case on essentially the same day. Virus does not respond to PR campaigns Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #3
once the death count goes up radically, the test kits will miraculously appear 0rganism Mar 2020 #6
+1, good point ... this is something that dark soul would do uponit7771 Mar 2020 #7
K&R Blue Owl Mar 2020 #8
Kick for Notice uponit7771 Mar 2020 #9
Kick for Notice uponit7771 Mar 2020 #10
It really deserves a national kick! Hermit-The-Prog Mar 2020 #11
⭐️⭐️K&R⭐️⭐️ spanone Mar 2020 #12
thx ! uponit7771 Mar 2020 #15
👍🏼 spanone Mar 2020 #16
SK & China have mandatory tracking via cellphones mathematic Mar 2020 #13
First we have to have testing the tracing doesn't have to be via cell phone ... uponit7771 Mar 2020 #14
Couldn't One Put It In Airplane Mode? ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #18
The infected are checking in daily in NK. I understand people can screw with it but for the most uponit7771 Mar 2020 #19
Good Point ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #20
Kicking for presser notice uponit7771 Mar 2020 #25
K&R SheltieLover Mar 2020 #26
BIG KICK! Newest Reality Mar 2020 #27

unblock

(52,286 posts)
1. But how does donnie make money from that? Worse, it might benefit done dems or even black people!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020

That's why.

Because we have a horribly evil man in charge.

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
17. You Believe He Knows How To Make Money?
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:07 PM
Mar 2020

Then why all the debt. A D/E of 4 or more shows guts, not skills.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
21. i believe he knows how to grift and cheat and make money wind up in his pockets.
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:53 PM
Mar 2020

and all the while, his businesses go bankrupt, suppliers and customers and lenders and constituents get burned, whatever. he doesn't care.

all he cares about is that he gets his cut.

he loves debt because it's a freeroll. he wins if it makes money, lenders lose if it doesn't.


ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
22. We're Not Agreeing That's Making Money
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:59 PM
Mar 2020

It's merely floating debt to sustain a lavish lifestyle.
Probably just defining "make money" in different ways.

unblock

(52,286 posts)
23. not all of his money-making is from sticking others with bad debt
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:03 PM
Mar 2020

borrowing in bad faith is certainly part of his so-called genius, but in this case i'm just thinking kickbacks and such. no debt involved.

he directs public funds and resources in a way that makes private profit for someone else, that someone else gives donnie a cut one way or another.

consider his latest so-called covid19 briefing that was more like an infomercial. think those companies and ceos aren't funneling money to donnie in exchange, one way or another?

ProfessorGAC

(65,134 posts)
24. OK, I Buy That
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 05:23 PM
Mar 2020

But, he'd have been richer by handing over his daddy's "loans" & inheritance to a pro, and still live like an emperor for 48 years.
All the grifting, IMO, is to cover debt load.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
2. I needed to go to another source to verify for my own desires, but the numbers and graphs
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:29 PM
Mar 2020

really do seem to confirm this! Check out in particular, the daily new cases and the outcome of cases graphs.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/south-korea/

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
5. +1, JH shows SK infection rate has bottomed out to 100 a day. They have good tracing
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:45 PM
Mar 2020

... via cell phones and they're quarantining the non hospitalized in hotels.

Something we can do here in the US

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,027 posts)
3. Skorea and US got first case on essentially the same day. Virus does not respond to PR campaigns
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:43 PM
Mar 2020

US hit 100 cases March 2 and SKorea hit it Feb 20, because they found more by doing more testing.

By testing aggressively EARLY, SKorea was able to trace and isolate cases when it was still possible to clamp down on the infection.

tRump mounted a PR campaign against the virus. The virus does not respond to PR campaigns.

0rganism

(23,962 posts)
6. once the death count goes up radically, the test kits will miraculously appear
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
Mar 2020

suppress testing early on to keep the infection numbers low

then

test everyone like crazy once the dying starts to keep the mortality rate low

a completely PR-based solution

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,390 posts)
11. It really deserves a national kick!
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 10:53 PM
Mar 2020

Supporting it ...

animated bar graphs depicting countries: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213194279

Interview with Leading COVID-19 Expert From South Korea: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213200545

graphs and charts and discussion of outcomes based on types of response to the virus: The Hammer and the Dance

mathematic

(1,439 posts)
13. SK & China have mandatory tracking via cellphones
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:04 PM
Mar 2020

Say what you want about their testing but tracking individual people by their cellphones would never fly in a western liberal democracy.

South Korea published infected people's location history. China, naturally, simply notified the police if you left quarantine.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
14. First we have to have testing the tracing doesn't have to be via cell phone ...
Mon Mar 30, 2020, 11:10 PM
Mar 2020

... but I think a lot of people who test positive would not mind the cell phone tracing.

I thought people here would reject the stay at home orders but was wrong ... people want to get back to normal in 3 - 6 months.

Right now we're no where near SK, we'll see after June what people will put up with

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
19. The infected are checking in daily in NK. I understand people can screw with it but for the most
Tue Mar 31, 2020, 04:36 PM
Mar 2020

... part like people in the US they're going to cooperate.

We can do such here with even 80% cooperation we could get it done

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