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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI am not holding my breath but I am waiting
for one fucking ReTHUG to condemn Don the Con and his goons for the mess that has led to this deadly crisis.
To date over 5,000 Americans are dead including a six week old baby in Connecticut.
And now we see that 6.6 million Americans filed for unemployment benefits.
And not one elected ReTHUG has condemned this madness. Of course MoscowMitch and his goons rejectd the funds offered by Chris Murphy ages ago.
People should go to prison for this.
MyOwnPeace
(16,928 posts)they only have polls and a fear of retribution from IQ45 if they sway off of "the line."
cornball 24
(1,478 posts)and curry favor with this monster. It is treasonous!
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)They do not care one wit whether we know that now or not, it does not matter. They have the power and we, the people are mere cogs in their machine. The masses are kept compliant enough through religion, alcohol and sports among other banalities that they simply refuse to see the truth or if they do see the truth, their numbers are to small and fragmented to be of concern. The repugs can lie and manipulate (spin) the message all they want and the media just spits it out ad nauseam until the lie becomes the truth.
Trump is merely the face of the monster. They curry favor with the beast with many heads. Families of wealth and power that whisper in their ears and secretly control Trumps deconstructionist agenda.
We have to win 2020, I fear America will not survive 4 more years of deconstruction.
This is just my opinion, my apologies for being down today...
Stay well.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Virus for us. Why are they here? Do not trust them.
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)I suspect that nothing of value was really sent, I could be wrong.
So long as proper disinfection techniques are employed, any virus on surfaces can be destroyed easily. This virus is a wimp really as simple soap and water destroys it quickly.
Stay well.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I have nothing but contempt for each and every person who has perpetuated the lies.
but no one voted for their representation - fuck the fucking ReTHUGs (and they are thugs)
could be facing a lawsuit because they are playing down this deadly virus to their ignorant viewers.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)malaise
(269,063 posts)Wow - thanks
a day or 2 ago... hard to keep up
malaise
(269,063 posts)I want to kick it
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)malaise
(269,063 posts)Everyone should watch that although he sure stuck around foe a long time
BComplex
(8,054 posts)The party should be destroyed for all it has done, but this guy knows how to resurrect the dead when it comes to putting on a good face.
llmart
(15,540 posts)The ending is thought provoking when he states that the Republican Party is not going to fundamentally change until they start losing.
Time for the rest of us to make that happen on a huge scale in November.
malaise
(269,063 posts)and I want to see non-stop investigations ending in prison sentences
That would be a dream come true for me. I want to see some justice for once.
usaf-vet
(6,189 posts)tblue37
(65,409 posts)CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Here's a commentary of his on WaPo. It's probably behind a paywall which is too bad. It should go viral.
Republicans like me built this moment. Then we looked the other way.
By Stuart Stevens
March 18, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/03/18/elections-have-consequences-slow-response-virus-is-one-them/
snip...
Long before Trump, the Republican Party adopted as a key article of faith that more government was bad. We worked overtime to squeeze it and shrink it, to drown it in the bathtub, as anti-tax activist Grover Norquist liked to say. But somewhere along the way, it became, all government is bad. Now we are in a crisis that can be solved only by massive government intervention. Thats awkward.
Next, somehow, the party of idealistic Teddy Roosevelt, pragmatic Bob Dole and heroic John McCain became anti-intellectual, by which I mean, almost reflexively opposed to knowledge and expertise. We began to distrust the experts and put faith in, well, quackery. It was 2013 when former Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal said the Republican Party must stop being the stupid party. By 2016, the party had embraced as its nominee a reality-TV host who later suggested that perhaps the noise from windmills causes cancer.
The Republican Party has gone from admiring William F. Buckley Jr., an Ivy League intellectual, to viewing higher education as a left-wing conspiracy to indoctrinate the young. In retribution, we started defunding education. Never mind that Republican leaders are among the most highly educated on the planet; its just that they now feel compelled to embrace ignorance as a cost of doing business. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, as an example, denounces coastal elites while holding degrees from Princeton University and Harvard Law School and having served as a Supreme Court clerk.
The GOPs relationship with science has resembled some kind of Frankenstein experiment: Lets see what happens when we play with the chemistry set! Conservatives have spent years trying to cut funds for basic science and research, lamenting government seed money for nearly every budding technology and then hoping for the best. In the weeks ahead, its not some fiery, anti-Washington populist with an XM radio gig who is going to save folks lives; it is more likely to be someone who has been studying this stuff for decades, almost certainly at some point with federal help or outright patronage.
The entire commentary is excellent. I think I'll see if I can get his book through the library. Electronically, of course!
Here's an excellent NYT opinion piece by Thomas B. Edsall, dated March 18, 2020 that mentions Stevens. It's first of the month & they give a few free articles.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/opinion/trump-republicans-racism.html
He's shining a light on the fact that Trump didn't come about in a vacuum.
I agree - he is a product of the neo-liberal bullshit, the assault on reason, the anti-science lunacy and the unbridled racism associated with ReTHUGs.
Mister Ed
(5,940 posts)Right now, though, those governors are in a tough spot. If they don't kiss the ring, their people die. Of course, maybe their people die anyway.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)that will sterilize N95 masks so they can safely be used 20 times - machines that serve several states.
Had DeWine (Ohio) given in to the temptation to criticize Trump, that likely would not have happened - remember his threats to not take the calls of people who are not being nice to him? It was a call to Trump that unlocked the FDA approval for Battelle to move forward with its experimental cleaning devices.
It is crystal clear from how he has handled COVID 19 in Ohio that he disagrees with Trump. He's not kissing Trump's ring, by any stretch of the imagination, but he is declining near-daily invitations to trash Trump. I agree with that decision on his part - doing so has not only benefitted Ohio, but also surrounding states with whom we are coordinating some hospital care, and farther flung states who have the benefit of Battelle's N95 sterilizing machines.
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/battelle-sterilizes-first-3500-n95-masks-ramping-up-efforts
Right now is not the time to do things that are emotionally satisfying, but have the potential to cost lives.
I think it is criminal that we have to play this game. No one who has the emotional IQ of a 2 year old should be allowed to serve as president. But given the reality that we do, we need to be smart about what battles we pick.
FM123
(10,053 posts)On Feb 5 they could have removed him from office.
They knew folks around the world were getting sick and it was on its way to the U.S. and they sure as hell knew that trump was incompetent and would get us killed if it turned into a pandemic. And it did, and he continues to get us killed every day, even a six week old baby. Look at your bloody hands GOP!
MyOwnPeace
(16,928 posts)running to their stock brokers and covering their own IRA's to worry about the "little people."
FM123
(10,053 posts)CrispyQ
(36,478 posts)Where are the Bloomberg ads pointing this out? They should be running non-stop in every state where GOP senators are up for re-election and double for McConnell.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Every one of those GOP senators during the impeachment trial KNEW how incompetent he was and still voted to keep him in office AND with the knowledge that a killer virus was heading our way.
karin_sj
(810 posts)This is the perfect time to blanket the airwaves with ads that tell the truth about the results of the foot dragging and disinformation by Don the Con and his minions. Bloomberg spent a ton of money on his quixotic quest for the presidency and now the country (and his hometown) NEED him to use his money to help America. Think of how much protective gear and ventilators he could have purchased with the money he spent on his failed campaign. Where has he been lately, anyway? Was he all talk?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wheres-mike-bloomberg-billionaire-bails-after-vanity-presidential-run-ends
bdamomma
(63,877 posts)where is his ass? Maybe in one of his mansions. Lying low possibly in Bermuda.
Hugin
(33,164 posts)Is the complicity of every single Republican.
There hasn't been one single Republican anywhere who has broken ranks and stood up for even their own deranged ideals without deference to Pumpkin Spice Pol Pot.
The only exception has been Romney with his (he knew he was safe to make) Impeachment vote.
I used to agonize over this situation until I saw a demographic breakdown of all of the Republican politicos and I realized... THEY.ARE.ALL.JUST.LIKE.TRUMP! Since they hate everyone who isn't like them and Trump hates everyone who isn't him. Well, their Venn diagrams almost totally merge.
So, I don't wonder about that anymore. We must remove all of them from office. VOTE!
That's a start although he is not an elected rep.
Stuart G
(38,436 posts)No one knows who or when, but he/she will step forward..(in my opinion) and oppose Trump's nomination for another term as President. Timing is the key. When that person is ready and feels the right time has arrived, then that person will step forward and not only condemn, but oppose Trump's ReTHUG nomination
...No one believes this can happen, but most did not believe our current situation could ever be real. Idiot/ fool in charge of the U.S.A., and major crisis kills thousands, and idiot/fool does close to nothing but open up his mount and lie, lie, and more lies.
...That RETHUG will be taking his/her life in danger, but that RETHUG will come forward. When? Soon..That is what I believe.
Phoenix61
(17,006 posts)the guillotine. Anyone notice how many Repubs are calling for unity? Wanting non-partisan solutions? Reminds me of a teenager who sets out to prove to his parents hes an adult and ends up needing their help to get out of the mess he created. We have got to stop being the enabling parents.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)Condemning him will not make his response any better for anyone. When his doesn't get his daily allotment of praise, he slinks off to his golf course for a good sulk. It is even worse when he is actively criticized - and he takes out his anger on both the person who criticized him AND on the people that person serves.
In this crisis, that means people die when Trump lashes out.
So while it would be emotionally satisfying, it would lead to a net loss in lives.
If I were in their shoes, I would hold my criticizm until my constituent's lives no longer depended on being in the good graces of his royal orangness. Then once it was over, I'd blast him with both barrels.
malaise
(269,063 posts)like today. He needs a loud and clear - not one more minute of your bullshit divisiveness.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)Honestly - do you really believe that has even a 1 in 1,000,000 chance of any positive outcome?
Didn't think so. Given that it won't work (and will likely make matteers worse), isn't it better to do as DeWine did - and use his ability to call Trump to save lives not only in Ohio, but across the country?
"Needless to say, I was quite angry. I picked up the phone and called President Trump," DeWine said.
Two of these machines are being used in Ohio. Battelle has also developed or shipped machines to COVID-19 hotspots like Seattle, New York City and Washington D.C
https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/battelle-sterilizes-first-3500-n95-masks-ramping-up-efforts
malaise
(269,063 posts)It's still piecemeal. There is no structured system with the sort of logistical leadership displayed by someone like a General Russell Honore after the Katrina mess.
https://www.msnbc.com/craig-melvin/watch/lt-gen-general-russel-honore-the-focus-needs-to-be-on-saving-lives-81387589710
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)Trump is a horrible, ineffective, president with the temperament of a 2 year old. But we are stuck with him.
Given that we are stuck with him - for now - we need to not intentionally anger the 2 year old - because we cannot afford the diversion of cleaning up after his tantrum - and lives are at stake.
malaise
(269,063 posts)That is cleaning up after his tantrum on steroids. That horse done bolt.
murielm99
(30,745 posts)used the analogy of that Billy Mumy Twilight Zone episode "It's a Good Life."
Trump does not have the power to change things and destroy things with his mind. He has no mind. He uses the people around him to do that. But everyone quakes in fear because the outcome is the same.
Ms. Toad
(34,076 posts)DeWine certainly isn't. https://abc6onyourside.com/news/local/bbc-praises-gov-dewines-leadership-during-coronavirus-pandemic
It's just that this is the time to treat him as a useful idiot on the rare occasion when he is a useful idiot(getting the cruise ship docked, getting the FDA off the dime on approval of a new mask sterilization technique), but otherwise ignore him.
Choosing this moment to call him out him would mean DeSantis would still be blocking ships with sick and dead passengers from coming into port, and we would still not have approval for the mask cleansing process that is being used in Seattle, Washington DC, Ohio (and at least one other place).
empedocles
(15,751 posts)some 'cons will expeditiously 'speak out'.
maryellen99
(3,789 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)By staying silent from what trump has done, and is doing makes them complicit in people needlessly dying from this virus.they've also prevented a lot more getting directly to the people making us fall into a depression soon. This will happen as long as trump and Moscow Mitch are involved., and get their way .the stimulus will fail unless a lot more gets money directly to the people. Their trickle down has never worked , they knew that was a lie all along.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)I think of him as -45
The worst president ever and the worst type of human being
Cozmo
(1,402 posts)How else is he gonna get out of this alive?
ancianita
(36,098 posts)they wouldn't know a moral human being if they saw one. Pretty much the way corporations work, too.
calimary
(81,323 posts)if such a spectacularly incompetent and deceitful President were a Democrat.
malaise
(269,063 posts)if such a spectacularly incompetent murderous and deceitful President were a Democrat.
calimary
(81,323 posts)And no exaggeration, either. People WILL DIE because this deceitful vainglorious putz sat on his ass and refused to recognize a gravely menacing and rapidly growing threat when it was staring him in the face. His default position on anything is always "it's a hoax." FUCKER. This ain't no hoax, you fucking jackass!
I'm with Steve Rattner, the former Treasury Department official, who was interviewed earlier today, and was asked what he'd ask trump in view of all this. He said "I'd ask him to resign." Rattner called trump "the worst failed leader our country's ever seen." Amen, sir.
malaise
(269,063 posts)and that barely touches the surface
BeckyDem
(8,361 posts)Consider how much a percentage of them adhere to an ideology versus their humanity.
It just blows my mind how they think and then of course what our system allows them to buy.
Charles Koch Network Pushed $1 Billion Cut to CDC, Now Attacks Shelter-in-Place Policies for Harming Business
https://theintercept.com/2020/03/26/americans-for-prosperity-cdc-coronavirus/
dsharp88
(487 posts)They simply follow the twisted rantings of their leader.
pandr32
(11,588 posts)flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)FINALLY it's getting real for them, and "owning the libs" doesn't seem worth dying over. Again, just what I'm hearing, but I'm hearing it a lot.
If that's happening, it's just a matter of time before their elected officials start getting the message.
TruckFump
(5,812 posts)Yep, everything you said, times 1,000.
C Moon
(12,213 posts)But then again, probably not.
SWBTATTReg
(22,143 posts)Scumbags. I hope everyone of them pays for not doing their duty and protecting this country, and aiding and abetting the enemy, DJTrump.
seta1950
(932 posts)They need to go to prison for this the whole lot of them
Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)people should go to prison.
malaise
(269,063 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,743 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,835 posts)one of those domino videos. Where they are stacked to fall over, spread out over an entire gymnasium. The ones that go multi directions at the same time, then split and go off in a lot of other directions.
If that first one in Republican's cabal ever topples, it will be exactly that. With the dominos falling down in all directions, and seemingly going on forever and ever. It is the perfect visual of just how corrupt, deep and far reaching, the Republican party has become.
People say there will be a book written about this. BOOK? It will be volumes, and look like the Encyclopedia Britanica to the 10th power.
That first domino is not Trump. It is regaining the majority in the Senate, taking it away from the Republican Party. Trump's ENTIRE power rests with them and nothing else.
The Dems should be going after every Senate Republican up for re-election. Hammering them and Mitchie 24/7 for the next 6-7 months.
RVN VET71
(2,692 posts)The Republicans in the House and Senate are either absolutely and blindly loyal to the Orange Anus or have convinced themselves that, as long as their kisses to his butt do not linger there, they are actually protesting by not overtly praising. Of course this is a delusion, but it allows the spineless ones to sleep at night. And, of course, true believers like Louie Gohmert sleep with their lips attached, like lampreys, to the Buttocks in Chief.
McConnell? Nothing but a smirking lamprey, so to speak.
TomSlick
(11,100 posts)Breath - breath.
Kablooie
(18,634 posts)Jim Jones redux.
bdamomma
(63,877 posts)Americans, this is a regime that is going to keep on killing. Hopefully those who support this POS, will feel the wrath they have unleashed on innocent people.
We need to voice this out everyday.
They totally have disdain for us.
spanone
(135,844 posts)Blue Owl
(50,427 posts)n/t
soldierant
(6,890 posts)The woman whose husband died from drinking aquarium clean was pretty vocal. And brutal.
malaise
(269,063 posts)duforsure
(11,885 posts)With trump talking every day people are getting fed up with trump and the gop. The american people are learning trump and the gop are stiffing them now, and dragging their feet on everything . trump is turning more states blue from his talking and lying daily, and the gop saying and doing nothing to him just makes more people run from them after this disaster trump caused to be worse. trump is destroying any chances he had.
bucolic_frolic
(43,191 posts)I planned for 1-2 months of fallout, but now 3-4 months, and that's just to flatten the curve. The big investment banks and forecasting firms are forecasting GDP reductions in the range of 10-30%. I do believe many firms, mostly small but some mid-size and even large, will not reopen. Workers will learn to live on less and prioritize spending for health, financial stability, durability. Company head counts will shrink, both total and on-site. This is an economic and demographic shakeup as large as WWII, and then some. Families will be reduced in size, some without heads of households or breadwinners. And we have a bunch of boobs in Federal agencies who have no idea what to do or think we should use religious institutions as primary social agencies.
People, you're on your own. YOYO. Plan accordingly. Adjust your life and livelihood to fit your situation. You know it better than any crony capitalist who's in it for himself.