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babylonsister

(171,070 posts) Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:49 PM Apr 2020

Navy expected to relieve captain who raised alarm about COVID-19 outbreak on aircraft carrier

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/navy-expected-relieve-captain-who-raised-alarm-about-covid-19-n1175351?fbclid=IwAR2-CDnz3auRfLq7giDlVMoYgagbgvHENC2yn2LYR7_-bJF9EJ0H6hzKey0

Navy expected to relieve captain who raised alarm about COVID-19 outbreak on aircraft carrier
The United States Navy is expected to relieve the captain who sounded the alarm about an outbreak of COVID-19 aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt.

April 2, 2020, 4:23 PM EDT / Updated April 2, 2020, 4:31 PM EDT
By Courtney Kube

The Navy is expected to announce it has relieved the captain who sounded the alarm about an outbreak of COVID-19 aboard the USS Theodore Roosevelt, according to two U.S. officials.

Capt. Brett Crozier, who commands the Roosevelt, an aircraft carrier with a crew of nearly 5,000, will be relieved of his command, but keep his rank and remain in the Navy.

Crozier raised the alarm earlier this week that sailors on the ship need to be quarantined to stop the spread of the virus. His plea for assistance quickly made headlines.

Crozier sent a letter to the Navy on Monday begging for help addressing the coronavirus outbreak aboard his ship, which was forced to dock in Guam last week. The ship leadership began testing everyone on board. By Wednesday, there were 93 positive test results and more than 1,000 people had departed the ship into isolation on Guam. In total, 2,700 people are expected to disembark the ship this week, with a smaller crew remaining to maintain the ship.

The move is expected to be announced in a briefing by Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly Thursday evening. The official reason for Crozier's relief of duty is a loss of trust and confidence, according to the officials who spoke to NBC News.

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Navy expected to relieve captain who raised alarm about COVID-19 outbreak on aircraft carrier (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2020 OP

Uh huh. No surprises there. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2020 #1

Whistleblowers are not consistently given protection, we fail them too often. BeckyDem Apr 2020 #2

What a shitty development. COLGATE4 Apr 2020 #3

Exactly. Punished for trying to save his crew. nt babylonsister Apr 2020 #4

This move has the Trump stench all over it. nt COLGATE4 Apr 2020 #5

It will be interesting to see if any Republicans have a problem with this Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #8

I know which answer I'd put my money on. COLGATE4 Apr 2020 #11

Me too Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2020 #12

Is there any doubt Trump is behind this move? Kingofalldems Apr 2020 #6

None. SammyWinstonJack Apr 2020 #15

Trump has certainly turned us into a ShitHole Nation spanone Apr 2020 #7

Dump's military: fleur-de-lisa Apr 2020 #9

Fucking evil malaise Apr 2020 #10

A loss of trust and confidence. Cartoonist Apr 2020 #13

Called this one yesterday. Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #14

Any reason to think he'd be back once 45 is out of office? defacto7 Apr 2020 #17

Nope Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #20

Maybe you could explain why embarrassment hold so much weight. defacto7 Apr 2020 #21

It seems trivial to you and me Sherman A1 Apr 2020 #22

i think he knew quite well that he risked his job barbtries Apr 2020 #16

The Captain should be re-instated and promoted. kentuck Apr 2020 #18

I seem to recall a warning ThoughtCriminal Apr 2020 #19

GreenPartyVoter

(72,378 posts)

1. Uh huh. No surprises there.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:50 PM

Apr 2020

BeckyDem

(8,361 posts)

2. Whistleblowers are not consistently given protection, we fail them too often.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:52 PM

Apr 2020

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)

3. What a shitty development.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:52 PM

Apr 2020

A career Naval officer of obviously great talent (you don't get to command a 4,800 man carrier if you're mediocre) is essentially losing his career because he sought to protect his sailors. Someone in Congress should raise holy hell about this Trumpian decision.

babylonsister

(171,070 posts)

4. Exactly. Punished for trying to save his crew. nt

Reply to COLGATE4 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 04:59 PM

Apr 2020

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)

5. This move has the Trump stench all over it. nt

Reply to babylonsister (Reply #4)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:00 PM

Apr 2020

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)

8. It will be interesting to see if any Republicans have a problem with this

Reply to COLGATE4 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:03 PM

Apr 2020

since they're usually the first ones to politicize the military. Or will their undying devotion to Trump and fear of a mean tweet make them think twice?

COLGATE4

(14,732 posts)

11. I know which answer I'd put my money on.

Reply to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:06 PM

Apr 2020

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,414 posts)

12. Me too

Reply to COLGATE4 (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:14 PM

Apr 2020

Unfortunately

Kingofalldems

(38,458 posts)

6. Is there any doubt Trump is behind this move?

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:00 PM

Apr 2020

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)

15. None.

Reply to Kingofalldems (Reply #6)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:35 PM

Apr 2020

spanone

(135,844 posts)

7. Trump has certainly turned us into a ShitHole Nation

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:01 PM

Apr 2020

fleur-de-lisa

(14,627 posts)

9. Dump's military:

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:04 PM

Apr 2020

Charlotte Clymer 🏳️?🌈 ✔ @cmclymer

Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher was pardoned and reinstated by Trump despite being found guilty of war crimes by a jury of his peers. U.S. Navy Captain Brett Crozier was removed from his command for sounding the alarm on COVID danger to sailors under his authority. Trump's military.

Link to tweet

malaise

(269,054 posts)

10. Fucking evil

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:05 PM

Apr 2020

He saved his sailors

Cartoonist

(7,317 posts)

13. A loss of trust and confidence.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:18 PM

Apr 2020

Can't we remove Trump for that?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

14. Called this one yesterday.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:33 PM

Apr 2020

His career is over. He will be assigned as "director of paperclips" somewhere until he decides to retire.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)

17. Any reason to think he'd be back once 45 is out of office?

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:44 PM

Apr 2020

I think a lot of dismissed individuals across the whole government landscape will be back in the service of the US once he's put out of our misery.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

20. Nope

Reply to defacto7 (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:21 PM

Apr 2020

His leaked letter embarrassed the Navy and his Superiors, he is good man and his naval career is absolute toast.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)

21. Maybe you could explain why embarrassment hold so much weight.

Reply to Sherman A1 (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:27 PM

Apr 2020

especially when it's a life and death call. It seems so trivial to me.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)

22. It seems trivial to you and me

Reply to defacto7 (Reply #21)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:35 PM

Apr 2020

to the senior officers in the chain of command and the institution it does not as is obvious from him being relieved of his command. Think of it as CYA or whatever, but I don't see this Captain ever doing more than waiting out his time to retirement inventorying paper clips. He made the Navy look bad and he is done.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)

16. i think he knew quite well that he risked his job

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:37 PM

Apr 2020

when he sent the letter, and my guess is he will still sleep better because he saved sailors' lives. it sucks but it could have sucked so much worse.

just suddenly wondering, what if he hadn't sent the letter, and a sailor or 2 died on that ship? I don't think they'd be awarding him medals. sort of a catch 22 for him, and he chose the route that took care of his people. nothing but respect for him.

kentuck

(111,103 posts)

18. The Captain should be re-instated and promoted.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 05:51 PM

Apr 2020

He did not keep it silent.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)

19. I seem to recall a warning

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Apr 2, 2020, 06:12 PM

Apr 2020

That everything from commanders related to COVID had to be cleared with the Whitehouse.

I'm sure they wanted to keep this hidden from the rest of us.

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