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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLAT: "Op-Ed: COVID-19 shows that what we're doing to animals is killing us, too"
Pathogens have leaped from animals to humans for eons, but the pace of this spillover has increased rapidly over the last century. As 7.8 billion people on this planet radically alter ecosystems and raise, capture and trade animals at an unprecedented scale, the road from animal microbe to human pathogen has turned into a highway, as the journalist Sonia Shah has written.
The growing body of scientific research is clear: Diseases like COVID-19 are an expected consequence of how were choosing to treat animals and their habitats.
By changing the nature and frequency of human-animal interactions, our actions through the wildlife trade, deforestation, land conversion, industrial animal farming, the burning of fossil fuels, and more propel the emergence and transmission of novel and known human infectious diseases.
https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-04-02/coronavirus-pandemics-animals-habitat-ecology
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)cyclonefence
(4,483 posts)relayerbob
(6,555 posts)superpatriotman
(6,252 posts)Dios Mio
(429 posts)Very interesting.
Igel
(35,359 posts)I just think it's wrong.
Going for bushmeat and frequently wet markets are the same thing as what we used to have in the US, with a lot of folks in the hinterland killing and eating squirrel and possum and armadillo. I'm sure there's an equivalent in South America, and Native Americans didn't have just 2-4 critters that they ate and nothing else.
Why zoonotic diseases didn't infect some of those people has to be a mystery.
Or perhaps they *did* infect those consumers of divers critters. However, with fewer people there were fewer jumps from critter to human. Isolation limited their spread--you may infect those in your neck of the woods, but you didn't get out of there very often. Even now there are diseases that aren't widespread--and some that have been kicking around for a while in backwaters that suddenly blossom.
There are a variety of rhinoviruses, coronavirses, and strains of influenza. It's not like they've been around for 100,000 years. They came from someplace.
Chikungunya was described in the 1950s, but it's unlikely it was discovered the year it made the jump.
HIV dates to the 1920s. Think about it--it was 60 years before it was noticed. Because it jumped from simians and circulated locally. I'm sure it got out from time to time, but didn't spread.
I'd accept that the frequency has increased. But a lot of diseases that jumped a while back are new-to-us. The "what we're doing to animals" is mostly a reversion to a prior wish: Here's yet another example that can be used to show how bad we are.
Except how bad we are now is how bad we've been since forever, and you wind up with people arguing for indigenous customs and practices while arguing that this is a modern practice.
Kali
(55,021 posts)what's up with that?
byronius
(7,401 posts)Coherent. Way to be.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)Easy peasy.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)even if every person on the world went vegetarian.
You can of course argue that it would slow the number of such leaps down due to a more restricted chance of it happening but it will not entirely prevent it.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)After all consider the fact that even if we all went vegetarian we still have to grow the food and that takes a lot of land and water which means we still will come into contact with other species.
The only way truly to avoid contact with other species would be to leave the planet.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)a virus leaping from an animal to human and creating another pandemic can happen anywhere in the world.
Coventina
(27,172 posts)ansible
(1,718 posts)Coventina
(27,172 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)I suspect that humane farming, rather than keeping live animals in overcrowded conditions, peeing and pooping on each other and transmitting respiratory droplets and body fluids like they did in the Wuhan wet market, would probably suffice.
It should be the minimum standard of care for animals that are going to be killed and eaten. Its literally the least that humans should do.
cstanleytech
(26,319 posts)of birds not to mention the various burrowing and foraging animals.
Unless of course you did all your crops within an enclosed environment which might be problematic due to a large amount of materials you would need to build that many enclosures.