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babylonsister

(171,092 posts) Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:47 PM Apr 2020

Veterans Denounce 'Unforgivable' Decision to Remove U.S. Navy Captain Brett Crozier...

Veterans Denounce 'Unforgivable' Decision to Remove U.S. Navy Captain Brett Crozier, Who Asked for Help With Ship's COVID-19 Outbreak
By Ewan Palmer On 4/3/20 at 5:59 AM EDT

Veterans have spoken out against the decision to relieve the captain of the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt after he sent a letter to the Navy pleading for help after his ship was stricken with the coronavirus.

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"I understand the 'trust & confidence' argument. It's sacrosanct in the Navy," John Kirby, a retired rear admiral who served as the State Department's head spokesman from 2015 to 2017, wrote on Twitter.

"But based on justification put forth by acting SECNAV for why he lost trust & confidence in the TR CO, hard to see it as anything other than an over-reaction & unwarranted at a vital time for the ship."

Malcolm Nance, former Navy senior chief petty officer, accused officials of "abject stupidity" for relieving Crozier.

"You had better drop your anchors on this one. This 'sailors first' admiral may be Secretary of the Navy next Jan. He should be because he cares more about my beloved Navy than you do."

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New Jersey Congressman Andy Kim issued a statement calling for the immediate reinstatement of Crozier, calling the decision "shameful."

"Our servicemen and women sign up and put themselves in harm's way for the defense of our country, they shouldn't be put in harm's way because of indecision by leadership at the Pentagon to address a crisis that endangered thousands who wear the uniform," Kim said. "Dismissing him sends a dangerous message to our leaders across the military."

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Veterans Denounce 'Unforgivable' Decision to Remove U.S. Navy Captain Brett Crozier... (Original Post) babylonsister Apr 2020 OP

But don't they know it's all about optics, ratings, and pretending you're #1 on Facebook? Blue Owl Apr 2020 #1

He will be Biden's secretary of the navy. roamer65 Apr 2020 #2

All I read is "Navy" removed him. Who exactly is the "Navy"? Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #3

This guy. Actin Secretary of the Navy Thomas B Modly Maraya1969 Apr 2020 #4

Since we have all these actors... mwooldri Apr 2020 #11

Don the Con and his goons are history malaise Apr 2020 #5

If the military turns on him... 2naSalit Apr 2020 #6

They probably consider him a rogue captain. DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #7

If he won't leave in January, his military won't help him, I think. rickyhall Apr 2020 #8

+1 MontanaMama Apr 2020 #12

I can only imagine. 2naSalit Apr 2020 #17

Typical move by the bone spurs draft dodger musclecar6 Apr 2020 #9

Trump removed Captain Crozier. Navy brass followed orders. NoMoreRepugs Apr 2020 #10

This is one action that EVERY reporter needs to stay focused on and hold tRUMP and his admin SayItLoud Apr 2020 #13

trump pardoned and feted a Naval WAR CRIMINAL a few weeks ago. Paladin Apr 2020 #14

tRump should be kicked in the balls by one of those in the military around him. ffr Apr 2020 #15

Rec. cwydro Apr 2020 #16

Blue Owl

(50,506 posts)

1. But don't they know it's all about optics, ratings, and pretending you're #1 on Facebook?

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:52 PM

Apr 2020

roamer65

(36,747 posts)

2. He will be Biden's secretary of the navy.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 01:55 PM

Apr 2020

Maraya1969

(22,500 posts)

3. All I read is "Navy" removed him. Who exactly is the "Navy"?

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:01 PM

Apr 2020

Maraya1969

(22,500 posts)

4. This guy. Actin Secretary of the Navy Thomas B Modly

Reply to Maraya1969 (Reply #3)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:07 PM

Apr 2020

He is a businessman!

Thomas Modly

Acting United States Secretary of the Navy
Incumbent
Assumed office
November 24, 2019
President Donald Trump

President Donald Trump
Preceded by Richard V. Spencer
Succeeded by Richard V. Spencer
United States Under Secretary of the Navy
Incumbent
Assumed office
December 4, 2017

Education United States Naval Academy (BS)
Georgetown University (MA)
Harvard University (MBA)
Military service
Allegiance United States
Branch/service United States Navy

Thomas B. Modly is an American businessman and government official who has served as Acting United States Secretary of the Navy since November 24, 2019.

Modly, who was confirmed as the United States Under Secretary of the Navy on December 4, 2017, performed the duties of the Secretary of the Navy while Richard V. Spencer was Acting Secretary of Defense and Acting Deputy Secretary of Defense from July 15, 2019, to July 31, 2019.[1]

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)

11. Since we have all these actors...

Reply to Maraya1969 (Reply #4)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:01 PM

Apr 2020

... Captain Crozier should just be "acting fired captain".

malaise

(269,174 posts)

5. Don the Con and his goons are history

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:10 PM

Apr 2020

It's over - we're just waiting for the bell to ring

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)

6. If the military turns on him...

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 02:13 PM

Apr 2020

It will be interesting to see what they do about him.

DENVERPOPS

(8,845 posts)

7. They probably consider him a rogue captain.

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:26 PM

Apr 2020

When in reality, they, (and the entire rest of the Military)should be doing something about the Rogue President and his cabal

rickyhall

(4,889 posts)

8. If he won't leave in January, his military won't help him, I think.

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:31 PM

Apr 2020

Can't pull a Coup without the military

MontanaMama

(23,337 posts)

12. +1

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:14 PM

Apr 2020

I'll bet the conversations among top brass are interesting these days.

2naSalit

(86,794 posts)

17. I can only imagine.

Reply to MontanaMama (Reply #12)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:54 PM

Apr 2020

musclecar6

(1,690 posts)

9. Typical move by the bone spurs draft dodger

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 03:36 PM

Apr 2020

Since we know Capt Crozier got relieved of command by the poorest excuse for a president we've ever seen, it's not surprising. Joe's first official act on Jan 20th, should be to reinstate the Capt, or promote him to a high level position in the Navy, possibly Secretary of the Navy.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,463 posts)

10. Trump removed Captain Crozier. Navy brass followed orders.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:01 PM

Apr 2020

SayItLoud

(1,702 posts)

13. This is one action that EVERY reporter needs to stay focused on and hold tRUMP and his admin

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:16 PM

Apr 2020

accountable. tRUMP is supposed to be CIC ! Nail him to the cross for this action. A commander wants to protect his men and gets relieved for trying to do that.

DO NOT MOVE ON to the next tRUMP fuckupawhat! Stay with this, don't be distracted. Reach out to every GOP and DEM elected official and GET their comments ON THE RECORD.

Paladin

(28,273 posts)

14. trump pardoned and feted a Naval WAR CRIMINAL a few weeks ago.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:27 PM

Apr 2020

But when a genuinely responsible, accomplished, and heroic Naval officer comes along, trump throws him in the crapper. Typical.

When the Democrats re-take the White House later this year, I hope that Captain Crozier is immediately appointed Secretary Of The Navy. With a Medal Of Honor displayed on one of his office walls.

ffr

(22,671 posts)

15. tRump should be kicked in the balls by one of those in the military around him.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:27 PM

Apr 2020

That's not a thread, that's just a response for kicking them (The Navy) in the balls.

ENOUGH!

cwydro

(51,308 posts)

16. Rec.

Reply to babylonsister (Original post)

Fri Apr 3, 2020, 04:35 PM

Apr 2020

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