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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,192 posts)
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 08:59 PM Apr 2020

A Nurse Bought Protective Supplies for Her Colleagues Using GoFundMe. The Hospital Suspended Her.

Olga Matievskaya and her fellow intensive care nurses at Newark Beth Israel Medical Center in New Jersey were so desperate for gowns and masks to protect themselves from the coronavirus that they turned to the online fundraising site GoFundMe to raise money.

The donations flowed in — more than $12,000 — and Matievskaya used some of them to buy about 500 masks, 4,000 shoe covers and 150 jumpsuits. She and her colleagues at the hospital celebrated protecting themselves and their patients from the spread of the virus.

But rather than thanking the staff, hospital administrators on Saturday suspended Matievskaya for distributing “unauthorized” protective gear.

Across the country, front-line medical providers and hospital administrators are butting heads about precautions against the coronavirus pandemic. Clinicians are being told to reuse or go without necessary supplies even when treating patients infected with COVID-19. That goes against the way they’ve been trained. Some doctors and nurses now say they are being instructed not to speak to journalists and disciplined for doing so or taking action to protect themselves.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-nurse-bought-protective-supplies-for-her-colleagues-using-gofundme-the-hospital-suspended-her/ar-BB12gVmM?li=BBnb7Kz

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A Nurse Bought Protective Supplies for Her Colleagues Using GoFundMe. The Hospital Suspended Her. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2020 OP
You have to be fucking kidding me! dhol82 Apr 2020 #1
Fucking hospital bureaucrats DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #14
"There's so much distrust, and it's all borne out of poor coordination of leadership that should luvtheGWN Apr 2020 #22
Sad. k&r for visibility. n/t Laelth Apr 2020 #2
🤬🤬🤬🤬 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #3
I don't want bdamomma Apr 2020 #11
Yes SheltieLover Apr 2020 #12
This is nuts. nt crickets Apr 2020 #4
Well of course! You can't have a mere nurse thinking or acting independently, can you? PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2020 #5
Kushner didn't get the Trump Crime Family's cut on the sale so they had no choice but to suspend her Snake Plissken Apr 2020 #6
Or something very similar to that. nt oasis Apr 2020 #17
DUers in NJ, you're up. TomSlick Apr 2020 #7
Absolutely backtoblue Apr 2020 #13
Damn Straight DENVERPOPS Apr 2020 #16
Trying to protect your life and others by thinking outside the box.. Cha Apr 2020 #8
You Forgot The Word Desperately ProfessorGAC Apr 2020 #32
Let those fucking administrators assist intubating patients without PPE. Assholes Flaleftist Apr 2020 #9
I would sue the living hell out of them. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Apr 2020 #10
Yet another dimwitted action that griloco Apr 2020 #15
WTF?! sakabatou Apr 2020 #18
What the hell is going on in this country? Ohioboy Apr 2020 #19
MUST have been a republican!! Thekaspervote Apr 2020 #20
I think there will be a lot of wrongful death lawsuits from healthcare workers on hospitals when TeamPooka Apr 2020 #21
My step daughter works at that hospital. 3Hotdogs Apr 2020 #23
I think everybody all around the country should - Dem2theMax Apr 2020 #24
Normally, I would agree. But the lines need to be kept open for 3Hotdogs Apr 2020 #26
Very good point! Dem2theMax Apr 2020 #27
So they can afford to suspend a nurse at a time like this? lpbk2713 Apr 2020 #25
I worked in IT for a hospital for 20+ years thenelm1 Apr 2020 #28
Our ENTIRE medical system is so friggin' broken. From administrators to insurance companies BComplex Apr 2020 #29
We don't have a Medical system. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #33
Ugh. You're right. BComplex Apr 2020 #34
What's the salary of the CEO? It seems money trumps lives. Hermit-The-Prog Apr 2020 #30
Newark Beth Israel is a serial offender of shitbaggery Celerity Apr 2020 #31
Looks like one of the episodes of The Resident on tv. BComplex Apr 2020 #35
A contact form link where folks can express their opinions of this disgraceful Mike 03 Apr 2020 #36
Across the country, front line CEOs fuck over their front line workers. USA USA USA nt Hotler Apr 2020 #37

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
14. Fucking hospital bureaucrats
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:52 PM
Apr 2020

would be happier with them using Trash bag liners and bandanas...........

This whole thing is sooooo fucked up..........

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
22. "There's so much distrust, and it's all borne out of poor coordination of leadership that should
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:19 PM
Apr 2020

know better."

No, it's the for-profit healthcare industrial complex.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
3. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:06 PM
Apr 2020

K&R

It appears that someone, somewhere wants total collapse if our economy, medical professionals, & military. I am not a conspiracy theorist, just reading the writing on the wall of life.🤬

bdamomma

(63,922 posts)
11. I don't want
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:40 PM
Apr 2020

to believe conspiracy theories either, but something dark is going on, this is all about idiot boy, he will do everything he can to be re-elected even to the point of killing people, because he knows he will die in prison. I hoping to see that day.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,895 posts)
5. Well of course! You can't have a mere nurse thinking or acting independently, can you?
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 09:53 PM
Apr 2020

Plus, there's such an excess of nurses and other health-care workers that losing one simply won't matter, will it?

I'm hoping no one thinks I need to post the sarcasm thingy.

TomSlick

(11,109 posts)
7. DUers in NJ, you're up.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:26 PM
Apr 2020

Call the hospital and raise hell. This nurse was fired for embarrassing the hospital. A damned poor excuse right now.

DENVERPOPS

(8,844 posts)
16. Damn Straight
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:01 PM
Apr 2020

she humiliated the hospital administration, doing what needed to be done for her and her fellow workers......Something that the caregivers desperately needed to take care of the patients and the administration couldn't or wouldn't supply.

The question here is....How could she get this stuff and the hospital administration couldn't ???????????

They should go after the admin legally for firing her. Let it go to court and see how the Hospital comes out with a Jury......

Cha

(297,655 posts)
8. Trying to protect your life and others by thinking outside the box..
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:29 PM
Apr 2020

so you get Suspended when they No Doubt Need Nurses.

Makes sense. NOT.

ProfessorGAC

(65,168 posts)
32. You Forgot The Word Desperately
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 06:24 AM
Apr 2020

They desperately need nurses, & they suspend a healthy one.
I can actually see the admin concerned about legal issues with PPE not taken from stock. The solution would be to tell her, give us the stuff, we'll put it in inventory, and then use it.
Now, it's official.
Suspension is an idiotic overreach.

griloco

(832 posts)
15. Yet another dimwitted action that
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 10:56 PM
Apr 2020

bets can be taken on how long public pressure forces those in charge to reverse their moronic action....

TeamPooka

(24,254 posts)
21. I think there will be a lot of wrongful death lawsuits from healthcare workers on hospitals when
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:18 PM
Apr 2020

this is all said and done.

3Hotdogs

(12,408 posts)
23. My step daughter works at that hospital.
Tue Apr 7, 2020, 11:54 PM
Apr 2020

It is part of RWJ (Robert Wood Johnson) Barnabas.

Their whole system sucks.

St. Barnabas in Livingston, N.J., actually had McDonalds as their cafeteria.

Dem2theMax

(9,653 posts)
24. I think everybody all around the country should -
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:02 AM
Apr 2020

Go to their Facebook page, or their Twitter account, and give them an earful that way. The poster below me pointed out that we should not tie up the phone lines, and that is absolutely correct.


Newark Beth Israel Medical Center
201 Lyons Avenue at Osborne Terrace
Newark, NJ 07112

3Hotdogs

(12,408 posts)
26. Normally, I would agree. But the lines need to be kept open for
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:18 AM
Apr 2020

families to call about their loved ones. If you have a friend or relative in B.I., or any other hospital, you are not allowed to visit. The telephone is the only contact (yes indirect) that you have with your loved one.

Don't tie up the phones.

lpbk2713

(42,766 posts)
25. So they can afford to suspend a nurse at a time like this?
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:07 AM
Apr 2020


All other hospitals are begging for experienced help.
These administrators have their heads up their asses.

thenelm1

(854 posts)
28. I worked in IT for a hospital for 20+ years
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 12:34 AM
Apr 2020

Fortunately I was able to take early retirement going on 4 years ago. We never worked under the dire circumstances as are happening now, but I can attest to the fact that many times the administrators were the biggest road block in getting the appropriate things done. Too many times they would insert themselves into the simplest of issues/decisions just because they could. Particularly after we got bought out by the last and current hospital group.

It was incredibly aggravating - things our small IT group could resolve in short order became huge issues that had to be addressed through upper management. Things we had previously fixed in a few minutes, hours or a couple of days became issues that took multiple days, or more often weeks, to sort out because of the bureaucracy we had to deal with. In their system things I had worked with for years I was suddenly not qualified/allowed to do because it didn't fall under their definition of my "job description". Heck, we even had to adopt their systems - and yes common systems in the long run are a good thing - but that we had to literally give up systems that were a generation or two ahead of theirs, was really punch in the nuts. The main clinical documentation system wasn't too bad, but for groups like the surgical staff it was a huge step backwards. They were not happy campers.

Then there was the "rah, rah, go team" culture they expected - that BS doesn't equate to being good or bad at your job. Many of their staff were terrified that they wouldn't be seen as being enthusiastic enough team players - that attitude was very startling and cringe inducing for me and my coworkers who had all just dug in and did what had to be done without all the fanfare for years. I mean our staff, pre-buyout, was so small we were all on call 24/7 for any system we specialized in - minus vacations - and more that once I even got calls while on vacation. Under their system I ended my career answering calls from users mostly when they forgot their passwords to this or that system.

I just received a letter from them asking me if I'd be willing to come back if needed.....if I was a clinical person that would probably be a yes, the clinical side may definitely need the help, but as IT staff again, with their krap, not bloody likely.

BComplex

(8,064 posts)
29. Our ENTIRE medical system is so friggin' broken. From administrators to insurance companies
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 01:13 AM
Apr 2020

They all need to be gutted and made not for profit. It needs to be a law.

Celerity

(43,499 posts)
31. Newark Beth Israel is a serial offender of shitbaggery
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 05:38 AM
Apr 2020
“It’s Very Unethical”: Audio Shows Hospital Kept Vegetative Patient on Life Support to Boost Survival Rates

Darryl Young suffered brain damage during a heart transplant at Newark Beth Israel and never woke up. But, hardly consulting his family, doctors kept him alive for a year to avoid federal scrutiny.

https://www.propublica.org/article/audio-shows-hospital-kept-vegetative-patient-on-life-support-to-boost-survival-rates



On a Thursday morning this past April, 61-year-old Darryl Young was lying unconscious in the eighth-floor intensive care unit of Newark Beth Israel Medical Center. After suffering from congestive heart failure for years, Young, a Navy veteran and former truck driver with three children, had received a heart transplant on Sept. 21, 2018. He didn’t wake up after the operation and had been in a vegetative state ever since.

Machines whirred in his room, pumping air into his lungs. Nutrients and fluids dripped from a tube into his stomach. Young had always been fastidious, but now his hair and toenails had grown long. A nurse suctioned mucus from his throat several times a day to keep him from choking, according to employees familiar with his care. His medical record would note: “He follows no commands. He looks very encephalopathic” — brain damaged.

That day, in another wing of the hospital, where a group of surgeons, cardiologists, transplant coordinators, nurses and social workers gathered for their weekly meeting in a second-floor conference room, his name came up. “Anything on Darryl Young?” asked cardiologist Dr. Darko Vucicevic, according to a recording of the meeting obtained by ProPublica. “Need to keep him alive till June 30 at a minimum,” responded Dr. Mark Zucker, director of the hospital’s heart and lung transplant programs. Since the transplant, Young had suffered from pneumonia, strokes, seizures and a fungal infection. The Newark transplant team believed that he would never wake up or recover function, according to current and former staff members familiar with his case, as well as audio recordings. Yet they wanted to do all they could to keep his new heart beating.

The recordings show that the transplant team was fixated on keeping him alive, rather than his quality of life or his family’s wishes, because of worries about the transplant program’s survival rate, the proportion of people undergoing transplants who are still alive a year after their operations. Federal regulators rely on this statistic to evaluate — and sometimes penalize — transplant programs, giving hospitals across the country a reputational and financial incentive to game it. Newark Beth Israel’s one-year survival rate for heart transplants had dipped, and if Young were to die too soon, the program’s standing and even its own survival might be in jeopardy.

snip

BComplex

(8,064 posts)
35. Looks like one of the episodes of The Resident on tv.
Wed Apr 8, 2020, 02:44 PM
Apr 2020

There are no words to describe how wrong this is in so many ways. From the hospital staff doing this, to the system that "punishes" people trying to help heal other people. The medical "industry" needs to quit industrializing people, and making people be the "product" of their financial success.

When financial success is so important, then that is wrong on every level.

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