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eppur_se_muova

(36,305 posts)
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:52 PM Apr 2020

PSA: Before you wear a mask out in public, wear it around the house for awhile.

Last edited Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:29 PM - Edit history (1)

:You may discover it has problems you didn't count on. For some reason I found myself tending to gag when I couldn't draw enough breath through the mask -- something pretty unexpected. I also found my glasses steaming up, which is less serious, but could be a problem. Probably need to fine-tune the design a bit.


ETA: Of course it made me think about all the nurses, doctors, techs and first responders who have to wear these things ALL DAY ... EVERY DAY ... it takes a lot to do that.

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PSA: Before you wear a mask out in public, wear it around the house for awhile. (Original Post) eppur_se_muova Apr 2020 OP
My wife had the issue of her glasses clouding. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #1
My glasses cloud too mcar Apr 2020 #13
I've heard of a trick customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #15
Or you can use the diver's trick - good old fashioned spit. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #29
Someone here suggested baby shampoo csziggy Apr 2020 #42
Anecdotal, but I also heard that washing them with shaving cream would help. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #44
Ok, that I've got! customerserviceguy Apr 2020 #45
Wonder if Rainex works. LakeArenal Apr 2020 #51
That is a good question. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #60
Also to make sure it stays put. Yonnie3 Apr 2020 #2
Yea, my 1st surprise was the puffing in/out with my mouthbreathing, then the fogged glasses UTUSN Apr 2020 #3
Good advice. likesmountains 52 Apr 2020 #4
You might want to try a mask that has ties rather than ear elastic zeusdogmom Apr 2020 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Apr 2020 #59
My sunglasses steamed up during our morning walk the first time I used a mask malaise Apr 2020 #5
Excellent suggestion Mike 03 Apr 2020 #6
Everyone is surprised that its harder to breath through a mask. procon Apr 2020 #7
I was glad to learn that fogged glasses is fairly normal. I thought I made mine incorrectly. Pacifist Patriot Apr 2020 #8
yes, it makes my glasses fog up Grasswire2 Apr 2020 #9
nose wire. IcyPeas Apr 2020 #10
I see lots of pics shanti Apr 2020 #25
I shape the nose wire and they still fog up badly. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #46
pro mask have a one inch air pocket to allow ez breathing, home mades don't so the msongs Apr 2020 #11
If the mask has a wire or metal by the nose Mosby Apr 2020 #12
Definitely try to get one with a wire in it. Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #16
If you wear glasses, they will fog up when wearing a mask. Progressive dog Apr 2020 #14
It's not a magic mask - it's a nose wire. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #18
Well done. I taped a twist-tie inside a plain mask to make the nose-wire. VOX Apr 2020 #28
Yay!! Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #32
Who would have ever thought we'd be MacGyvering face masks? VOX Apr 2020 #35
I found placing the bottom of the rims of my glasses over the top of the mask takes care of it Kaleva Apr 2020 #41
That has worked for me as well. nt Codeine Apr 2020 #57
Fine tuning technique - Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #17
One site recommended using a twist-tie from a bread bag. eppur_se_muova Apr 2020 #21
I cant' imagine it would be helpful - or would hold up in the wash Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #26
22 ga ? Got plenty of that (spools!), thanks. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2020 #30
or a pipe cleaner IcyPeas Apr 2020 #31
I've heard that, as well. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #33
one of the videos that I watched used IcyPeas Apr 2020 #36
They are too stiff to shape around the nose. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author sl8 Apr 2020 #56
I Have A Problem RobinA Apr 2020 #20
My progressives work with the mask. Ms. Toad Apr 2020 #27
The first time I wore mine I didn't see the curb when I crossed the street to doc03 Apr 2020 #55
First world problem: My phone's Face ID doesn't recognize me! Silent3 Apr 2020 #22
Get some Fog-X at auto parts store. Made by Rain-X. For inside car windows & works on specs. n/t zackymilly Apr 2020 #23
Thanks, I wondered about Rain-X, but mine are AR coated, so didn't want to try it. nt eppur_se_muova Apr 2020 #48
yeah... i have had breathing issues wearing one also... had to not rush thru store - take it easy Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #24
Neck gators that motorcyclist use can be worn as a mask. Have a look. Hotler Apr 2020 #34
neck gaiters look like they would be a good idea IcyPeas Apr 2020 #38
That's what I use. Works well. Except mine is black and wife says I look kairos12 Apr 2020 #40
I know, isn't great? I would say anarchist over terrorist Hotler Apr 2020 #43
get a nice pink one IcyPeas Apr 2020 #47
I used that until I got a N95. GulfCoast66 Apr 2020 #54
My glasses fog and it sucks when I drive. Doreen Apr 2020 #37
I am trying to avoid going out at all. I have been going to the lobby occasionally to pick up smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #49
Good advice. Flaleftist Apr 2020 #50
FWIW, if your mask (especially the homemade ones) don't have a wire at the top of the nose part, napi21 Apr 2020 #52
I find wearing the mask steams my glasses up! dawg day Apr 2020 #53
Wearing them while physically working really sucks. Codeine Apr 2020 #58

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
1. My wife had the issue of her glasses clouding.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 01:56 PM
Apr 2020

I occasionally use a respirator when applying coverings to furniture. When I taught my daughters they found the respirator to be uncomfortable.

But if the choice is breathing toxic fumes or wearing the respirator, there is no choice.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
15. I've heard of a trick
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 03:10 PM
Apr 2020

but haven't tried it yet. Wash your lenses in soapy water, and don't rinse them. Let them dry, and the soap film is supposed to keep droplets of vapor from forming on them as you breathe.

I do remember something from about fifty years ago, it was a little waxy-feeling stick that came in a clear pill bottle. It was traffic cone orangey-red in color, and could be rubbed into the lenses, and worked pretty well. But I haven't seen them in decades.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
29. Or you can use the diver's trick - good old fashioned spit.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:23 PM
Apr 2020

Gross, but since I'm about to dive into an ocean of fish poo . . .

csziggy

(34,139 posts)
42. Someone here suggested baby shampoo
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:48 PM
Apr 2020

Since the no tears type will be easier on your eyes if it does get into them.

zeusdogmom

(999 posts)
19. You might want to try a mask that has ties rather than ear elastic
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 04:03 PM
Apr 2020

The ties (or strings as some people call them) go around the head and tie in back. You can adjust the mask better and nothing is going to mess with the ear piece of your glasses or the hearing aid.

I make and use both kinds and prefer the ties. The elastic bugs my ears and the fit has to be just right.

Response to zeusdogmom (Reply #19)

procon

(15,805 posts)
7. Everyone is surprised that its harder to breath through a mask.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:17 PM
Apr 2020

If you have preexisting respiratory problems it might not even be possible to wear a mask without an addition oxygen source (that's me).

When people realize they are having to work at breathing they get anxious and start fiddling with their mask to allow more air in. That defeats the purpose of wearing a mask for safety, plus you're putting your dirty fingers all over your face.

Difficult choices, but here's a couple of tips that might help when it's especially hard to breath through your mask; stop whatever you're doing.

Don't be shy about it, who cares what strangers think, just take a pause for a couple of minutes, sit down to rest if you can, or lean on your shopping cart. Sip some water. Let your body catch up with the reduced oxygen available. Try to breath through your nose, not your mouth, wait until you can do that before walking on. Repeat as needed.

Grasswire2

(13,571 posts)
9. yes, it makes my glasses fog up
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:23 PM
Apr 2020

...and mine is an N95 sent to me by my daughter a couple of years ago. Uncomfortable, too.

shanti

(21,675 posts)
25. I see lots of pics
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:04 PM
Apr 2020

of people wearing the nose wire kind and they don't even bother to shape the wire to their nose. It's just kind of laying there. Or even worse, they pull the mask down under their nose.

msongs

(67,462 posts)
11. pro mask have a one inch air pocket to allow ez breathing, home mades don't so the
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:26 PM
Apr 2020

fabric sucks into your nostrils and mouth when u breathe in.

Mosby

(16,384 posts)
12. If the mask has a wire or metal by the nose
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:32 PM
Apr 2020

You have to shape it around your nose so air doesn't come in or out. If your glasses get steamed up you have a leak.

Progressive dog

(6,921 posts)
14. If you wear glasses, they will fog up when wearing a mask.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 02:58 PM
Apr 2020

There is no fix that I have found for this and no magic mask that prevents it. I used to only wear them when creating dust.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
18. It's not a magic mask - it's a nose wire.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 03:58 PM
Apr 2020

I've made two models of masks, and the nose wire fixed the glasses steaming in both.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. Well done. I taped a twist-tie inside a plain mask to make the nose-wire.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:23 PM
Apr 2020

Works great, no more fogged eyeglasses.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
32. Yay!!
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:25 PM
Apr 2020

The first one I made was a fitted one, that was supposed to be tight enough it didn't need a nose wire - and was also supposed to be better at keeping things out.

Instant fog, before I even left the house. Nose wire fixed that.

Since the design was more complex - and didn't solve the problem it was designed to solve - i switched to another design.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
35. Who would have ever thought we'd be MacGyvering face masks?
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:32 PM
Apr 2020

Of course, who would have ever thought that Donald Trump would be president?

It’s a strange world we inhabit!

Kaleva

(36,360 posts)
41. I found placing the bottom of the rims of my glasses over the top of the mask takes care of it
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:47 PM
Apr 2020

The rims push the mask snug to my nose and i haven't had an issue with the glasses fogging.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
17. Fine tuning technique -
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 03:58 PM
Apr 2020

Add a 4" nose wire out of 22 gauge gardening wire at the top of the map. That will mold the mask to your nose and prevent the glasses steaming.

eppur_se_muova

(36,305 posts)
21. One site recommended using a twist-tie from a bread bag.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:55 PM
Apr 2020

I haven't tried it because I'm using a no-sew design.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
26. I cant' imagine it would be helpful - or would hold up in the wash
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:19 PM
Apr 2020

The wire is much finer, so it will be harder for it to hold the mask in place - and it is generally coated with paper, which would create a mess inside the casing.

I tried paper clips - they are not pliable enough. I made masks for all of my daughter's fellow baristas at Starbucks (as of Monday they were required to wear masks). They all reported that the 22 gauge wire was helpful (and I sent in a bag of 4.5" wires so they could replace whatever they were using.

You can use the wire with the no sew design if you're wiliing to do a couple of tacking stitches at each end to keep the wire in place.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
33. I've heard that, as well.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:26 PM
Apr 2020

Since I'm making mine to donate - with the expectation that they will be sterilized, I'm not sure a pipe cleaner would hold up.

IcyPeas

(21,916 posts)
36. one of the videos that I watched used
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:38 PM
Apr 2020

these 2 prong paper fasteners that are used to file 2 hole punched papers. they are meant to be opened and closed so I would think they might hold up pretty good.

https://www.staples.com/OIC-Self-Adhesive-Fasteners-2-3-4-Center-to-Center-2-Capacity/product_526012

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
39. They are too stiff to shape around the nose.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:43 PM
Apr 2020

It's hard to get the right balance between too stiff (too hard to bend & to get a tight fit - paper clip; paper fasteners) and not stiff enough (twist-ties, pipe cleaners).

Response to IcyPeas (Reply #36)

RobinA

(9,898 posts)
20. I Have A Problem
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 04:17 PM
Apr 2020

not only with the fogging, but I have progressive lenses, so when I put them on with a mask and it is on right I end up looking through the reading part of the lens. Which means I can’t see. I also can’t breathe, I don’t know how medical people do it. Do they have special glasses to wear with the mask? I do know that they get masks that fit right, where as we just get handed any mask and are told to wear it.

Ms. Toad

(34,117 posts)
27. My progressives work with the mask.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:21 PM
Apr 2020

The wire helps snug it against the nose so it doesn't displace the glasses.

Apparently the inability to breathe is a good thing, in terms of keeping the virus out. (I've heard that if it isn't hard to breathe it probably is letting to much through.

doc03

(35,389 posts)
55. The first time I wore mine I didn't see the curb when I crossed the street to
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 11:59 PM
Apr 2020

enter Kroger. I tripped over the curb skinned my knee and both wrists were sore the next day from catching my fall.
I watch where I am going more now.

Silent3

(15,350 posts)
22. First world problem: My phone's Face ID doesn't recognize me!
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 06:57 PM
Apr 2020

I have to either pull my mask down for a moment, or (the horrors!) manually key in my passcode to pay for my groceries!

zackymilly

(2,375 posts)
23. Get some Fog-X at auto parts store. Made by Rain-X. For inside car windows & works on specs. n/t
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:00 PM
Apr 2020

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Hotler

(11,452 posts)
34. Neck gators that motorcyclist use can be worn as a mask. Have a look.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:31 PM
Apr 2020

A suggestion,
https://www.klim.com/Tek-Sok-6024-002
https://www.klim.com/KLIM-Neck-Warmer-6109-001
They are easy to breath through and don't fog up our riding goggles or glasses.
Edit to add one more suggestion.
https://www.aerostich.com/clothing/wind-blocking-gear/shellaclava-neckwarmer.html
Aerostich makes really good products and, here in the USA.

Hotler

(11,452 posts)
43. I know, isn't great? I would say anarchist over terrorist
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:50 PM
Apr 2020

Think about it, now we can protest with mask, be anonymous just like the pooooolice that stand there protecting the wealthy from us.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
54. I used that until I got a N95.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:35 PM
Apr 2020

But doubled it. They are super fine because they are also good for sunblocking. If they keep UV rays out I figure they work for moisture droplets.

I’m used to wearing one because I wear them for hours at a time while on the boat.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
37. My glasses fog and it sucks when I drive.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 07:40 PM
Apr 2020

I only wear mine when I am with my mother. Yeah, I know I should wear it all the time when I do go out. The reason I don't is because it makes me claustrophobic and my body starts to panic and I can't breath. Passing out on the grocery store when I have to be there is not my idea of taking care of myself..

I already had a situation where I got my leg stuck when I fell and there was no way I could get it unstuck myself. The people walking by wouldn't help me. At least they were willing to walk up to my friends house to let them know I was on the ground and stuck.

I have a feeling a lot of people are going to suffer and have been suffering because no one will touch them to help.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
49. I am trying to avoid going out at all. I have been going to the lobby occasionally to pick up
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 08:12 PM
Apr 2020

deliveries and packages with a scarf around my face, but it's hard to breathe and it's itchy. Fortunately, it doesn't take much time. I also have a balcony that looks over a courtyard garden so I can get some fresh air without feeling too cooped-up.

I would like to go for a walk just to get some exercise, so I want to get a proper mask, but can't find one anywhere. If anyone knows where I can get one (or some) online, please let me know.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
50. Good advice.
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:02 PM
Apr 2020

Also, the urge to scratch your face under the mask can be strong, but resit. It will go away. I had to wear one for 9 hours straight. The urge to lift the mask and scratch my nose (especially because my nose leaked a little snot) nearly drove me mad at times but I ignored it and toughed through it and the urge faded. I am also used to sipping coffee or water throughout the day. I also resisted. These urges will be very strong at times, but you can tough through it.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
52. FWIW, if your mask (especially the homemade ones) don't have a wire at the top of the nose part,
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:16 PM
Apr 2020

you can put one in. You can use an opened paper clip, two twist ties, file folder prong fastener bottom. I've been using a prong fastener when I make mine and just make sure you fold the ends of the fastener in about 1/2" so the ends don't push through the fabric.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
53. I find wearing the mask steams my glasses up!
Fri Apr 10, 2020, 10:20 PM
Apr 2020

Fortunately, I don't have to wear it when I'm driving alone in my car. So I'm not any more of a danger on the road than I usually am!

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
58. Wearing them while physically working really sucks.
Sat Apr 11, 2020, 01:21 PM
Apr 2020

I had to downstack and merchandise several pallets worth of beverages yesterday in a heavy cloth mask and it was hell. Steamy, moist, overheated hell.

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