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applegrove

(118,718 posts)
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:57 AM Apr 2020

Trump's Plan to Contain the Coronavirus by Unleashing Anarchy Seems Risky

Trump’s Plan to Contain the Coronavirus by Unleashing Anarchy Seems Risky

By Jonathan Chait at the Intelligencer, NY Magazine


https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump-coronavirus-liberate-michigan-minnesota-virginia-lockdowns-tests.html

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President Trump has two basic modes of governing: abnegation and abuse. Throughout the coronavirus pandemic, Trump has alternately — and, at times, simultaneously — claimed absolute authority and zero responsibility for the crisis. On Thursday, he seemed to lurch back toward abnegation, telling governors they could “call their own shots” about when to reopen public spaces, and they are also “going to lead the testing.”

Today, he is lurching back toward abuse. In a series of wild, all-caps tweets, he called for unspecified revolutionary activity against three states with Democratic governors:


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The source of Trump’s peripatetic swings is his inability to competently manage the pandemic. He wants to ease up on social-distancing rules soon, but public-health officials have unanimously insisted that doing so requires an effective testing system. (Otherwise, those states could be vulnerable to new outbreaks that could spread before state authorities have the chance to stop them.) But despite Trump’s absurd lies that the United States has the best tests in the world, and that other countries are trying to copy our tests, the testing system has been in a state of shambles all along.

That failure necessitated his decision yesterday to throw all responsibility to the states. Administration officials tell the Washington Post this posture “is largely designed to shield himself from blame should there be new outbreaks after states reopen or for other problems.”

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applegrove

(118,718 posts)
1. Does he want to see States with Democratic Governors go into crisis and
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 12:58 AM
Apr 2020

go bankrupt? Those states in particular? As he panics because of losing suburban women and obama-obama-Trump voters, is he listening to the lesser angels of the WH?

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
5. I think COVID-45 intentionally ignored this virus.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:22 AM
Apr 2020

The criminal loves chaos. He wants to use it to gain autocratic power.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
6. Since every single thing that happens makes him wonder what he can get out of it
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:28 AM
Apr 2020

I’m sure you’re right. He can’t think past how he can capitalize on everything.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
7. There is one thing that will stop him.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:33 AM
Apr 2020

He lacks courage.

He’s a coward and that may just be what saves us.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
14. In a way I think he's a coward about getting prosecuted as a civilian
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:48 PM
Apr 2020

and that’s why he’ll do anything, including getting people killed to stay in office. He’s terrified of being held accountable. Maybe he’s even asked for asylum in his favorite countries but they’ve said no so as to not fall afoul of the next American President.

He’s even trying to foment violence over the lock down policies of Democratic governors in his needed states.

Either way you’re right. He is a coward.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
8. Yeah, I agree he loves chaos, but he cannot control this chaos.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 01:35 AM
Apr 2020

He cannot gain anything by not controlling anything. He is gambling like he he did in Atlantic City.

So he will lose again, because criminal chaos at the head of state will lose in the the end.

At least it should in a sane country.

BigmanPigman

(51,613 posts)
9. Unfortunately this time he is gambling with our lives and money.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:10 AM
Apr 2020

He certainly loves distractions though. This is one Hell of a shiny object and he is making it shinier with each tweet and presser.

 

rusty quoin

(6,133 posts)
10. That shiny time has a expiration date and it is in November. We are truly pissed off.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 02:20 AM
Apr 2020

They are naturally pissed off always, because they just are.

But damn it all, we are the the majority, and WE are really pissed off.

canetoad

(17,171 posts)
11. This erratic behaviour
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 03:03 AM
Apr 2020

Seems to reinforce the observation that, "Trump believes the last person he talked to." Whether it be Dr. Fauci or Hannity.

I'd hate to be that morally weak and pliable in a quest for respect.

Squinch

(50,957 posts)
12. This is EXACTLY the tone this should be met with: ridicule and chastisement.
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 07:53 AM
Apr 2020

Concentrate on Donnie Bodybags's incompetence and don't give air to the astroturf Imbecile Parades of protesters.

We would be making a big mistake to give much air to the protesting morons.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,326 posts)
13. states are required to balance their budgets, while Washington can borrow almost without limit
Sat Apr 18, 2020, 09:55 AM
Apr 2020

This is the basic economic argument that needs to be put a lot more (and I haven't seen it much around DU, though maybe I haven't been reading the right threads).

Third, states are required to balance their budgets annually, while Washington can borrow almost without limit. This is the most important reason why Trump’s states-first posture is so irrational. The recession is throwing states into a fiscal crisis, as their revenue stream dries up and more people need social services.

A national government - above all, the national government with the strongest currency in the world - can borrow to get things done now, and gradually pay it back over decades if needed. That was how WW2 was won. You get people doing the necessary work right away, keep them in basic health and necessities, and then 'pay' for it through taxing future profits which depend on the stable society that has been achieved.

Getting states to spend beyond their means, when they are not allowed to borrow to do it, is a way of either (a) forcing Democratic-led states into bankruptcy, with the aim of fooling voters into turning to Republicans, as if they'd have done better, or (b) forcing states into being controlled by Trump and Washington Republicans - with concessions (Voting rights? Labor laws? Environmental standards?) demanded in return for help.
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