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Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 07:42 PM Apr 2020

Medical supplier says FEMA seized 400,000 N95 masks, has them 'just sitting on a loading dock at JFK

The seizures are continuing. This article includes a seizure on 4/19.

[link:https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-delaware-company-says-fema-seized-mask-shipments-amid-coronavirus-20200421-3yz7dks53fbl7jlrjhuq2xokyu-story.html|]

A medical supply company in Delaware is questioning the legality of federal seizures of N95 respirator masks destined for medical workers amid the coronavirus pandemic.

George Gianforcaro, owner of Delaware-based Indutex USA, told the Daily News that the Federal Emergency Management Agency confiscated 400,000 masks in two imported shipments meant for his U.S. customers.

He said the masks, which arrived in separate shipments on April 6 and April 19, are still being held at JFK Airport, apparently stranded in limbo as federal officials work out what to do next.

“The product is just sitting on a loading dock at JFK. They want to charge me $3,000 a day to store it there. I said, ‘I’ll just come pick it up then.’ They said, ‘No, it’s not released.’ It’s un-American. It’s horrible,” Gianforcaro told The News.


They are slowing down the delivery of protective gear so republican donors can make money distributing the seized gear. In my opinion.

Here’s a link
[link:https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/27/republican-fundraiser-company-coronavirus-152184|]
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Medical supplier says FEMA seized 400,000 N95 masks, has them 'just sitting on a loading dock at JFK (Original Post) Midnightwalk Apr 2020 OP
That's so wrong. In_The_Wind Apr 2020 #1
It is absolutely criminal. People are dying because of the intentional delays. nt Blue_true Apr 2020 #10
But "nobody important" is dying. LiberalArkie Apr 2020 #12
Yeah. Blue_true Apr 2020 #13
or bdamomma Apr 2020 #33
Rush has a pre-exhausting condition. They would explain that one away. Blue_true Apr 2020 #36
🤬 SheltieLover Apr 2020 #2
He should take it to the courts, if they're threatening him with a storage fee, but won't let him BComplex Apr 2020 #63
I agree! SheltieLover Apr 2020 #64
Stockpiling for red states. Meantime doctors, nurses, and cleaning staff are DYING. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #3
Stockpiling for second wave closer to the election intheflow Apr 2020 #55
So, NYC should just seize them right back. defacto7 Apr 2020 #4
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #5
Exactly Rebl2 Apr 2020 #28
Who has jurisdiction over the airport? DBoon Apr 2020 #62
Or Don and Jared can--or they can get kickbacks when their cronies profit from them. nt tblue37 Apr 2020 #6
The Princes of Profiteering. nt oasis Apr 2020 #47
+ 1. nt iluvtennis Apr 2020 #49
More crimes against humanity. onecaliberal Apr 2020 #7
Somebody ought to be in jail for this. It's crazy. nt crickets Apr 2020 #8
Headed for Russia. sarcasmo Apr 2020 #9
yep bluestarone Apr 2020 #11
No, but Trump should be charged with manslaughter or negligent homicide for any doctor or nurse cstanleytech Apr 2020 #17
Agreed! Rebl2 Apr 2020 #29
He's no better bdamomma Apr 2020 #34
Has the media covered this rufus dog Apr 2020 #14
Good question...They certainly SHOULD be covering it whathehell Apr 2020 #23
the NY Daily news is.. stillcool Apr 2020 #31
It's exhausting isn't it Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #53
Rachel Maddow JI7 Apr 2020 #60
When are we going to see this on CNN DBoon Apr 2020 #61
Of many disturbing things during this pandemic, this one makes me as angry Ferrets are Cool Apr 2020 #15
Trump is probably waiting for Putin to tell him when to send them over. cstanleytech Apr 2020 #16
Gov Cuomo should send in the NY National Guard and take them by force if necessary. roamer65 Apr 2020 #18
I agree. The stuff doesn't belong to FEMA. Ilsa Apr 2020 #25
These bastards bdamomma Apr 2020 #38
I completely agree. Do it now... dchill Apr 2020 #37
I do not understand why every serious media outlet is not demanding answers. Lonestarblue Apr 2020 #19
+1 crickets Apr 2020 #27
Russia bdamomma Apr 2020 #40
I'm beginning to think something more sinister is going on here. liberalmuse Apr 2020 #20
Really sinister bdamomma Apr 2020 #45
Our government has become infected with pirates dlk Apr 2020 #21
Shitler going to autograph the masks??? IADEMO2004 Apr 2020 #22
Where are the supplies going that Trump has been confiscating? keithbvadu2 Apr 2020 #24
There is a lot bdamomma Apr 2020 #46
This bdamomma Apr 2020 #26
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #30
"Small Government" in action Hiawatha Pete Apr 2020 #32
WTF?! If this is true, Putin's agent really has a stranglehold on the federal bureaucracy KPN Apr 2020 #35
The GOP's unwillingness to rein him in RussBLib Apr 2020 #39
There is no middle ground. They have intentionally undermined our Constitution KPN Apr 2020 #43
Money too Midnightwalk Apr 2020 #51
McConnell bdamomma Apr 2020 #48
Interesting clash of jurisdictions and circumstances. dickthegrouch Apr 2020 #41
Unfuckingbelievable. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #42
It's Prohibition for medical supplies and the black market operates in plain sight bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #44
Everything Trump Touches Dies - Literally And Figuratively DanieRains Apr 2020 #50
Cuomo should go and seize them right back. JDC Apr 2020 #52
So if you look really close in this image ... aggiesal Apr 2020 #54
FEMA doing this under orders. EndlessWire Apr 2020 #56
Are we in the middle of a rethuglican coup? ecstatic Apr 2020 #57
k&r Demovictory9 Apr 2020 #58
There should be some fucking heads rolling for this Blue Owl Apr 2020 #59
I bet they are going to Russia n/t Horse with no Name Apr 2020 #65

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
13. Yeah.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:23 PM
Apr 2020

In a way, it would be nice if Hannity got it and died. That would be the only patriotic thing that he would ever have done for the country.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
36. Rush has a pre-exhausting condition. They would explain that one away.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:54 PM
Apr 2020

The InfoWars pig would also by a good one to meet Satan right now, he has earned it.

BComplex

(8,067 posts)
63. He should take it to the courts, if they're threatening him with a storage fee, but won't let him
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 02:01 PM
Apr 2020

take the masks. That's as illegal as it comes.
Welcome to republican rulership.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
64. I agree!
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 04:04 PM
Apr 2020

But, it seems no matter what repukes do, there is never a penalty.

This aspect of our govt absolutely must change come January, if not sooner! 👍

intheflow

(28,504 posts)
55. Stockpiling for second wave closer to the election
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:05 PM
Apr 2020

when 45 will give them out like candy. To red and swing states. Everything they do is a calculated risk to gain them more power.

cstanleytech

(26,320 posts)
17. No, but Trump should be charged with manslaughter or negligent homicide for any doctor or nurse
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:51 PM
Apr 2020

that catches the virus and dies from it at any facility where masks were located at and or destined for.
Since its a state crime a presidential pardon might not save his golf playing ass.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
34. He's no better
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:53 PM
Apr 2020

than Syria's President/killer Assad who used saran gas on the population.

He's a fucking killer, PERIOD. Just don't show his briefings/shit shows anymore.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
31. the NY Daily news is..
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:38 PM
Apr 2020

the cable people don't need to send a crew...just piggy-back. All the work is done for them.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
53. It's exhausting isn't it
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:50 PM
Apr 2020

The press did cover it a couple of weeks ago, but there’s so much other outrageous behavior that this got dropped. Remember the story of the patriots owner helping Massachusetts “smuggle” gear in from china

Imagine that. Smuggling in masks so the government wouldn’t seize them.

This latest story is a reminder that nothing was done. Republicans in the senate block oversight. Oversight is slow anyway and the DOJ has been captured.

Governors are not yet inclined to take more drastic measures. I understand that. They have enough on their hands and are facing a debt crisis.

I agree that the wider press should be running these stories. Interview the guy the daily news interviewed.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,110 posts)
15. Of many disturbing things during this pandemic, this one makes me as angry
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 08:40 PM
Apr 2020

as any. None of this shit would be happening if we had a REAL PRESIDENT.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
25. I agree. The stuff doesn't belong to FEMA.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:23 PM
Apr 2020

And WH reporters should ask about this thievery during the daily briefing.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
38. These bastards
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:58 PM
Apr 2020

keep on saying states have the equipment or testing is available, I would say WHY are supplies being intercepted by FEMA for States use.

WTF, is it going to that 1% or the fucking red states????

Lonestarblue

(10,085 posts)
19. I do not understand why every serious media outlet is not demanding answers.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:12 PM
Apr 2020

Reporters should read a list of seizures to Trump at his press briefings and then ask why FEMA is taking masks meant for states when Trump himself told states they were responsible for getting their own masks. What FEMA doing with these masks?

This needs to be on the daily news until either it stops or the media finds out how these supplies are being used. Is Trump planning to send them to Russia?

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
20. I'm beginning to think something more sinister is going on here.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:16 PM
Apr 2020

Are they actually trying to cull the herd? It makes you wonder.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
45. Really sinister
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:14 PM
Apr 2020

holding supplies away from those states who need these supplies desperately. Our Drs. and Nurses are in a horrible state of inadequate or no supplies.



Who is profiting off these supplies, or is Russia the next country he's going to give the supplies to? We know that POS sent our supplies to China.

He is a CRIMINAL period.

keithbvadu2

(36,937 posts)
24. Where are the supplies going that Trump has been confiscating?
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:18 PM
Apr 2020

Where are the supplies going that Trump has been confiscating?

---------------------------
Republican seller has 'relationships with a lot of people.'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142462680

Republican fundraiser looks to cash in on coronavirus

The fundraiser, Mike Gula, didn’t specify his new line of work in the email. But in an interview, he said he’d started a new company selling medical equipment that’s been in short supply during the coronavirus pandemic.
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Asked how he’d managed to procure such equipment when there are shortages in hospitals across the country, Gula said, “I have relationships with a lot of people.”

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
26. This
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:24 PM
Apr 2020

is a genocide, killing Americans, negligent criminal actions are being assaulted on Americans. Stopping supplies???? WTF is that???

We need to turn the tables, on this sick regime. Flood the WH with e-mails, and say what a fucking ass he is.

How many more Americans are going to die????? for this fucking POS, McConnell and the rest have to go too.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
30. +1000
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:36 PM
Apr 2020

That's exactly what this is. Those responsible for this should spend the rest of their lives in prison.

KPN

(15,662 posts)
35. WTF?! If this is true, Putin's agent really has a stranglehold on the federal bureaucracy
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:54 PM
Apr 2020

to be able to do something as evil and callous as this — and no internal whistleblowers. If this is an accurate story, he’s got those federal career workers who haven’t already abandoned their careers scared shitless.

As a retired federal careerist, this strikes me as deeply disturbing — no, deeply frightening in that the only reason he can and is doing this is the GOP.

RussBLib

(9,037 posts)
39. The GOP's unwillingness to rein him in
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 09:59 PM
Apr 2020

Tells me they are in it up to their eyeballs, or,

They are the biggest collection of cowards in American history.

I don't see a middle ground.

KPN

(15,662 posts)
43. There is no middle ground. They have intentionally undermined our Constitution
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:07 PM
Apr 2020

in their fervor to hang on to power. In that regard, they are traitors to the country, the Constitution, and we the people in my view. I don’t see middle ground on that either.

Midnightwalk

(3,131 posts)
51. Money too
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:40 PM
Apr 2020

Quid pro quo is naive. It’s good to do favors for friends.

Agree that power is a motivation by itself.

bdamomma

(63,923 posts)
48. McConnell
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:27 PM
Apr 2020

is a key cretin in this too, his ass needs to be gone too. They can choke on that money. Domestic terrorists=GOP/ tRump Cultists

dickthegrouch

(3,184 posts)
41. Interesting clash of jurisdictions and circumstances.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:03 PM
Apr 2020

While The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution prevents illegal searches and seizures and is one of the most fundamental rights guaranteed to Americans, that seems only to apply to criminal law.

The civil asset forfeiture laws seem quite different, but can a Federal institution invoke civil penalties without due process?

If I were that manufacturer I’d be asking my attorneys to blur exactly as many lines as the Feds have in fighting this, by filing both civil and criminal, State and federal, cases against both the individuals and institutions involved in these seizures.

I’d also be fighting it in the court of public opinion making a hell of a stink on the 6 o’clock news.

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
44. It's Prohibition for medical supplies and the black market operates in plain sight
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 10:07 PM
Apr 2020

It's how big players thrived in the 1920s

aggiesal

(8,929 posts)
54. So if you look really close in this image ...
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:02 PM
Apr 2020

there are 2 styles of masks made by the same manufacturer, Safety-Zone.
We could probably do some investigation and determine if these masks have been reported as confiscated and how
did Republican Fundraiser Mike Gula get his hands on them?

One is style # RS-920-EV-N95
The manufacturer is Safety-Zone and here is their web site for this mask.
http://safety-zone.com/products/respirators/rs-920-ev-n95-2/

The other style is # RS-810
http://safety-zone.com/products/respirators/rs-810

What's interesting is that style RS-810 has an invoice that reads: Cost $45 per case, case pack of 1000, Tax Free
This means that each mask costs 4.5¢ each.
I'll be he charges $5-$10 per.

EndlessWire

(6,570 posts)
56. FEMA doing this under orders.
Wed Apr 22, 2020, 11:47 PM
Apr 2020

Obviously. But, who, and why?

1. Provide them to Russia or the Saudis. He told us to get our own, and Jared let it slip that stockpiles of PPEs belong to them. Imports of PPEs at dockside do not constitute hoarding.

2. Someone has told them that the pandemic is going to last a lot longer than they are telling, and they are taking all the masks for the GOP.

So, when did they make the importation of N95 masks illegal?

I never heard of an underground railroad for masks before. Isn't this just insane? Can't anyone ask Trump where they are taking the stolen masks?

Is every person in a red state insane? Aren't they also wondering what Trump is doing here?

Every day I wake up and say, "I hate his guts." I feel awful for it. But I want those assholes gone. Every. Last. One.

PS. What if he is planning a war and needs to give masks to the troops? What if this is some sort of prewar action?

Blue Owl

(50,514 posts)
59. There should be some fucking heads rolling for this
Thu Apr 23, 2020, 01:39 AM
Apr 2020

Who the goddamn fuck is rendering these life-saving supplies useless in a time of crisis?

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