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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 02:51 AM Apr 2020

FFS: a *second* Russian doctor has had an "accident" and plunged to her death

https://nypost.com/2020/04/27/russian-doctor-with-coronavirus-mysteriously-plunges-to-death/

A doctor who caught the coronavirus in Russia’s cosmonaut training facility was killed in an apparent suicide jump from a hospital window amid allegations she had failed to stop an outbreak of the illness, according to a report.

Dr. Natalya Lebedeva had been accused of failing to stop an outbreak of COVID-19 at Star City, site of the Yuri Gagarin Cosmonaut Training Center, the Daily Mail reported.

She had been directly involved in the treatment of the facility’s “patient zero,” one of the heads of the training center who had been in direct contact with cosmonauts, the outlet reported, citing the Moskovsky Komsomolets newspaper.

Lebedeva, who had been treated in Moscow, fell from the sixth floor of the Federal Biomedical Agency in an apparent suicide, the UK outlet reported.
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FFS: a *second* Russian doctor has had an "accident" and plunged to her death (Original Post) Recursion Apr 2020 OP
Ah yes, falling out of windows, a well known C-19 symptom Withywindle Apr 2020 #1
It is the increasingly well known Russian mutation... hlthe2b Apr 2020 #13
and yet trump, putin, stephen miller, and the turtle continue to draw breath ... mr_lebowski Apr 2020 #2
hold tight, itchy britches! sprinkleeninow Apr 2020 #5
Worms don't have that far to fall to the ground. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2020 #10
Oh dear, DURHAM D Apr 2020 #3
I'm thinking they were trying to get the truth out about the Corona Cases in Russia JI7 Apr 2020 #4
It is just a message Chainfire Apr 2020 #14
Holy shit! Do the Russians really think that nobody suspects that "falling out of windows" smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #6
They WANT people to know in some cases, like their public poisonings. Hortensis Apr 2020 #7
You know, if Trump gets elected again, this is exatcly what we are going to start seeing smirkymonkey Apr 2020 #8
Well, today's Republican leaders are at least going in that direction. Hortensis Apr 2020 #9
Fixing your typo: "installed again," not "elected again." lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #15
👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽THIS !!!👆🏽👆🏽👆🏽, Trump takes children from helpless parents uponit7771 Apr 2020 #18
yep uponit7771 Apr 2020 #16
Awful. No doubt scapegoated by Putin. SunSeeker Apr 2020 #11
Because fear really helps people do their jobs. nilram Apr 2020 #12
Somebody needs to tell Putin that assassinations won't stop the virus. crickets Apr 2020 #17

Withywindle

(9,988 posts)
1. Ah yes, falling out of windows, a well known C-19 symptom
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:14 AM
Apr 2020

Definitely not a favorite Russian mob assassination technique, oh no. We will NEVER get any accurate information out of Russia ever, forget about that.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. and yet trump, putin, stephen miller, and the turtle continue to draw breath ...
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:19 AM
Apr 2020

clearly there is no God.

Dr Lebedeva

DURHAM D

(32,611 posts)
3. Oh dear,
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:23 AM
Apr 2020
It was unclear whether the “patient zero” had any contact with cosmonauts who have since traveled to the International Space Station.


Anyone know the Americans currently on the Space Station?

Update: Looks like this is the only American currently there - Chris Cassidy.


https://www.nasa.gov/astronauts/biographies/christopher-j-cassidy/biography

Chainfire

(17,663 posts)
14. It is just a message
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 08:20 AM
Apr 2020

Stay with the official message or bad things happen. It is a very effective technique.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Holy shit! Do the Russians really think that nobody suspects that "falling out of windows"
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 03:49 AM
Apr 2020

is not an obvious government hit? It just happens too often for it to be a coincidence. Especially when you consider the background of these people who are supposedly committing "suicide". Putin is evil to the core. I wouldn't be surprised if we started seeing the same kind of thing over here soon.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. They WANT people to know in some cases, like their public poisonings.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 04:10 AM
Apr 2020

And in others they apparently find ambiguity perhaps even more terrorizing than certainty, like this one. And when they don't want people to know, they use other techniques. Don't seem like people who'd waste a good pandemic when it could be used to hide murders of people who've become nuisances.

Apparently, though, Russia currently wants to send a clear and unmistakable message to officials in former Soviet Union nations by murdering the mayor of Prague. From yesterday:

The mayor of Prague has confirmed police are guarding him around the clock after a Czech news magazine reported that he and another Prague official were likely targets of a Russian poisoning plot. ...

His comments come after the Czech weekly Respekt reported Hrib and Prague 6 district Mayor Ondrej Kolar had been singled out by Russian intelligence for poisoning with a deadly toxin. ...

Respekt quotes unnamed security sources as saying a suspected Russian intelligence officer arrived in the Czech capital three weeks ago on a diplomatic passport and with a suitcase containing ricin.

Hrib stirred ire in Moscow for backing a decision to rename the square in front of the Russian Embassy in Prague after the slain Kremlin critic Boris Nemtsov. ...

https://www.rferl.org/a/prague-mayor-under-police-protection-amid-report-of-possible-russian-poisoning-plot/30579651.html


I can see how that would do it.
 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. You know, if Trump gets elected again, this is exatcly what we are going to start seeing
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 04:25 AM
Apr 2020

in this country. I have no doubt about it. Politicians, journalists and other "political enemies" will end up being statistics. Even civilians who don't toe the line. It's frightening to see how easily they can just kill anyone who displeases them.

Trump absolutely has this in his nature. And if he wins he will become a complete dictator. Democracy will be dead. This is a fight for the soul of our nation. There has never been a more important election in the history of this country and we have to make sure that it is a fair one.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Well, today's Republican leaders are at least going in that direction.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 04:54 AM
Apr 2020

It's certainly a thought. Our history and culture, though, are extremely different from Russia's long one of authoritarian rule and murder. We haven't ever had anything like that. Widespread murder would require power and oppression strong enough to get away with it in a nation that had never knuckled to that.

But some secret murders and pretend-legal disappearances into prisons, cheered by their "base," and the DoJ filled with even more of their people and also afraid to act? If they continue in power, and given their actions so far, of course people like McConnell and company, and Trump, would not be beyond it.

And Russia is influencing the Republicans. It's played a big role in furthering the corruption of the Republican Party, Republican leaders have adopted increasingly fascistic attitudes and tactics to get and keep power, and a relationship has developed between some Republican leaders and Russia as they work to take out their common Democratic Party threat.

And now we have the evidence of the refusal of Republican leaders to try to contain or mitigate SARS-2, leading to pandemic. My best guess is they may have opportunistically hoped its disruption would create opportunity to keep power, and still do. They probably underestimated the economic costs, and the virus itself, but many deaths were expected from the beginning.

crickets

(25,987 posts)
17. Somebody needs to tell Putin that assassinations won't stop the virus.
Tue Apr 28, 2020, 09:04 AM
Apr 2020

It just makes him look b-- never mind.

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