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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo the meat packing companies won't face any liability with the Con's Executive Order?
Is it genocide yet?
brewens
(13,631 posts)build tent cities for the workers to all live in. That would be if they wanted to keep their jobs, so it wouldn't be exactly like a prison work camp.
malaise
(269,219 posts)seriously
Cattledog
(5,919 posts)Now you can get infected, maybe die, and you & your family have no recourse.
Shermann
(7,455 posts)The Feds should be subsidizing hazard pay though.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Shermann
(7,455 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Shermann
(7,455 posts)It isn't fair to the food industry workers.
The whole situation is even less fair to health care workers. They are more critical, are in even more danger, and are far more difficult to replace.
And yet here we are loosening restrictions regardless. Let's not pussy foot around what that really means. The hardships won't be distributed evenly, never have never will.
Food industry workers who don't show up will be quickly replaced, as callous as that may be.
We're at war folks.
Cattledog
(5,919 posts)From 2019
Slaughter/processing facilities tend to be heavily located in rural areas, which can have tighter labor markets than the numbers even suggest, says Katelyn McCullock, director of the Livestock Marketing Information Center, based in Littleton, Colo. Its a challenge to find workers to fill the roles as necessary.
For one, these are skilled-labor jobs. Generally, they are not for someone who can be picked up off the street and put into this role, McCullock says. They require training.
https://www.provisioneronline.com/articles/108519-state-of-the-meat-poultry-industry-workforce-2019
This is why it's a huge issue. These are skilled workers, not easily replaced.
Shermann
(7,455 posts)...even by 2019 standards when it was written (when the unemployment rate was 3.7%)
It asserts that these jobs are highly skilled while only demonstrating that they are merely difficult. The article also has to juggle the concession that these jobs are low-paying and "rely on a fairly substantial immigrant workforce".
So this article is right out the window in 2020 with our 20% unemployment rate. I get no joy from smashing your counter-argument.
pecosbob
(7,545 posts)I guess many here never saw any of the employment fliers Tyson and Smithfield have been circulating in Latin American countries for decades...
malaise
(269,219 posts)Most of the workers are just dispensable minorities
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)And how does en executive order bypass liability law
I don't think it dos.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Death of those Workers. History tells us ,when the Bodies pile up,shit changes.
People have to understand,these workers live from pay check to paycheck and support a ton of Relatives because it is their Cultural Nature. When the Mortuary People start turning in the Bills for Burial expense which is required in most states,watch all hell break loose.
And fortunately we have a few Activists who will be on the look out for mass graves much like New York.
spanone
(135,900 posts)Generic Brad
(14,276 posts)Saying it doesn't make it so. He can't waive the rule of the law with a wave of his abnormally little hands and expect it to be reality. The executive branch executes law; it doesn't make it up to suit the executive's whims.
flotsam
(3,268 posts)it wouldn't just shield the owner-they all have liability insurance to a greater or lesser degree. So the state cuts unemployment expenses, the feds can begin collecting payroll taxes again, the owners start making money again,and the insurance megacorporations are shielded from insurance payouts while they and the business owners happily shower some of their "winnings" on the GOP. See: Almost a win-win for everybody....I didn't forget anyone, did I?
malaise
(269,219 posts)safeinOhio
(32,736 posts)In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.[3]
muriel_volestrangler
(101,390 posts)rather than saying that the federal government will pay the bill of the lawsuit. Because he's an evil fucker.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)The jungle comes to mind add in genocide and abuse. Capitalism is inhumane. We as human beings can do better than capitalism.
malaise
(269,219 posts)Been thinking about that classic since last week