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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump is forcing workers to go back to meat plants despite outbreaks
By Dan Desai Martin -April 29, 2020 10:40 AM
Republican officials begged Donald Trump to use his authority to keep plants open during a health crisis.
Donald Trump signed an executive order to define meat processing as critical infrastructure after two of the largest pork processing plants in the country suspended operations due to the coronavirus crisis, the Associated Press reported Tuesday night.
Trump will use the powers of the Defense Production Act to force production plants to remain open, despite the safety risks to meatpacking plant workers, to ensure there is chicken, pork, and other meats at grocery stores during the crisis.
When speaking to reporters earlier on Tuesday about the executive order, Trump did not say what, if any, additional protections would be offered to workers.
Unions immediately slammed the decision, saying it's prioritizing meat over people's lives.
https://americanindependent.com/donald-trump-coronavirus-meat-workers-pork-critical-infrastructure-covid-19/
Hey Sen Mike Rounds, if your fucking kid was in that plant what would you fucking say.................fucking chickenshit asshole...........
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,829 posts)Takket
(21,620 posts)Would love to see an employee get in camera and say if drumpf wants a piece of bacon he can drag his lazy ass down here and cut it himself.
Towlie
(5,327 posts)Just because a company is forced to open doesn't mean its employees are forced to come to work.
MineralMan
(146,325 posts)They have few other options available to them. Most are immigrants who couldn't find work in those areas, except at the meat packing plant. They're trapped by their economic situations.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Similar to the GOP plan to "re-open" businesses in states. If it is open and you do not return, YOU are making the choice to quit and your unemployment benefits are gone.
It is evil. It is uniquely conservative/Republican.
Towlie
(5,327 posts)Caliman73
(11,744 posts)to minimize unemployment benefits and create wealth for Capitalists?
I am being intentionally obtuse to get some clarity, in case you are confused.
I know that evil is not unique to conservatives/Republicans. I said, that forcing people to work to maximize profit and to kick people off public benefits is unique to the GOP here.
Unless you can explain the Soviet/Chernobyl scenario in a way that parallels what is being proposed here.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)a month ago.
Watch Worthington for a major clash between the State of Minny and Trumps Corporate Slugs.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)It is time for them to all come together and fight to save their lives. I believe they have a union. If you don't fight when someone is trying to kill you, I cannot weep for you when you die.
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Once they give into his demands , they'll only increase , and become more dangerous for them. Many , many others I bet wish they gad never given into his demands also.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)Union talking to "the help"? Close the plant, get suckers 100 miles away to finance another one as "job creation". Blacklist any "trouble" from the old plant, hire "illegals" or "scabs" for as many positions as possible. "Buy out" the old plant with another shell company, strip the assets in bankruptcy.
Old game, an old fight. I figure that MAGAdise is 1923 America, pretty much their ideal world. Machine guns were labor policy, to men like Trump wishes he was. Or you could pay off The Klan, criminals, mercenaries, a church, the cops, even enlist the "scabs" as strikebreakers. And that's just in southern Colorado; Wikipaedia has gruesome details of The Ludlow Massacre and The Columbine Massacre, see also Baldwin-Felts Detective Agency.
Tanuki
(14,920 posts)gibraltar72
(7,510 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)The question is why would you equate FDR to Trump's recklessness?
gibraltar72
(7,510 posts)hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Mopar151
(9,992 posts)I briefly worked for a "skills testing" company, and their big thing then was doing the hiring exams for all the electricans and automation mechanics for a huge new meatpacking plant. In Greely, Colo.
People are "forced" into factories, because it's a way to make a living in the world. It's good and honest work, and SHOULD pay well. People who are good at it, are worth keeping around. Enough so, that many labor-intensive industries use "gainsharing" well, pay a decent wage and an annual "share/bonus" that can run 20-50% of base rate.
The meatpacking business, sadly, is run by the usual amoral, greedy, fearful, and willingly stupid "managers" that infest the "business" world. Hire an Army of doh-ass, cheap jack "help", or whoever is desperate enough to take the job for short$$. Then you set them all to fighting with each other, so's you can rip them off TOO.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)This is the obvious flaw of Capitalism. Profit is the overarching drive for many people. The idiot in the White House is condoning the greed over the welfare of the rest of us.
This is why so many people are saying that it is a time for paradigm shift. We cannot sustain the idea of profit being the primary function of business. We need to shift to sustainability.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Food supply in my opinion IS critical infrastructure, meat or otherwise. I think that it is likely necessary to keep the plants open.
Here is where I differ with what is happening and likely being proposed. Trump and the GOP are probably not considering for one minute, the safety of laborers. They are considering only the supply of food to their constituents AND the loss of revenue to the companies.
What I think should happen is that the safety needs of the workers should be paramount. They should be given ALL of the equipment they need to remain safe and all the training to use the equipment safely. They should also be provided testing and medical care, FREE OF COST during this time period. Second, they need HAZARD PAY, meaning they should get substantially more money than their typical salary based on the risk they are taking. Third, profits for the companies should be the least priority in this situation. Keeping the food supply safe and flowing should be considered a national priority, therefore any subsidies should go toward safety, the workers, and maintaining the flow of food. Salaries of executives should be locked, and stock prices should be stabilized not maximized.
Mopar151
(9,992 posts)gibraltar72
(7,510 posts)Forcing people to go into unsafe or deadly conditions is not the way to do it. All the precautions are voluntary not mandatory. People are gonna die. That is the point.
Caliman73
(11,744 posts)Those are called...Externalities. The cost of doing business passed on to others.
roamer65
(36,747 posts)Cant say I would blame them if they do.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Is he going to force them to still ship stuff even if they are on their deathbed?
Rae
(84 posts)I think the truckers will be Ok. It's the ultimate social distancing job.