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https://www.tampabay.com/news/health/2020/04/29/florida-medical-examiners-were-releasing-coronavirus-death-data-the-state-made-them-stop/Predictable.
spanone
(135,863 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,034 posts)Nululu
(842 posts)Similar problems throughout the country where the are identified as covid dead if they had a positive test.
Many people will be undercounted. In NYC they had ten times their normal at home deaths. Anything above normal is a covid death.
Now we know it impacts heart, brain, kidneys lungs and the extent of death and disability will be far greater than what politicians are saying. It should left to coroners and medical professionals.
I am so tired of these jerks politicizing death. Trying to "spin" outcomes.
captain queeg
(10,238 posts)George Orwell nailed it. Maybe Im thinking of that movie, Brazil.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)Chainfire
(17,613 posts)then it is a clear violation of Florida's "Sunshine Laws."
Not that illegality means anything to De Satinist.
Igel
(35,350 posts)The underreporting was published on 4/9, I think it was. And amounted, on some days, up to 10% of the deaths.
The Florida website lists the number of deaths of residents.
The counties report the number of deaths of all people there, including non-residents like snowbirds.
There's the "severe under-reporting" and there's the cover up--one that's announced on the Florida website. So, yes, if somebody was paying attention it was predictable. Stated explicitly, in fact, both on their website and also in the news from a few weeks ago. More like "the sun has risen today" on a billboard than "the sun will rise tomorrow" spoken in a Zoom meeting. But it requires attention to detail.
It might be a lapse in reporting, however, because I don't know that the people's home states would record those deaths as COVID-related. I suspect that when the report's provided to the CDC all deaths in the state boundaries are included in because that follows CDC guidelines. Don't know if they include only test-confirmed COVID deaths or also clinically diagnosed deaths.
This article just points out that details are left out, which gets down to the amount of privacy the deceased should have, and whether it's okay to identify the dead by cause of death. If they're reported as COVID, that's enough for public use, depending on how the numbers are sliced and diced for statistical consumption later--broken down by comorbidity, age, race/ethnicity, sex, etc.
In some states getting access to that information is difficult because it's not just strangers' right to know versus the dead meat that dead people are often thought of. I needed next of kin's permission to get the death certificate for my aunt, who had priority as executor of my mother's will; as nephew I didn't have ranking for applying for a copy. She had died but the court in a different state required proof. Even then, the cause of death wasn't included on the copy they issued me, that field was blacked out.
My father's death certificate included cause of death. He officially died due to trauma to the head, and anybody could see that information. The coroner knew that the cause of death would be public information, and so didn't record that the trauma was a gunshot wound and that the trauma was self-inflicted.
mnmoderatedem
(3,728 posts)really really reeks
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Stallion
(6,476 posts)carry-on and report your death to your home state
bluestarone
(17,025 posts)In most EVERY FUCKING RETHUGLICON state
standingtall
(2,787 posts)in Georgia and Texas too.
kacekwl
(7,021 posts)to stop the count, again.