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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's OK to be not OK.
But for some people, the relentless focus on the bright side can go too far.
Psychologists, who coined the term toxic positivity, point out that the mind-over-matter message isnt always the right approach, especially when it ignores, suppresses or dismisses negative feelings caused by grief, trauma or mental illness.
Telling someone who is hurting to be positive is well-intentioned, but it backfires, said therapist Sherry Merriam. It asks people to stuff their very real feelings. It makes the people its supposed to help feel even worse.
Phoenix61
(17,018 posts)ignorant people have told me to be positive, my reply was Im positive this fucking sucks.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)choie
(4,111 posts)and not only relevant now, but all times when people are hurting.
Bayard
(22,128 posts)I can't stand to watch more than a few minutes of the news shows anymore....Rachel, Lawrence. All virus, all the time. Its just too much. But if I hear--We're all in this together, one more time--sharp objects may be hurled.
Lately, I've been watching old Quantum Leap reruns.
Golden Raisin
(4,612 posts)are pretty much 24/7 Corona. And now there are the endless "feel good --- we'll get through this" commercials. I seek out shows like "Big Bang Theory" for a pleasant break.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)the martyr in me, but it has never been easy. A dose of shame, and guilt comes with every attempt to express anger. That anger turns inward, and there you have your suicidal tendencies.
Wounded Bear
(58,698 posts)Humans have their ups and downs, and minimizing them can be "toxic positivity." I understand that term.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)100 miles round trip for radiation and chemo, always with a wait between the two, and someone would tell me to think positive, all I wanted was to see them after 2nd and 3rd degree burns covered their neck and they still had to sit through a round of chemo, hoping not to puke all over the place from the pain of it all. And knowing you still had to drive yourself home.
There is such a thing as clueless niceness. If you don't know what to say - that just might be a clue not to say anything. Your awkward discomfort is your problem. Please don't force people in pain or in a bad way to make you feel better about it all.
A simple smile, a brief hand squeeze, or just listening is all that is needed a lot of the time.
Don't get me wrong, it's not all positive talk - it's the perpetually chirpy positive talk. The positive talk that serves only to talk over the pain someone is feeling.
Sure, to others it might seem like you're being caring but the truth is your positivity comes off as polite but meaningless chitchat, or worse, denial of the situation.
And, hey - thanks for listening.
Behind the Aegis
(53,976 posts)I will "tell" you one thing, you should have included one of your beautiful original photographs; let others see you already possess an insane amount of inner strength, which comes out in the beauty and creativity of your photography!
Just know that was sincere and hope it didn't come as "chirpy positive". As someone who more pessimist-realist, than an optimist, I do understand what you are saying. Sometimes, we, as people, need to feel all our feelings, not just the "positive" ones. Today, I avoided a panic attack by not stifling my feelings of anger, dismay, and I don't know what; I just "went with" my feelings.
Oh, and one more...
Solly Mack
(90,780 posts)always genuine.
I can say the same of others on DU. Don't want them to feel I was talking about them.
I was talking about the people I came across going to and fro treatment.
You're absolutely right. Sometimes, we just gotta feel it all. The good and the bad. To give ourselves permission to feel the bad and to do so without apology.
Thanks, about my photography. Collecting animal photos at the moment. All the ones that come into my yard. In time I'll share them.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)And I get so sick of it.
And she's falling for conspirasies and thinks positive thinking affects quantum physics. She's been pushy with positive think and it's getting on my last nerve,oh and she thinks she's immune to covid. She wears a mask and distances. She tried to say I was immune because I had the shits for one day. Aaargh.
She's taking the slow boat to stupidville. And if I point out she's wrong she says I'm telling her I think she's stupid and gets defensive..but on some things she IS stupid. She does bothsiderism and calls herself an indeepeenndant.. fuck.