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brooklynite

(94,670 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:14 AM Apr 2020

Here's Proof Trump Knows He's Losing

Political Wire

Trump’s internal polls also show him losing Ohio, Iowa and all of Maine. That would boost Biden’s electoral margin to 358 to 180.

Of course, Trump told Reuters he doesn’t believe the polls.

Do you want proof these numbers are correct? Trump isn’t planning trips to Wisconsin. Michigan or Pennsylvania next week. He’s hitting the road to defend Arizona and Ohio, NBC News reports.

If Trump loses either of those two states, he likely loses the election in a landslide.
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Here's Proof Trump Knows He's Losing (Original Post) brooklynite Apr 2020 OP
I read an article that posits that there is no electoral math, none, that has Trump Aristus Apr 2020 #1
It looks like Trump will struggle badly here. Mike 03 Apr 2020 #9
Is Gov Douchy trying to lock Trump out? lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #20
Governor Douchebag* knows how to read a room... Raster Apr 2020 #34
Having Mark Kelly on the ballot in November is a real plus gristy Apr 2020 #37
Yes. Even more encouraging is that Texas seems to be in play. drray23 Apr 2020 #2
I think it IS their biggest. Aristus Apr 2020 #15
He needs to stay away from Maine. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2020 #3
Ha, NIMBY. JudyM Apr 2020 #4
LiePage is already threatening to run again. That's enough stress for now! GreenPartyVoter Apr 2020 #5
I thought he moved to Florida? rurallib Apr 2020 #7
But wants the Blaine House back, and constitution says he can do it. GreenPartyVoter Apr 2020 #8
Here is the Orange anus defeat. Wellstone ruled Apr 2020 #6
Trump mentioned opening a bunch of steel mills a couple of years ago Submariner Apr 2020 #10
Pittsburgh isn't doing badly without the steel. moonseller66 Apr 2020 #22
I love Philly and Pittsburgh is cool too, but in between it's knows as "Pennsyltucky." OMGWTF Apr 2020 #26
If people vote IronLionZion Apr 2020 #11
I am high risk and I've always voted in person Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #17
I'll be there with mask and hand sanitizer or whatever IronLionZion Apr 2020 #18
I worked with some Ohioans who HATE Trump... Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #12
Trump in heap big trouble if loses OH bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #13
Reason and logic are not gone. Those two are hiding. In September they Stuart G Apr 2020 #24
Trump will make Fundie rallies & tell people they should be grateful he helped them survive COVID-19 bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #28
Why are we do polarized? It's because of Fux News and Reicht-winged hate radio lying to the rubes. OMGWTF Apr 2020 #27
Will Trump wear a mask in the Honeywell building? gab13by13 Apr 2020 #14
can you imagine how much the numbers will jump after one of his Nazi rallies? Marrah_Goodman Apr 2020 #16
Electoral-vote's tally today has it at 390-148. eggplant Apr 2020 #19
That's an optimistic one - Texas and Florida and North Carolina and Ohio going (D)! bucolic_frolic Apr 2020 #29
"Wear iron horseshoes" - a brazillion thanks for THAT: Made my day. n/t MFGsunny Apr 2020 #31
Can you please explain this expression? n/t EndlessWire Apr 2020 #43
Why the hell is CO "barely Democrat" on that site? hlthe2b Apr 2020 #35
Their scoring is based on averages of the most recent polls and is automated. eggplant Apr 2020 #46
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2020 #21
The lies have piled up on top one pile after another. Trump will lose, thats all that matters. Stuart G Apr 2020 #23
The bodies have piled up on top one pile after another. Trump will lose, thats all that matters. lagomorph777 Apr 2020 #36
This is great and all WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2020 #25
Not in Ohio, from what I remember. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2020 #33
I don't see how he can win. mwb970 Apr 2020 #30
Thanks for this glimmer of hope on an otherwise gloomy day. NoRoadUntravelled Apr 2020 #32
His administration's weird punishment of China is more evidence Politicub Apr 2020 #38
great point -- I think Arizona is going to be very tough on him this time around fishwax Apr 2020 #39
Is a basketball team in charge of the refs, the scoreboard, and the rules of the game wiggs Apr 2020 #40
AZ and OH ferguson97 Apr 2020 #41
My prediction. NCjack Apr 2020 #42
I think so too. He won't be able to face the possibility of being voted out captain queeg May 2020 #49
Yeah trump is losing. You can tell by the desperate smears. rockfordfile Apr 2020 #44
I wanna see that fuckstick go down IN FLAMES Blue Owl Apr 2020 #45
White voters over 60 allegedly leaving him in droves Cetacea May 2020 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2020 #48

Aristus

(66,434 posts)
1. I read an article that posits that there is no electoral math, none, that has Trump
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:17 AM
Apr 2020

winning without Arizona. I mean, he almost certainly can't win without Texas and/or Florida, but those seem less likely to turn blue this election cycle.

After I read that, I donated to the Arizona DNC.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
9. It looks like Trump will struggle badly here.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:58 AM
Apr 2020

McSally is losing to Mark Kelly in recent polling and fundraising. I'm not even sure McSally is campaigning. She ran one desperate ad calling Mark Kelly a "Bernie Bro" in early March and seemed to drop off the map after that.

Yesterday, Governor Ducey took what I interpret as actions to distance himself from Trump by extending our lockdown hours after Trump announced a visit here. He said our state isn't ready to reopen.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
34. Governor Douchebag* knows how to read a room...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 01:49 PM
Apr 2020

... er, state... and knows that the reign of the #OrangeAnus has not been good for Rethuglicans* in Arizona. We have had enough.

gristy

(10,667 posts)
37. Having Mark Kelly on the ballot in November is a real plus
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:12 PM
Apr 2020

Folks will have multiple reasons to turn out in November.

drray23

(7,636 posts)
2. Yes. Even more encouraging is that Texas seems to be in play.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:17 AM
Apr 2020

that's a slam dunk if Biden takes Texas. Its one of the biggest EV states for the GOP. Without it , they can't make it work.

Aristus

(66,434 posts)
15. I think it IS their biggest.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:24 PM
Apr 2020

The most electoral votes, and the only Red State (I think) that pays out more in taxes than it takes in in Federal benefits.

If the repukes lose Texas, they may as well fold the Party's tents...

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Here is the Orange anus defeat.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:39 AM
Apr 2020

The shear number of deaths do to his Vengeance will be proportional to the number of States he loses.

Small Town America will or is having issues with the reality of how do we fix our image after all the death we have just witnessed. They know it is going to hit them where they never expected,in the pocket book. Not in my back yard has come home to roost.

Submariner

(12,506 posts)
10. Trump mentioned opening a bunch of steel mills a couple of years ago
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:05 PM
Apr 2020

so Pittsburgh and other rust belt cities must be doing fine.

moonseller66

(430 posts)
22. Pittsburgh isn't doing badly without the steel.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:47 PM
Apr 2020

It has developed a newer ideal toward tech. And doing well with it.

And if by opening steel mills, trump never said they'd be making steel, just opening...many are just the backdrops for movies and tv shows.

The Political Problem with Pennsylvania isn't Pittsburgh or Philly, it's the uneducated, brain-washed, genetic descendant rednecks from the center and northern parts of the state. But that is changing somewhat.

IronLionZion

(45,491 posts)
11. If people vote
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:07 PM
Apr 2020

They don't want us to have mail in ballots so we can all weigh the dilemma of risk death to stand in long lines on election day or stay home.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
17. I am high risk and I've always voted in person
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:29 PM
Apr 2020

This year I think I will get an absentee ballot. If for any reason I can't, I will be standing in line to vote him out, regardless of any risks.

IronLionZion

(45,491 posts)
18. I'll be there with mask and hand sanitizer or whatever
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:33 PM
Apr 2020

but would prefer if we could all vote by mail like some sensible states have already shown is quite possible.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
12. I worked with some Ohioans who HATE Trump...
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:11 PM
Apr 2020

... that didn’t vote in 2016.

They seemed motivated to get him out this time.

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
13. Trump in heap big trouble if loses OH
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:22 PM
Apr 2020

Hard to believe the election will be decided on only 6-7 states. AZ FL OH PA WI NC maybe ME. And of those 7, I'd only count PA and WI likely Democratic. I'll believe AZ NC OH when I see it, and FL? Do they count, barter, trade, or some combination?

Why are we so polarized? Where did reason and logic go?

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
24. Reason and logic are not gone. Those two are hiding. In September they
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:52 PM
Apr 2020

will appear and take our side. I think Trump will lose by a HUGE MARGIN!!!!!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
28. Trump will make Fundie rallies & tell people they should be grateful he helped them survive COVID-19
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 01:09 PM
Apr 2020

He will try to shame the public into voting for him. At every turn he pivots and surprises, he is a greasy fat Slick Trumpie!

bucolic_frolic

(43,249 posts)
29. That's an optimistic one - Texas and Florida and North Carolina and Ohio going (D)!
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 01:12 PM
Apr 2020

I mean, we'd all have to wear iron horseshoes for that to happen

eggplant

(3,912 posts)
46. Their scoring is based on averages of the most recent polls and is automated.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:07 PM
Apr 2020

The methodology they use is right on the site. They do no interpretation of the data, just render it from the polling data they use. The numbers are completely separate from any commentary they also publish.

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
25. This is great and all
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 12:59 PM
Apr 2020

But let's not forget that Hillary was supposed to blow him out of the water. It's been attributed to a number of different people a number of different ways, but it's true regardless...it doesn't matter who votes, what matters is who counts the votes.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
33. Not in Ohio, from what I remember.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 01:32 PM
Apr 2020

I was so disappointed in Ohio polling for too many months, there’s no way that the polls were optimistic about her chances here.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
38. His administration's weird punishment of China is more evidence
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:18 PM
Apr 2020

The putrid narcissist wants something, anything to get people to love him. It’s his primary driver. By punishing immigrants, “China,” women and blue states, he believes he can draw people to him.

The tone-deaf and callous handling of the pandemic is the linchpin to his unraveling.

fishwax

(29,149 posts)
39. great point -- I think Arizona is going to be very tough on him this time around
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:23 PM
Apr 2020

Texas has been polling in the margin of error, and the latest poll has Biden ahead, so he's going to have to invest in Texas as well.

Of course, forcing the meat plants to stay open means likely spreading the disease among immigrant, minority, and likely democratic-leaning communities. Which might actually make a difference in a state like that.

A lot can happen in the next 6 months, but it's good to have some optimism to help us all fight on!

wiggs

(7,816 posts)
40. Is a basketball team in charge of the refs, the scoreboard, and the rules of the game
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:25 PM
Apr 2020

with no intention of following any of them really concerned about the pre-game score prediction?

ferguson97

(5 posts)
41. AZ and OH
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 02:32 PM
Apr 2020

I don't think Trump will lose Ohio (it will be close) but if he does, it's over. I think Biden probably wins Arizona though.

It's good that we're making the GOP have to keep Arizona and Ohio. Trump can't win without them!

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
42. My prediction.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 03:01 PM
Apr 2020

"By 1945 he [Hitler] reached the conclusion that the entire German people had proved unworthy of him; they too should perish.' (R. G. L. Waite. "Adolf Hitler's Guilt Feelings: A Problem in History and Psychology." The Journal of Interdisciplinary History. Vol. 1, No. 2 (Winter, 1971), pp. 229-249)

When Trump realizes that he will lose the election, he will hold the Republican Party guilty of not making the persuasive case for his election and the general public guilty for not voting for him. He will examine the paths to punish all of the guilty.

That is the reason that I think he will resign in mid-October. It will screw the GOP donors and leadership, all GOP candidates, and his base. In his mind, he will also think it screws America.

captain queeg

(10,224 posts)
49. I think so too. He won't be able to face the possibility of being voted out
Fri May 1, 2020, 04:34 AM
May 2020

In a historic landslide. And I think your comparison with Hitler and him deciding the country is unworthy is a apt comparison. Just need Donny to step up use of whatever drugs he’s been snorting and go way off the deep end.

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