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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,033 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:24 PM Apr 2020

Trump shocked to learn he might not win reelection

Trump does not like to hear bad news. By all accounts, in private the people who work for him are required to deliver to him a version of the rhetoric he offers to the public: Everything is great; you’re setting records; nobody’s ever seen anything so amazing. When they don’t, he becomes extremely unhappy, as he did recently after aides presented him with “grim polling data … to encourage him to reduce the frequency of coronavirus briefings or to stop taking questions, after seeing his numbers slip for several weeks,” according to reporting by The Post and other news organizations.

Worst of all, internal polls from the RNC and his reelection campaign showed him trailing former vice president Joe Biden, the likely Democratic nominee, in swing states:

Aides described Trump as in a particularly foul mood last week because of the polling data and news coverage of his administration’s response to the pandemic, according to two of the people familiar with the discussions. In one call, he berated [campaign manager Brad] Parscale over the polling data, the two people said.
Other reports describe Trump “shouting” or “erupt[ing]” at Parscale and blaming the campaign manager for his poor standing, because it couldn’t possibly be Trump’s own fault. “I am not f---ing losing to Joe Biden,” he reportedly said. Yet the reality is that he will probably trail Biden in polls from here to November, though that doesn’t mean he’s going to lose.

There’s something unusual in the story of Trump reacting so strongly to this “grim” polling data from his advisers. For the entirety of the primary campaign, in trail heats Trump has run behind not only Biden but the other Democrats who ran for president as well. Him trailing Biden would not be news to his campaign, or even to Trump himself, despite his ample powers of denial. Which means that those polls must have been really bad for Trump.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/trump-shocked-to-learn-he-might-not-win-reelection/ar-BB13qyko?li=BBnb7Kz

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Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
1. Surprise Parties!
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:28 PM
Apr 2020

Surprise! Your losing!

Oh how delicious it would be to hear the audio of his rampages. Sweet music to the ears, in a sense. The real thing, instead of the phony on the stage.

Trenzalore

(2,331 posts)
2. Trump was predicting victory until Election Day 2018
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:36 PM
Apr 2020

When republicans lost he blamed others.

There is a core 40% that will support him no matter what. That 10% in the middle that tolerated him as long as the economy was doing great has disappeared.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
3. Reminds me of that Youtube scene where Hitler is told that he is losing the war.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:37 PM
Apr 2020

Eerily similar. Hitler may have been more rational.

Marrah_Goodman

(1,586 posts)
5. He wavered between total denial and depression
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:53 PM
Apr 2020

He would order movements of armies that had been wiped out.... He was pretty drug addled by that point. Then he did the world a favor and offed himself.

Trump behaves like a 4 year old throwing a tantrum. Always has, always will.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
7. tRUMP can't be "re-elected" since he was never "elected" in 2016. Never forget that he was
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 08:59 PM
Apr 2020

ratufcked into office and ratfucking is the only way the reTHUGS win.

renate

(13,776 posts)
9. I don't understand why the people around him don't just tell him he's totally going to win
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 09:12 PM
Apr 2020

I guess I admire their courage, if nothing else about them, for telling him the truth.

Once he loses, he'll be essentially useless to them, so staying in his good graces is pointless. So what do they have to gain from telling him the truth? Just let him find out on election day, and scatter like so many roaches when he explodes.

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
10. The word for tonight is "illogic", boys and girls - from the article . . .
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 09:23 PM
Apr 2020

EDIT

Of course, there are things we can’t anticipate that might alter the race: a shocking revelation, a campaign meltdown, a foreign crisis, a second wave of covid-19 infections. But in the end, nearly all Democrats will stick with Biden and nearly all Republicans will come home to Trump. Even if the economy fails to recover significantly by November, the race will still be close, which means that no outcome is assured. It took an extraordinary confluence of factors to enable Trump’s electoral college victory in 2016, but it’s entirely possible something similar will happen this year.

In our polarized era, there will be no blowouts on the order of Ronald Reagan’s 18-point margin in 1984 or Richard Nixon’s 23-point win in 1972. A blowout would be more like the 7-point win Barack Obama managed in 2008 — and that required a hugely unpopular departing Republican president, a disastrous war, and a collapsing economy.

Right now we’re in the midst of a pandemic being grossly mismanaged by the president and an economic crisis even worse than what was in progress in 2008. The fact that Trump isn’t trailing by 15 or 20 points shows how resilient partisan attachments are; while there are certainly Republicans who could abandon Trump, as a proportion of the entire electorate their numbers are relatively small. And I’d remind you that Hillary Clinton led Trump in polls for almost the entirety of the 2016 campaign (and, of course, she did end up winning the popular vote by 2 points — very close to what polls had predicted).

EDIT

I mean, seriously there's a lot of contained in just three paragraphs.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
11. He's just like Anthony Fremont, the 6-year old in "It's A Good Life"
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 09:42 PM
Apr 2020

The Twilight Zone episode where everyone had to think good thoughts and say good things or they'd be 'sent to the cornfield', or worse:

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