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Trump does not like to hear bad news. By all accounts, in private the people who work for him are required to deliver to him a version of the rhetoric he offers to the public: Everything is great; youre setting records; nobodys ever seen anything so amazing. When they dont, he becomes extremely unhappy, as he did recently after aides presented him with grim polling data
to encourage him to reduce the frequency of coronavirus briefings or to stop taking questions, after seeing his numbers slip for several weeks, according to reporting by The Post and other news organizations.
Worst of all, internal polls from the RNC and his reelection campaign showed him trailing former vice president Joe Biden, the likely Democratic nominee, in swing states:
Aides described Trump as in a particularly foul mood last week because of the polling data and news coverage of his administrations response to the pandemic, according to two of the people familiar with the discussions. In one call, he berated [campaign manager Brad] Parscale over the polling data, the two people said.
Other reports describe Trump shouting or erupt[ing] at Parscale and blaming the campaign manager for his poor standing, because it couldnt possibly be Trumps own fault. I am not f---ing losing to Joe Biden, he reportedly said. Yet the reality is that he will probably trail Biden in polls from here to November, though that doesnt mean hes going to lose.
Theres something unusual in the story of Trump reacting so strongly to this grim polling data from his advisers. For the entirety of the primary campaign, in trail heats Trump has run behind not only Biden but the other Democrats who ran for president as well. Him trailing Biden would not be news to his campaign, or even to Trump himself, despite his ample powers of denial. Which means that those polls must have been really bad for Trump.
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Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)Surprise! Your losing!
Oh how delicious it would be to hear the audio of his rampages. Sweet music to the ears, in a sense. The real thing, instead of the phony on the stage.
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)When republicans lost he blamed others.
There is a core 40% that will support him no matter what. That 10% in the middle that tolerated him as long as the economy was doing great has disappeared.
RDANGELO
(3,433 posts)Eerily similar. Hitler may have been more rational.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)He would order movements of armies that had been wiped out.... He was pretty drug addled by that point. Then he did the world a favor and offed himself.
Trump behaves like a 4 year old throwing a tantrum. Always has, always will.
CatWoman
(79,302 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,666 posts)abqtommy
(14,118 posts)ratufcked into office and ratfucking is the only way the reTHUGS win.
renate
(13,776 posts)I guess I admire their courage, if nothing else about them, for telling him the truth.
Once he loses, he'll be essentially useless to them, so staying in his good graces is pointless. So what do they have to gain from telling him the truth? Just let him find out on election day, and scatter like so many roaches when he explodes.
hatrack
(59,587 posts)EDIT
Of course, there are things we cant anticipate that might alter the race: a shocking revelation, a campaign meltdown, a foreign crisis, a second wave of covid-19 infections. But in the end, nearly all Democrats will stick with Biden and nearly all Republicans will come home to Trump. Even if the economy fails to recover significantly by November, the race will still be close, which means that no outcome is assured. It took an extraordinary confluence of factors to enable Trumps electoral college victory in 2016, but its entirely possible something similar will happen this year.
In our polarized era, there will be no blowouts on the order of Ronald Reagans 18-point margin in 1984 or Richard Nixons 23-point win in 1972. A blowout would be more like the 7-point win Barack Obama managed in 2008 and that required a hugely unpopular departing Republican president, a disastrous war, and a collapsing economy.
Right now were in the midst of a pandemic being grossly mismanaged by the president and an economic crisis even worse than what was in progress in 2008. The fact that Trump isnt trailing by 15 or 20 points shows how resilient partisan attachments are; while there are certainly Republicans who could abandon Trump, as a proportion of the entire electorate their numbers are relatively small. And Id remind you that Hillary Clinton led Trump in polls for almost the entirety of the 2016 campaign (and, of course, she did end up winning the popular vote by 2 points very close to what polls had predicted).
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I mean, seriously there's a lot of contained in just three paragraphs.
SeattleVet
(5,477 posts)The Twilight Zone episode where everyone had to think good thoughts and say good things or they'd be 'sent to the cornfield', or worse: