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The River

(2,615 posts)
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:31 PM Apr 2020

There Are Over 500 Posts

on the subject of "Reade". That's just on DU.
There are over 20 million links internet wide.
I saw it as a dirty trick hit job when it first came out
and dismissed it. Unfortunately, it lives on thanks to
a gossip thirsty media. This non story is being amplified everywhere
now by "social" media. It's exactly what Republicans and Trump want.
We're going to beat this "dead horse" of a story in the name of
"fairness" until Joe is covered in blood come November.

Welcome to "her emails" version 2020.

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There Are Over 500 Posts (Original Post) The River Apr 2020 OP
Might as well be the Swift Boat Veterans. Laelth Apr 2020 #1
thanks for starting another one Kali Apr 2020 #2
one suspects she thanks those who promote her and her charges nt msongs Apr 2020 #3
+1, the fact that she's giving an "interview" on Fox R B Garr May 2020 #21
Trashed and unrecced LW1977 Apr 2020 #4
Agree Thekaspervote May 2020 #22
Trashed...enough Demsrule86 Apr 2020 #5
Who? What? BigmanPigman Apr 2020 #6
Only if it isn't countered with "Grab Her by Her Pussy" everytime, with tape. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2020 #7
It's also being debunked Joinfortmill Apr 2020 #8
Bernie Sanders can put a stop to this DenverJared Apr 2020 #9
Wow, he must be pretty powerful. progressoid May 2020 #12
Didn't you see the other threads? rwsanders May 2020 #18
Fox/Limbaugh audience is never going to vote for Biden DenverJared May 2020 #19
I just saw an article saying the accusation is credible in the first paragraph, betsuni Apr 2020 #10
I trashed that name here Dem2 Apr 2020 #11
This isn't 2004 or 2016 Sugarcoated May 2020 #13
Trumps using media to spread his propaganda duforsure May 2020 #14
Yep... kentuck May 2020 #15
And I haven't read one malaise May 2020 #16
Over in the Science Section, I posted about the Global Disinformation Index. NNadir May 2020 #17
More Like Swiftboating Of John Kerry DallasNE May 2020 #20
Nothing new here. Aussie105 May 2020 #23
Thank you. BlueMTexpat May 2020 #24
'Licans have cranked the amp up too high, too soon... MrModerate May 2020 #25
Trump was impeached because ? Wash. state Desk Jet May 2020 #26
No, I think you're wrong PJMcK May 2020 #27
Mika on Morning Joe didn't apologize but slow walked the story back, pretty much showing Hestia May 2020 #28
TRUMP DIRTY POLITICS blakstoneranger May 2020 #29

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
1. Might as well be the Swift Boat Veterans.
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 10:35 PM
Apr 2020

Nothing new. Our candidates always get “swiftboated.” The media needs a horserace for ratings. Our candidate is usually sane. Our opposition is usually not, so the media tips the scales in favor of the insane one—just to keep up the horserace.

Sigh.

-Laelth

Joinfortmill

(14,428 posts)
8. It's also being debunked
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:06 PM
Apr 2020

She needs help. Lies, so many lies. Multiple accusations against different people, and taking the Biden accusation from a book her father wrote. She could be sued if she doesn't cease.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
9. Bernie Sanders can put a stop to this
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:07 PM
Apr 2020

He must be privy to gossip and rumors from his supporters to use this story to hurt Biden. Bernie can give a press release on how TYT and Katie Halper did this deliberately to hurt Biden and to help him and now they can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.

 

DenverJared

(457 posts)
19. Fox/Limbaugh audience is never going to vote for Biden
Fri May 1, 2020, 07:58 PM
May 2020

But some extreme supporters of Bernie won't either with the fig leaf of the Tara Reade fraud.

Bernie is powerful when it comes to his own supporters.

betsuni

(25,537 posts)
10. I just saw an article saying the accusation is credible in the first paragraph,
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:15 PM
Apr 2020

and the entirety of the rest is about Biden's "long-term buddy" Chris Dodd and HIS "party boy" buddy Ted Kennedy and sexual assault allegations against the two of them.

Because Chris Dodd is one of the people advising Biden on his Vice President choice. Guilt by association.

Supposedly a "progressive" site.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
11. I trashed that name here
Thu Apr 30, 2020, 11:43 PM
Apr 2020

Not gonna play.

If Rump can ignore over a dozen cases,

if Kavanaugh can get onto the supreme court,

then I can ignore a case where the person's story has changed significantly over time.

Sugarcoated

(7,724 posts)
13. This isn't 2004 or 2016
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:22 AM
May 2020

Kerry wasn't running against a psychopathic who got off on other's suffering who shows no empathy, Bush wasn't this bad. Hillary didn't run away with it because we underestimated how disliked she was and many said, 'nah', thinking like almost every rational human in the country a reality show barker who mocks the disabled, vets and ADMITTED he assaults women, couldn't possibly get elected. This colossal fuck up for the ages, so much more death, destruction of the economy and our way of life because of his ignorance and greed is the straw. Everyone sees it, everyone witnessed the daily "I'm gonna fuck with your heads and terrorize you" briefing. I've seen the comments responding to the Reade tale on social media (all but Twitter which is overrun by berners out for revenge), regular non political junkies are saying a resounding "NOPE". I'm very pleased to see most are not buyin this obvious political hit job. A vast majority of Americans aren't playing this game anymore and will put on hazmat suits and wait in line all day to kick that trash to the curb where it belongs.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
14. Trumps using media to spread his propaganda
Fri May 1, 2020, 05:13 AM
May 2020

And has them everywhere posting pro reopening , and anti Biden stories and claims, all propaganda , just like he did to Hillary and others. This is a pr campaign using groups to make it look like its widespread protest when it isn't, and many are attacking Biden to do a Hillary number on him the same way . trump manufactured someone accusing him, and tried to do it with Ukraine , but got caught at it. Wonder how much she's been paid?

NNadir

(33,525 posts)
17. Over in the Science Section, I posted about the Global Disinformation Index.
Fri May 1, 2020, 04:47 PM
May 2020

The post is here: The Global Disinformation Index:

An interesting section involves the way the "Anti-5G" movement got started, claiming that 5G phones cause cancer.

I invite interested parties to review the most interesting Adversarial Narrative section at that website]

Some excerpts on how insane beliefs acquire credibility simply by repeating them via paranoid innuendo:


July 26, 2016: Twelve days after the FCC vote, InPower Movement, ‘an open source and crowd-funded movement’ with 9.3K YouTube subscribers, uploaded ‘The Truth About 5G’. The video, which has been viewed over 112,000 times, asks YouTube users, ‘Is there a clandestine force working behind the scenes in the United States, censoring truth about the “5G” rollout? Watch this — then decide.’24...

...October 2017: The concept migrates to Reddit’s r/conspiracy, a popular subreddit featuring 870,000 members, where it gained increasing toxicity in a post titled “5G and the smart grid is the New World Order”.28...

...March 2018: In the United Kingdom, former footballer-turned-conspiracy theorist David Icke began weighing in, hosting an article on his website ‘5G: Harmful effects of a new technology’,32 which featured meta tags like mind control and technology. The author of the article, Jon Rappoport,33 would soon have a chance to traffc the narrative through another infuential mouthpiece, Alex Jones...

...May 2018: Other conspiracy communities like QAnon began to echo concerns about the negative impacts of 5G smart grids on personal health and the environment.36 Meanwhile, petitions like ‘Stop the Attempted Genocide of the American People with 5G Radiation Cell Towers’, posted to WhiteHouse.gov,37 or ‘Let’s Make America SAFE Again! No Small Cells in our Neighborhoods’,38 posted to Change.org, and ‘Stop 5G!’,39 posted to Avaaz.org, lent further credence to the notion that anti-5G sentiment was increasing in popularity in mainstream conversations.


May 31, 2018: RT America broadcast the frst of at least eight news segments preying upon concerns about 5G, ‘Cancer risk? 5G Wireless speeds could be dangerous’.40 For state-sponsored media operations like RT, the 5G narrative shows how countries like Russia can pick up on existing disinformation campaigns in an attempt to sow social discord and increase the perception of popularity of certain concepts or sentiments.41...

...May 21, 2019: Fox News Host Tucker Carlson raises the question: ‘Most of the debate over 5G is centred on China, whether its state-run companies have too much infuence in this strategically important feld. But there is another even more basic question that has yet to be answered, are 5G networks medically safe?’.46


Of course there was at the beginning, no evidence whatsoever that 5G and cancer were in any way related.

And so on...all the usual players and of course, the infamous "New World Order."

I think Joe Biden's statement is clear and unambiguous.

In a lecture I saw a few years back by the Princeton neuroscientist Sam Wang, he pointed out that a lie gains credibility not by examination of the facts, but by the number of times it is repeated, both by people who know its a lie and the liars themselves.

A word to the wise.

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
20. More Like Swiftboating Of John Kerry
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:23 AM
May 2020

There was no there there. It was a total smear and the corporate media wouldn't let go. With the email there was something there but it was terribly insignificant. Republican FBI Director James Comey wrongly resurfaced that 8 days before the 2016 election and elected Trump.

Aussie105

(5,401 posts)
23. Nothing new here.
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:35 AM
May 2020

It's just the good old anti-Democratic party machinery at work. Just the old smear thing.

Digging for dirt to 'prove' a Democratic candidate is not someone you should vote for. The story has holes in it, but never mind, push it for all it's worth on social media and of course the print and radio/TV media will play right along, because it keeps the eyeballs glued.
And people get paid to do so, Oh-My-God-the-horror! sells on both social media and more mainstream media.

But really? If this is all they have on Biden, they must be desperate.

Time to get the antidote out. Repeat all the things Trump has done wrong over the years. The real stuff, plenty of that, no need to invent anything.

Get the focus on that. Might be difficult, seeing Trump has been largely normalized, and Trump being a thickhead with two left feet is no longer news worthy.



BlueMTexpat

(15,369 posts)
24. Thank you.
Sat May 2, 2020, 06:35 AM
May 2020

I have refrained from posting any link related to this.

You may probably remember that Biden was never my first choice. But he IS my choice in November.

I will NOT participate in gaslighting or derailing his candidacy with this.

 

MrModerate

(9,753 posts)
25. 'Licans have cranked the amp up too high, too soon...
Sat May 2, 2020, 05:56 PM
May 2020

All they're going to do is burn the thing out. I give it a week before no one is talking about it.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
26. Trump was impeached because ?
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:05 PM
May 2020

Oh, yes looking for dirt- quid pro quo. Certainly it didn't end with impeachment. Leaves to question ,what does that woman think she stands to gain or what's the deal ? At this stage in her life, her career has no doubt come to a stand still or she has gone about as far as she ever will, unless what ? Again ,what's the deal . Seems to me she has the attention of mass media and by it the public here and global.But she cannot keep her story straight. Seems to me by what I read she praises Putin too. So, what's the deal ? Noth'en's fer noth'en so what does she expect to gain ? The thing of it is, this is not something we have never seen or experienced before, it's noth'en new but it is the republican way these days. Desperation is the key word. The issue itself is highly sensitive even in the politics of Trump,his enablers and his supporters.
So what's in it for Reade, quid pro quo. It it a book deal,
what could it be ?

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
27. No, I think you're wrong
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:15 PM
May 2020

Tara Reade would get one shot and she blew it way too early. Her story has collapsed and she'll be forgotten by July.

Bye, Felicia.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
28. Mika on Morning Joe didn't apologize but slow walked the story back, pretty much showing
Mon May 4, 2020, 05:20 PM
May 2020

Tara Reade to be a nutjob, showing all of her different social media appearances about this non-story. Seems she is trying to push her novel and MSM fell into it her web.

 

blakstoneranger

(333 posts)
29. TRUMP DIRTY POLITICS
Mon May 4, 2020, 09:34 PM
May 2020

The russians are helping trump spread this dumb story, but notice how no media outlet is questioning the creation of this story, all they care about is the gossip. Notice how no media outlet is bothering with E Jean Carrolls request for trumps DNA, none of the other 22 sexual harrassment accusers have been vetted they way biden's accuser has. LISTEN PEOPLE, THIS STORY IS BEING PUSHED BY RUSSIAN OPERATIVES WHO ARE ALLOWED TO OPERATE ON TRUMP'S BEHALF BECAUSE OF LACK OF ACTION BY THE JUSTICE DEPT (BARR). THEY ARE, ONCE AGAIN, "HELPING" TRUMP WIN. NEXT YOU'LL HEAR TRUMP ACCUSE THE SYSTEM OF BEING RIGGED IN FAVOR OF BIDEN. IT'S 2016 ALL OVER AGAIN AND IT HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACES.

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