Joe for the VP, you are kidding yourself. More than any candidate that ever ran for president, Obama knew that he would be held to an almost unimaginable standard of purity. If there were ANYTHING to this complaint at all, Joe would never have been Vice President.

She isn't a Trump lover but a crazy Bernie fanatic. She got butthurt about Sanders losing and made up these serious charges after her initial claim of feeling uncomfortable because of shoulder touching didn't prevent Biden from entering the race.
She's mostly hurting all the serious, legitimate cases by muddying the waters with made up bs. The next discussion about claims against Trump, including those of a 13 year old will be brushed away with whataboutism about her.

Asking why she didn't come out earlier is kind of missing the point. She came out in 2019 which would be fine if she didn't present a completely different story that she's selling now.

I have not been following this closely because It never made any sense to me. The first time I heard about this I did not believe it, so I stopped paying attention to it.

when you claim to be "progressive" and then start writing about how great the leader of the modern fascist global movement is. Putin is a far right-wing thug and he has done his level best to try to install like-minded people in governments worldwide. Look at the people he has backed.

Trump
La Pen
Modi
Bolsonaro
Assad

The list just goes on and on. He has backed right-wing proto-fascists who are in line with his own philosophies.

with Bernie’s devastating losses. Hmmm

won the primaries.. after years of praising him.

primary Biden crushes. She looks like the second string sent in after all the hair touching stories went nowhere. Now Tara’s story is going from harassment, to fingering to rape.

Good to see you, Cha!

Aloha & StaySafe!

It looks like Joe Biden did deny this in the most honorable way. Even when grilled with the same question repeatedly.

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The fact that there is no record of her supposed formal complaint against Biden is a main key, especially since it’s been said that she kept records of her employment from the 90’s.

I have records of someone who screwed me over years ago —a female — as I knew if she was a crazy liar about me that she would be a crazy liar about someone else and I have proof. If Reade was so wronged, she would have kept that written record. As it turns out, I got a knock on the door from a private investigator about my crazy liar experience, and I was glad to help the PI out. I still follow that case and will help when necessary.

Not to mention, Reade’s supposed complaint about Biden would have been used by the GOP long ago. Obama’s team would have surely found it.

It would seem if you have your work records you would also have an important copy of complaint you filed that no one can find.

I noticed something like a screaming red flashing light with sound effects, the whole thing sounds exactly like the sexual assault reported by Ms. Carroll last year.

So, knowing how this gang of criminals don't have enough imagination to come up with anything original, think Melanoma's plagiarizing Michelle Obama's speech, and overall projection of personal ills onto opponents, this recital of an assault is what -45 did to E Jean Carroll, not what Joe Biden would have done.

Anybody else notice that?

... off at the #ButteryMales shit that the M$M is doing.

in a ritzy NYC store

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/24/e-jean-carroll-alleged-trump-sexual-assault-newday-camerota-intv-vpx.cnn

said she had to “digest” what Biden said to Mika before she could respond. Bull! She needed time to consult with others backing this. Look how another attack crew completely exposed themselves with their two accusations about Biden at dinners he never attended.

After Ukraine bungle and getting caught, now this, one more and there's no way he can damage Biden to the degree necessary to knock him out of a sure win.

They'll keep trying but one trick pony show doesn't hold the public's interest like he would need it to so I think there will be desperate attempts to harm the Biden ticket but so far, nothing is working because we've seen this act so many times before. We need a functioning government and we don't have that because of the orange anus... and everybody knows it whether in denial or not.

She seems to be a troubled woman with a painful past. It's looking like her specific charges against Biden are not justified. But all of Brett Kavanaugh's accusers waited years till they came forward. At least a dozen Trump victims could have come forward during all the years he was making money and ratings on TV, and yet they didn't come forward.

The "So why didn't she speak up before now?" attack is blatantly misogynist and intentionally ignores the traumatic nature of this sort of crime.

It means you give a fair listen to accusations of sexual harassment and assault that we know are prevalent by powerful men in society. It means you don't hand wave away accusations that are politically inconvenient with old saws like "Why did she wait so many years?" when you know exactly why women wait years before coming forward with stories of physical and sexual assaults.

No one has a monopoly on abuse, and to insist that those questioning the veracity of what are increasingly non-credible claims are hurting the abused is manipulative and deceitful conduct that hurts the actual victims of abuse.

One can separate the veracity of the allegation from the nature of the allegation if one actually wants to uncover the truth.

and only came out with the accusation immediately after Biden effectively had the nomination wrapped up.

I can recall when I started seeing the first posts about it in the Primary forum, and I'm virtually certain that it was in the immediate aftermath of Super Tuesday.

That alone is enough to convince me that it's bogus crap.

We've seen people say the exact thing here many times over the years - when the person accused was a republican or some Hollywood person.

The "brain drain" of women on this site over the last five years has really turned this place in a bad direction once the feminism groups abandoned them.

Questioning the point of time when someone comes out is an unfair charge and the claim should be judged on its own.
We don't need to go there, it's a distraction and we open up ourselves to more attacks. We only need to let the record speak for itself and that is Reade saying one year ago that it wasn't sexual misconduct when she talked about shoulder touching and nothing else.

Exactly, if you're going to believe women, believe ALL women. Not just pick and choose depending on who is being accused.

LISTEN to all women is more like it.

... multiple times and in these cases that's been under reported.

Charges like these should be taken seriously and investigated. But let's not pretend that it's either all claims are true or all claims are false. That's a false dichotomy.

Well-meaning, good-hearted people who tend to the left need to learn not to allow their better natures to be taken advantage of by vicious scum on the right, and splinterest wreckers on the far left, who enlist them in their charges against figures of the center left, by exhorting them to 'be consistent' and telling them 'don't be hypocrites'. The proper response to attempts at this is a hearty "Fuck off! Nobody cares what a rancid piece of dogshit like you thinks!" Or words to that effect....

Only attack the enemy, the christo-fascist right.

Never, ever, attack people who are on your side.

If you want one quick reason why the right wing wields power well out of proportion to the popularity of its policies, it is that they adhere to this rule, and we on the left do not.


"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."

However, we don't seem to view women as human beings, do we? Just in terms of broad, sweeping generalizations because they are "all" one thing or the opposite. No nuance. For instance female candidates are "qualified" or they are "flawed," unlike men, who apparently can be both.

I look forward to the day when women are considered individuals, and one doesn's represent or speak for all women.

Yes, women may not process an assault for years but I feel they are often set up to lose on a national stage by ‘supporters’ who exploit them for potential political gain.

I also do not understand the blanket statement “believe women”. I’m a woman and active in the women’s movement my entire adult life but I’ve interacted with women who are frauds or mentally ill who harm others (intentionally or not) while trying to help themselves.

My bottom line has always been to give women the benefit of the doubt, listen to them, and then investigate before accusing anyone of anything.

she praised Biden for his violence against women legislation, then accuses him of violence.

Given how handsy Biden has been in the past, it's not hard to imagine how a woman who has been betrayed by people with authority and power to misconstrue something and perhaps even garble or misproject the memory over time.

Sexual harassment sexual abuse are complicated and mentally abusive crimes. I have friends who have been victims of more than one predator, because predators can often identify easy targets. As Reade's large number of accusation show, she has that kind of trouble pass. I hope she gets the help and the healing that she needs, after this incident is out of the public eye

a smirk on her face that wouldn’t seem to match the pain you are describing. I’ve come to understand she is a great fan of Putin, who murders all manner of folks who cross him, so again with the duplicity.

Now I’ve seen she is a Bernie supporter, so her delays in coming forward are also interesting timing. I saw a Tweet here that she deleted that referenced her interest in timing her accusations just right.

If he had run for President, some BS like this would have happened. But the Repukes were too busy trashing Hillary then, and they didn't have time to drag Joe through the mud.

After they gave up on trashing Biden's son (they were REALLY hoping for that one!) the Repukes are just getting so desperate. The deflection is ridiculous, because the Chump campaign is empty-handed now.

By the way, all they have is mud-slinging and it's going to get way worse by November. As much as I admire Elizabeth Warren, I didn't want to see her treated so shabbily the way they treated Hillary 4 years ago. I don't want to see a woman treated that way ever again. Hillary handled it well, but I hate witnessing how the Repukes treat women they consider a threat.

People are allowed to come out with this kind of stuff in their own time. I personally don't believe her, and would focus more on 1.) She claimed that she made a formal complaint about harassment to the senate personnel office. The Times could not find record of this existing. This would mean that there would need to be a bi-partisan conspiracy to "disappear" this record that would have escaped VP vetting, which requires a huge leap of faith. This one might be complicated because I don't think people realize how rigorous the vetting for this type of position would require. 2.) She emphasized last year that the problem wasn't with Biden himself but with his staff, that she said that this was NOT a story about sexual misconduct. The public deserves to have this mentioned more, as this is not merely just "leaving stuff out".

With Kerry and Swift Boating, they just stuck with it for months until some shit finally stuck.
With Hillary, it was her emails. Same thing.
This is their Biden game plan now.
The only question is if Americans are stupid enough to fall for it again and the answer to that is frightening.

She could have praised Obama without praising Biden. If your theory is correct, why do you think she did that?

Maybe once or twice before then?

I have no doubt that someone is paying her good money to trash Joe. I really doubt that this will sway any voters as a single unreported case does not begin to compare with the serial sex abuser-in-charge.

Isn't there a class-action type suit working its way through the Courts by dozens of women who have documented Trump's sexual assaults?

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Joy hit the nail on the head! That’s exactly what is going on here.

Thanks for posting this, Goth.

sidelined, and like covid, reappear at regular intervals as the NJs on the right and the left manufacture "evidence". As of now, Reade's story is looking fractured at best, and a tissue of lies, used to try and take Biden down to get Sanders installed, at worst. Democratic operatives should be doing a way better job of bringing her many contradictions to air, far more than they are doing, so that this gets baked in as another attempted Biden Takedown ASAP.

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