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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBiden handled the Morning Joe interview well. Mika made an ass of herself.
She kept pressing him, despite his repeated explanations, on releasing his Senate papers at the University of Delaware.
He explained that the plans to make those records public, once he was out of public office, changed when he decided to run for president.
Very clear explanation, but it didn't get through Mika's skull as she practiced her best serious/concerned face.
She did finally retreat to asking why those records couldn't just be searched for any mention of Tara Reade's name.
He asked her who would do the search.
(He knows, of course, that few people he could trust would be satisfactory to the media, especially RW media. And anyone searching who'd be approved by the media would be likely to leak anything they found interesting, whether or not it had anything to do with Tara Reade. And then the only way to refute any fake news leaks, or put any true but out-of-context details in perspective, would be to release ALL the records, for the media, especially RW media, to turn into headlines for the rest of the campaign.)
Very clear response from Biden, but serious, concerned Mika just couldn't understand it.
underpants
(182,829 posts)Could you imagine if she'd worked on her lost puppy look more
Watching after the 1 minute dramatic pause with sound down. Staff meeting call. The visual is pathetic. She looks like her puppy choked in her birthday cake.
Cha
(297,317 posts)how Biden feels after the "inquisition".. but as President he will have to handle more than Mika.
Funtatlaguy
(10,878 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,209 posts)Siwsan
(26,268 posts)She probably already had confidence in how Joe would answer the questions, anyway, so perhaps she had no worries about the questions, his answers, or her demeanor.
hlthe2b
(102,292 posts)madaboutharry
(40,212 posts)His denial was clear. I think he will be fine.
I think Mika was trying to come across even handed but instead came across like she was trying to impress her high school drama teacher. She didn't need the added emotion to ask questions.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Her EYES were hot and angry. I couldn't figure out where all the hostility was coming from. I agree that she shouldn't have gone easy on Joe (much as I like him), but she looked far beyond professional and really, really MAD! As long as Donald Trump, sits in the Oval Office, there is no room for these kinds of accusations about others in public life which spring up from often questionable women (in terms of their timing, if nothing else) decades after the alleged incidents. If Mika had some personal reason for going after Biden, it would have been interesting to hear, and she should have said so.
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Squinch
(50,955 posts)Jesus Christ.
SMFH
Polly Hennessey
(6,799 posts)a very unpleasant woman. What is wrong with that? It certainly fits Ms. Mika in this instance. I once had a math teacher who was a very unpleasant woman. Mika has no standing on womens issues after her fawning support of tRump. Being married to Scarborough doesnt help either.
Submariner
(12,504 posts)I read somewhere recently she makes the same salary as her hubby Joe, $8 mil a year.
Finally pay equity for the same level of work. She sighs a lot and sips her Starbucks as Joe speaks, but her poor dad is probably spinning in his grave at the shame she brings the Brzezinski name.
CaptYossarian
(6,448 posts)obamanut2012
(26,080 posts)Response to Squinch (Reply #19)
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Squinch
(50,955 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)First Chris Hayes and now Mike pretend like they think this story is worth exploring and very soon we'll start getting a more definitive and decisive debunking of Tara Reade, and they can then destroy the story but have "cover" because they initially took it seriously.
I just saw a DU post earlier this morning of someone promising that important journalists were soon to destroy Reade's credibility.
EDIT: Has CNN touched this story?
FoxNewsSucks
(10,434 posts)For Biden or anyone to expect to be able to just sweep this under the rug and it will stay there is absurd.
What you describe may be the best strategy, cover it, control the framing by bringing the story, then when it is clearly false completely destroy it.
I'm pretty disappointed by the posts here whining that Mika was "rude" or "made an ass of herself". I saw most of it and thought she was a lot more polite than what Fox, AM hate radio, OANN, or the tRump campaign will be. She also just stuck to the story as-is, with none of the embellishing or speculating that the right will do.
This needs to be handled and resolved now. We can't afford to have it still all over TV and Radio this fall, and have MF45 cracking finger-bang jokes at the debate
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)As much as I want Joe to win, I do have an immediate, visceral, and VERY negative reaction to *ANY* hiding, redaction, or other refusal to provide information. Democrat or Republican, Female or male, "no comment" = worst possible thing my imagination can come with, even regarding figures I like. All unknown data WILL be assumed to be a derogatory and evil as possible, be you spouse, parent, or public figure, just the way my mind works and I know I'm not alone; anything other than a full explication of 'who what when where why and how' means someone is lying to cover up. So taking it seriously and not just ignoring it will make any later debunking much more effective.
DeterDeter
(70 posts)wouldn't have anything. Most of the media didn't particularly want Biden to win because he didn't have a narrative that they considered "fresh" (they've been covering him for too long and find it boring). They know that releasing the records could perhaps give their lazy asses some minor interesting "process" stories. Mika, on the other hand, might just be stupid enough to not realize this.
Also, there has been way too much conflation regarding what "Tara's" (using that in quotations due to her various aliases) supposed complaint contained. She has said that it was about "sexual harassment", so it would shed no light on assault even if this imaginary complaint existed. If she did complain about something, I'm guessing it would be more that she felt "targeted/bullied by staff", and she maybe complained in general to staff, but had fibbed that into making a formal complaint to the senate personnel office. I've worked in offices with people who are not well. People who are pathological liars and emotionally manipulate people into trying to help them out. They are usually the people who are predators but they have a complex that "everyone is out to get them", and usually don't last too long in one place before people catch on to their game. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt on the first story in 2019 and felt some pings of sympathy, but I'm guessing even that mild version contained falsehoods.
Another gross part of the Release the Senate Files false postering is that I think that a lot of journalists are just sick of covering COVID at this point and are anxious to get back to something familiar. It's pretty pathetic that a country has become numb to an increasing death count.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)... which everyone knows is a NOTHING story.
Tara Reade's accusations will turn out to be nothing, except that some Roger Stone-type guy is behind the entire fabrication. Joe Biden will not be swift-boated. This just shows how empty-handed the Repukes really are. They've got nothing.
Maybe the bored journalists will start turning against the Repukes, wouldn't that be great?
The Mouth
(3,150 posts)HE saw what happened to Kerry.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)point? I thought it was clear enough for her to understand, but apparently it was too complex. She surely knows the difference between personnel records and files of positions, interaction with foreign leaders, etc. He had already said he requested Congress to search the archives for any complaints Reade had filed. Mika must have come into the conversation with a pre-conceived notion and he wasn't filling it.
I noticed in some comments yesterday on DU where Reade's narrative seemed to closely follow a novel her father had written. I found that interesting. I also get the feeling this attack on Biden closely follows other attacks by the Repukes in past campaigns and wonder if this isn't being brought to light by them? There is even a "Linda" that stepped forward as having discussed this charge with Reade. Coincidence, but interesting.
I suppose we should be prepared for many of these types of charges by the desperate Republican party. Trump's oldest son certainly has the imagination (and, probably experience) to come up with all kinds of scenarios. He seems to revel in his rhetoric and the campaign is definitely in serious trouble. Hopefully, it still holds that once Trump is out of office, he can be investigated on the many charges that have been brought forth. He won't have Barr to protect him.
R B Garr
(16,954 posts)similar narrative. Im just starting to follow this and hadnt heard that yet. It explains a lot.
Great post.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,841 posts)rickford66
(5,524 posts)Back then I had no access to cable TV (especially MJ) except for a few minutes in hotels when on sporadic business trips. From what I understand, she and Joe were pretty chummy with Trump.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Yesterday they were yammering that Biden "had to" address the situation. Tomorrow they'll insist that nothing was answered and that the questions continue to linger.
And here's the jarring thing for me: Remember the birther nontroversy? Hawai'i eventually broke open their vital records and published the original birth certificate rather than a state-certified copy. Didn't make any difference. A kajillion newly-minted "experts" contended that "layering" or some other arcane characteristic "proved" that the certificate had been tampered with. Now the yammerers are screaming for the opening of the Biden archive, and I suspect they'll be successful on that, as well When nothing they want to see turns up (because it doesn't exist), it will prove nothing to them, and those lingering questions will sit down to linger for a while longer.
Meanwhile, Trump's tax returns will continue to be tied up in court as the administration battles against a non-discretionary federal rule that says the IRS "shall" furnish any records requested by Congress unconditionally. Heard anything about that lately?
still_one
(92,219 posts)Here is a timeline of events, regarding Tara Reades actions toward both Joe Biden:
December 1992 August 1993 Tara Reade worked as a Senate aide in Joe Bidens office.
2009 Reade commended Biden for actions he has taken against domestic violence.
2017 Reade repeatedly attacked Putin and Russia on Twitter for election interference and for Russian legislation that legalized domestic violence.
2017 Reade repeatedly praised Joe Biden through tweets, retweets and likes on Twitter. On multiple occasions she boosts him for his work on helping end sexual assault.
2018 Reade claims she liked Russia since she left Washington DC (Over a decade ago), and praised Putin and Russia over and over again. She also directly praised Putin for his treatment of women in multiple articles.
January of 2019 Reade first begins talking about her sexual harassment allegations against Joe Biden on Twitter.
March, 2019 Reade continues to praise Putin.
April, 2019 Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT sexualization, but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a pretty lamp that is thrown away when its too bright. She also claimed that her story was not a story about sexual misconduct.
September 2019 Reade calls on Joe Biden to be investigated for his dealings with Ukraine.
January, 2020 Reade continues to praise Vladimir Putin on Twitter.
March, 2020 Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.
March, 2020 Reade tells Vox News that she started liking Putin and Russia in 2018 after watching Noam Chomsky, but no longer likes Putin after finding out about domestic violence in Russia. (note: in 2018 she claimed to have loved Russia since over a decade ago, and in 2017 she was posting tweets on her account related to Russias domestic violence.)
https://medium.com/%40eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460
OAITW r.2.0
(24,504 posts)I thought Joe did very well in handling this interview. A single case of a person's accusation, based on an unreported account of an event 27 years ago does not make a strong case of believability. Wonder why she wasn't making a case of this back when Obama picked Joe as his VP?
No sale.
Gothmog
(145,321 posts)Sugarcoated
(7,724 posts)like it was personal. Very unprofessional, IMO
rzemanfl
(29,565 posts)Squinch
(50,955 posts)still_one
(92,219 posts)complaint?
Does that even make sense?
Here is a timeline of events, regarding Tara Reades actions toward both Joe Biden:
December 1992 August 1993 Tara Reade worked as a Senate aide in Joe Bidens office.
2009 Reade commended Biden for actions he has taken against domestic violence.
2017 Reade repeatedly attacked Putin and Russia on Twitter for election interference and for Russian legislation that legalized domestic violence.
2017 Reade repeatedly praised Joe Biden through tweets, retweets and likes on Twitter. On multiple occasions she boosts him for his work on helping end sexual assault.
2018 Reade claims she liked Russia since she left Washington DC (Over a decade ago), and praised Putin and Russia over and over again. She also directly praised Putin for his treatment of women in multiple articles.
January of 2019 Reade first begins talking about her sexual harassment allegations against Joe Biden on Twitter.
March, 2019 Reade continues to praise Putin.
April, 2019 Reade comes forward with her original allegations against Biden, but says his actions were NOT sexualization, but rather compared his actions toward her as being demeaning and treating her like a pretty lamp that is thrown away when its too bright. She also claimed that her story was not a story about sexual misconduct.
September 2019 Reade calls on Joe Biden to be investigated for his dealings with Ukraine.
January, 2020 Reade continues to praise Vladimir Putin on Twitter.
March, 2020 Reade comes forward again, this time claiming that Joe Biden did sexually assault her in 1993.
March, 2020 Reade tells Vox News that she started liking Putin and Russia in 2018 after watching Noam Chomsky, but no longer likes Putin after finding out about domestic violence in Russia. (note: in 2018 she claimed to have loved Russia since over a decade ago, and in 2017 she was posting tweets on her account related to Russias domestic violence.)
https://medium.com/%40eddiekrassenstein/evidence-casts-doubt-on-tara-reades-sexual-assault-allegations-of-joe-biden-e4cb3ee38460
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)What did she do after that? Knowing that might help destroy her story even more.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Joe S said "all they have to do is a Google search of the records for her name."
I guess he's assuming all the records have been digitized.
DeterDeter
(70 posts)Joe and Mika were basically the only people in the media who were aggressively advocating for the resurrection of pervert Mark Halperin's career. I'm sure they also harbor resentment towards the allegations for their "buddy" Tom Brokaw, although I've since seen him on the network. This is personal for Mika, but not in the way that people think.
LiberalFighter
(50,950 posts)ashredux
(2,606 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)Biden has already asked them to search for anything related to Reade's employment.
bluescribbler
(2,117 posts)He kept telling her that any records referring to her would be in the Senate Archives, not at U Delaware, but she just didn't seem to get it.
niyad
(113,343 posts)kavanaugh. She whined about how mean everybody was to k. (Must have been watching different coverage than what I saw, which savaged Dr. Blaséy-Ford).
Cha
(297,317 posts)dajoki
(10,678 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)STOP WATCHING THAT SHIT
cwydro
(51,308 posts)Kept giving him this wide eyed innocent look.
Never a big fan, but seriously lost respect for her. I dont like Scarborough at all.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)Joe is cowering in fear about the Douchbag's "Morning Psycho" insult
ToxMarz
(2,169 posts)They have found a trove of documents and they can claim anything they wish is in them. They don't ever need to find anything, they just keep insisting whatever they wish was in them is there and is being hidden or hasn't been released yet.