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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoe Scarborough and Mika Brezinski.. maybe feeling some left heat..
and feeling they are being misunderstood... the interview this AM with VP Joe Biden, was hardball in a way they never did with Donald Trump.. they constantly gave that man a pass.. oh occasionally they would tell him that he had to clean up his act..but it was always with a wink wink and a grin grin..
Those of us who watched that, are very sensitive to how the press now treats VP Biden. Our memories are long and clear and we have the tapes..soooooo
As our media right and left think the game is afoot and they can clean up their act of ushering in the Trump (because his shenanigans so boosted people watching cable news) by taking it to VP Biden with a brick.. ummmmm no.. not going to work
Just my thoughts for the AM.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)she just does not listen to what the guest is saying.. I have seen her do that over and over again with any number of guests..
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Thought the interview was very awkward.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)ago...I think you have to be careful not to mix "I know I would never do something like that because I am not that kind of person" and "I don't remember". The former the only defense to an assault allegation. The latter a response to whether or not anyone reported something ?
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)to the answer to the last question she asked. You want to scream, back up back up.. did you hear what the person said.. She just keeps barreling straight ahead to whatever point she had drawn for herself or assumed.. and misses so much.. Joe is better at interviewing than she is.. not everyone has the skill.
uponit7771
(90,347 posts)jimfields33
(15,823 posts)Pretty much the worst day to do this. The weekend will have this story as only coronavirus is the main story. So a new shiny penny given this morning to news stations. Just great. Ugh.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)THEY NORMALIZED AGOLF TWITLER AND GAVE HIM FREE AIR TIME FOREVER.
FUCK THEM.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)but they really screwed the pooch in 2016 with how they handled Trump.. and now they want to get all of this out of their systems with Biden.. He handled it fine.. He will be very good at being President. He has that gift. I just wish he would stick with regular news programs and forget the morning talk shows...
The show was trash long before 2016.
It was the go-to place for Republican talking points. Even before they normalized Trump, they normalized the conditions that led to him.
You are entirely correct.
HarlanPepper
(2,042 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,154 posts)Republicans. They are pissed at Trump because Trump didn't give them cushy jobs in his administration.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)and they would have threaded the needle with Sec. Clinton..
jaxexpat
(6,833 posts)Never were so smart as they thought they were.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)While reporting the Tara Reade "story."
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)He is no deer in the headlights.. This one just does not have any legs.. there are so many holes in the story and it keeps changing.. Joe just needs to keep doing what he is doing..
Demsrule86
(68,586 posts)laughed at him during the entire primary... he will beat Trump and save the world despite the media's best efforts. I have no intention of watching MSNBC again...I am pissed at Chris, Ari, Todd and now Mika/Joe.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)There is almost a "gotta take him down at all costs to prove we are right" feel to this.. And you know, maybe in their universe it is true.. but that is the problem.. they are judging the entire country from their universe.. It would be like me trying to judge the needs and attitudes of NY'ers from my perspective as an Iowan.. you have to find the great middle.. and realize none of us have a perfect answer..
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)Last edited Fri May 1, 2020, 02:45 PM - Edit history (1)
The posturing pundits need a good shaking up. We must make sure everyone knows we are having none of it, shame any on our side who try and pretend there's something to this swill, and blanket 'news' outlets who try and peddle these lies with angry protests and threats of boycott --- anything short of actual threats of lethal violence.
There are a damned sight more of us than there are of them.
"Defeat of a dangerous enemy is something to be for."
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)ecstatic
(32,712 posts)Why does she keep asking the same ridiculous question over and over again? And when the fuck are they going to move on to the important fucking issues?!
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)rockfordfile
(8,704 posts)OnDoutside
(19,962 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)I haven't watched it yet. But if they were rough on him and he did as well responding as everyone says he did, then it is a win for him. Far more of a win then if they had softballed it.
Peacetrain
(22,877 posts)and not what happened to Sec Clinton and President Obama where they try to clean up their mess by showing how much they can attack the Democrats..
Bucky
(54,027 posts)She gave very thorough questions and he gave very competent and precise answers.
I know they've given Trump huge boosts in the past. But every time I've watched Joe Scarborough discuss Trump in the last month, he pretty consistently excoriates him (as an opinion journalist should, by the way)
I don't think we should worry about Joe Biden handling a tough question. The truth seems to be his ally
pecosbob
(7,541 posts)Edwcraig
(290 posts)[link:http://democraticprinciples.blogspot.com/2019/08/joes-grand-old-party.html|
Joe Scarborough 08/25/2019.
We are at an acute hinge point in history. The days are grave. The need for serious, focused, wise, creative conservative leadership is something close to an emergency. And who, in this time of peril, is the champion of the Right? A clown. What a waste.
Well Joe you know since your hero Ronald Reagan became President, there has not been any fiscal conservative anything going on. Reduce taxes for the rich and cut spending for the poor and needy. Bust the budget. Increase the deficit. So, you know it has nothing to do with being fiscally or in any other way conservative. What is it then? Well Joe you know what it is.
Even today, go to the WikiPedia link for the South Carolina Republican Party as they proudly recall the history the modern South Carolina.
On September 16, 1964, Senator Strom Thurmond announced to a statewide television audience that he had switched parties from the Democrats to the Republicans, saying the Democratic "party of our fathers is dead."[7] He said it had "forsaken the people to become the party of minority groups, power-hungry union leaders, political bosses, and businessmen looking for government contracts and favors".[8] The Voting Rights Act of 1965 was passed the following year, restoring the ability of minorities to vote through federal oversight of registration and electoral processes. Most African Americans affiliated with the national Democratic Party, which had supported their struggle. While __________________________ South Carolina and other southern states gradually shifted from the Democratic to the Republican Party.
Notice I left words blank. Based on the proud pronouncement of this group of citizens who were in opposition to, of all things, the Voting Rights Act, and who became the modern-day SC Republican Party - what could those words be? Is it, good people of? constitutionalists of? states rights advocates of? It is conservatives in. The words should have been racists in. But they could not use those words. You know, cannot tell the truth here. So, use the word that has before, was then and is today the mask word for RACISTS. CONSERVATIVES.
There was no ambiguity about what the Republican Party and Democratic Party stood for in the South when one chose which Party to join. Even the Grand Old Party of Everett Dirksen, John D. Rockefeller, Barry Goldwater and Dwight Eisenhower, knew who these evil people were.
And Nixon knew he could win in 1968, using these new Republicans. His Southern Strategy was a deal with the devil. He could use them, and he thought they could be controlled. And so, did Ronald Reagan, who added white evangelical Southern Christians to the fold. No Republican President since Nixon would win the White House without the support of white, southern, racists Republicans.
Joe Scarborough would say that he was innocent in joining a political Party that embraced conservative truth, justice and the American way. He acts surprised to learn, only now, that it was all about racism. But he knew, I when growing up in South Carolina knew, when making a political decision about which Party to join, which philosophy of government to embrace in the South, knew. It was then, and is now, a decision to support Republican racism or not.
By 2016, conservative Republicans, recharged by the election of a black man as President, vanquished the moderates in the Grand Old Party. The cancer had spread from white racists in the South, to white racists throughout the country. A Republican parade had formed, marching to the beat of the white racists. It was looking for a leader. It did not matter if that leader shot someone on 5th Avenue. They wanted a leader that would vanquish minorities. They were in ecstatic when he jumped in front of their parade and proclaimed.
When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. . . . and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists.
They were sold.
It was a Republican parade of racists. Racists and those who do not believe in government, because government since LBJ, helped minorities and those that need help. If you listen to Joe, you would think the conservative Grand Ole Party was hijacked by Donald Trump. The beautiful pristine, virtuous and conservative Republican Party was duped by a monster. Here is the thing. Donald Trump is a Republican. Over 85% of Republicans today APPROVE of the job he is doing. Sorry Joe. Trump is a Republican. The Republicans are Trump. And there never was a conservative Republican Party.
So, lets be frank. the problem here is not Trump. It is the Republican Party. The only way to make America - America again is to vanquish Joes Grand Ole Party from power at every level of government.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)like grim death, and are desperate to keep hold of them at any cost.