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Message to DUers (Original Post) malaise May 2020 OP
Yes. Walleye May 2020 #1
YES n/t Lulu KC May 2020 #2
Yes. LakeArenal May 2020 #3
It will be 200,000 by end of August.... FarPoint May 2020 #4
but but but the meme is anything under a million is tremendous - strong numbers malaise May 2020 #5
My guess is the numbers will be Katrina'd and Iraq'd live love laugh May 2020 #7
the numbers are already undercounted, but people will be missed. SleeplessinSoCal May 2020 #16
Katrina and Iraq, yeI would add Vietnam. wnylib May 2020 #17
I would bet money on that... FarPoint May 2020 #36
I don't see us going under 1000 dead per day this summer. patphil May 2020 #11
BUT BUT BUT 200K is the new 60K? Brainfodder May 2020 #21
Distractions? Harker May 2020 #6
Almost at 65k now. ananda May 2020 #8
Will be shortly malaise May 2020 #13
You say it more succinctly than I could ever, malaise. ffr May 2020 #9
Stole that from Luckovich malaise May 2020 #14
He's so freakin' good!!!!! spanone May 2020 #45
One of the really great political cartoonists malaise May 2020 #46
I will keep in the back of my mind berksdem May 2020 #10
Agreed lonely bird May 2020 #24
Recommended. H2O Man May 2020 #12
I'm not taking anything for granted. I was so sure last time that Secretary Clinton would win and totodeinhere May 2020 #15
With DEEP UTMOST RESPECT, I PAINFULLY, STRONGLY, DISAGREE! bubbazero May 2020 #18
The numbers only matter when safeinOhio May 2020 #19
I Agree, Ma'am The Magistrate May 2020 #20
Todays distraction: They are good people, them storming gun nuts in Mich GusBob May 2020 #22
Hope you didn't just catch the puke inducing presser with Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #23
Well then it's time for Democrats to fill the void Wednesdays May 2020 #37
good idea nt Grasswire2 May 2020 #38
Wow..that was EXACTLY what I was thinking. Like people Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #40
Count me out of adoring Fauci, but he's not the only expert who could speak ... Hermit-The-Prog May 2020 #44
Me too...but it strikes me that the medical expert needs to Laura PourMeADrink May 2020 #48
We Know Joe ITower68 May 2020 #25
+1 padah513 May 2020 #29
They keep dangling shiny objects. lpbk2713 May 2020 #26
Please be right on this! BlueJac May 2020 #27
From your lips, Malaise! secondwind May 2020 #28
Donald Trump is done. This the beginning of the end. Bonx May 2020 #30
And FINALLY, I think his idiotic lies and STUPIDITY are catching up with him. BigDemVoter May 2020 #31
And it'll will be worse and worse Marthe48 May 2020 #32
9/11 changed everything IronLionZion May 2020 #33
Thanks for the reminder. Keep focused and angry Pepsidog May 2020 #34
Yes. All the chickens of Trump's total incompetence and gamble Roc2020 May 2020 #35
There never was a doubt.... yuiyoshida May 2020 #39
And that and all these dead people malaise May 2020 #41
there is also Mitch Mcconnell yuiyoshida May 2020 #42
They are way more than idiots malaise May 2020 #43
Yes, this too... yuiyoshida May 2020 #47

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
4. It will be 200,000 by end of August....
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:16 PM
May 2020

My " guess"...especially with this premature " Open Up America" so tRump can manlipulate the country as being safe so he can campaign and look like some savior, hero or whatever he thinks he wants to be....He is in this only for the sprint to November Election....he will try to minimize death counts...could care less about any COVID deaths....

live love laugh

(13,118 posts)
7. My guess is the numbers will be Katrina'd and Iraq'd
Fri May 1, 2020, 01:59 PM
May 2020

and the American public will not know the real death toll. They’ve gotten away with it before. Why expect them to act with integrity now?

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,123 posts)
16. the numbers are already undercounted, but people will be missed.
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:30 PM
May 2020

Morgues will fill up to capacity and many will overflow.

The strong numbers of people wanting to continue social distancing are very tuned in. That includes a lot of seniors. Florida has changed since 2016. They can't even collect unemployment because of their intransigence in believing in Republicans.

wnylib

(21,487 posts)
17. Katrina and Iraq, yeI would add Vietnam.
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:45 PM
May 2020

Some of us oldsters remember Walter Cronkite giving two sets of figures for death and wounded counts on the nightly news. The first figures were official government ones. The second were from witnesses on the scenes.

He is trying hard to find scapegoats like China. Are tgere that many people too dumb to see through it that he would have a chance at being elected?

He and his enablers and backers might have to resort to outright, open manipulation of the vote counts. If he does that, will the people rise up in opposition and oust him?

patphil

(6,182 posts)
11. I don't see us going under 1000 dead per day this summer.
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:12 PM
May 2020

I agree with your assessment of 200,000 dead by the end of August. Even the Federal Government is preparing with 100,000 more body bags.

I think minimizing the numbers will be difficult since there are too many ways to get an actual count. Besides, the health community is not about to stand by and watch the numbers be manipulated. They have seen too much death to allow the truth to be buried with the bodies.

Trump is a sociopath, and is surrounded by like minded people who have a callous disregard for life. His actions, and the actions of certain Republican led states, will result in a second wave of infections and hold that death count high for the foreseeable future. I don't see how this can help him get reelected, but then I don't think like Trump.

This is a national tragedy, and the people have to be constantly reminded that it's all on the Republicans. Time and time again they have taken actions that show their lack of concern for their people.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
21. BUT BUT BUT 200K is the new 60K?
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:54 PM
May 2020

You can't slice this pile of shit nicely and them trying is just more pathetic?

They have no level they won't stoop?

malaise

(269,054 posts)
46. One of the really great political cartoonists
Sat May 2, 2020, 12:19 PM
May 2020


I suspect the concession speech will make Lady Blah Blah's look sane

berksdem

(595 posts)
10. I will keep in the back of my mind
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:11 PM
May 2020

the last election. There is plenty of time left and more assholes that could put the Dotard in office for another 4 years. I am not putting the cart before the horse...

lonely bird

(1,687 posts)
24. Agreed
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:58 PM
May 2020

I operate on the theory of paranoia.

Just because I am paranoid that doesn’t mean that they’re not out to get me.

The American electorate combined with a system designed to maintain slavery gave us this mess. Learning from mistakes seems to be a problem.

totodeinhere

(13,058 posts)
15. I'm not taking anything for granted. I was so sure last time that Secretary Clinton would win and
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:19 PM
May 2020

we know all too well what happened. The election is still a few months away and his zombie supporters will vote for him no matter what. I hope you are right but we shall see.

bubbazero

(296 posts)
18. With DEEP UTMOST RESPECT, I PAINFULLY, STRONGLY, DISAGREE!
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:46 PM
May 2020

If current poll numbers were ACTUAL election results, then of course Little Lord Tiny Uno would be gone. Problem is election is too far away! Poll numbers show Little Lord Tiny Uno well within striking distance. If his support is STILL at 40% in ANY poll today--that's scary. The Republican Propaganda industry, (though unethical, illegal, and disgusting) is BIG TIME--BAD ASS EFFECTIVE. Consider them, along with Republican attempts to manipulate votes, suppress votes, and intimidate would be Democratic voters thru fear as another set of weapons in an already well stocked massive arsenal. I DEEPLY respect your wise opinion, but experience tells me the Republicans will prove to be a FORMIDABLE adversary. This ain't gonna be no peaceful picnic--this gonna be a mean, nasty, bloody fight. (I am not sure of the outcome, but Oh Dear God am I ready to rumble) When I think of our citizens, our kids, I think of the future. When I consider this nation; All it could be, All it should aspire to, All the HOPE it can provide, ALL the HUMAN DREAMS which can become POSSIBILITIES, I WILL NOT LET THAT GO WITHOUT A FIGHT--PERIOD

safeinOhio

(32,688 posts)
19. The numbers only matter when
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:49 PM
May 2020

your fiends and family are in them.

We are getting near the numbers that count.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
20. I Agree, Ma'am
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:52 PM
May 2020

People are affronted by great piles of corpses, and assign responsibility for them to whomever is is charge at the moments. It does not help their cause that their policy, openly stated, is kill the old folks so's we can make more money, when old folks are (or were) their most reliable constituency, whose votes put them in office over the wishes of the rest of the populace.

If these wretches ever did hold Heaven's Mandate, there can be no doubt Heaven has withdrawn it now.


"He can't even make it cold in winter! How can he make it rain come spring?"



GusBob

(7,286 posts)
22. Todays distraction: They are good people, them storming gun nuts in Mich
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:56 PM
May 2020

He says shit like that to own the libs

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
23. Hope you didn't just catch the puke inducing presser with
Fri May 1, 2020, 02:58 PM
May 2020

new press secy. Sounds like no more press conferences with medical experts. She reverted to the standard formula. She trashed the miscarriage of Justice with Flynn, and then once the reporter said "he pled guilty", she reverted to "what lying network are you with" methodology.

Personally think its a crying shame that we won't hear the medical experts anymore. Just because of Trump's fragile ego. Do you know CNN had 90,000+ questions from people for their town hall last night? About CV.

Wednesdays

(17,380 posts)
37. Well then it's time for Democrats to fill the void
Fri May 1, 2020, 04:34 PM
May 2020

Have Joe hold his own pressers with medical experts, etc. Wouldn't it be fun to see the orange blob's reaction seeing Dr. Fauci at one of those?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
40. Wow..that was EXACTLY what I was thinking. Like people
Fri May 1, 2020, 11:11 PM
May 2020

Used to around 6 on Eastern. But how would you do it? Trump's not gonna allow Birx or especially Fauci on it. The entire nation adores Fauci.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,350 posts)
44. Count me out of adoring Fauci, but he's not the only expert who could speak ...
Sat May 2, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

There are plenty of medical experts in this country. Most are not cuddling up to mass murderers.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
48. Me too...but it strikes me that the medical expert needs to
Sat May 2, 2020, 12:33 PM
May 2020

be from the task force? Like privy to what the fuck is going on with testing, fed responses, vaccines, etc.

It's like we have been abandoned on a national level. Trump got his feelings hurt, took the ball and went home.

As a substitute, it would be cool if PBS, CNN, and MSNBC simulcast together what would have to be a makeshift replacement. Maybe with designated people in charge of speaking on particular subjects? But it would all be second hand. Like they would have to say they reached out to FDA and were told this, to CDC and was told this? Really janky.

That said, people still want and need info.

ITower68

(23 posts)
25. We Know Joe
Fri May 1, 2020, 03:11 PM
May 2020

He's been in the public light since back in the 70's when he won his first Senate election. We know he is a man of character and empathy. Smears will not stick.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
31. And FINALLY, I think his idiotic lies and STUPIDITY are catching up with him.
Fri May 1, 2020, 03:45 PM
May 2020

When people have family members and friends die, and they see their retirement savings vanish, they tend to pay a little more attention than they did in 2016.

Roc2020

(1,616 posts)
35. Yes. All the chickens of Trump's total incompetence and gamble
Fri May 1, 2020, 04:12 PM
May 2020

have come home to roost with the response to this pandemic.

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
42. there is also Mitch Mcconnell
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:39 AM
May 2020

and the Republican party which had no idea what they were doing for this pandemic... Mike Pence not wearing a mask to a hospital... smh...IDIOTS ALL....

yuiyoshida

(41,832 posts)
47. Yes, this too...
Sat May 2, 2020, 12:20 PM
May 2020

we really need Joe Biden to win, because this virus is not going anywhere soon... we need reasonable leadership., not a clown show.

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