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sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:17 PM May 2020

University Of Washington Models Predict 72,433 Total Deaths By August

How many people are likely to die in the United States of Covid-19? How many hospital beds is the country going to need? When will case numbers peak? To answer those questions, many hospital planners, media outlets, and government bodies — including the White House — relied heavily on one particular model out of the many that have been published in the past two months: the University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME).

The model first estimated in late March that there’d be fewer than 161,000 deaths total in the US; in early April, it revised its projections to say the total death toll through August was “projected to be 60,415” (though it acknowledged the range could be between 31,221 and 126,703). The model has been cited often by the White House and has informed its policymaking. But it may have led the administration astray: The IHME has consistently forecast many fewer deaths than most other models, largely because the IHME model projects that deaths will decline rapidly after the peak — an assumption that has not been borne out.

On Wednesday, the US death count passed the 60,000 mark that the IHME model had said was the likely total cumulative death toll. The IHME on April 29 released a new update raising its estimates for total deaths to 72,433, but that, too, looks likely to be proved an underestimate as soon as next week. Even its upper bound on deaths — now listed as 114,228 by August — is questionable, as some other models expect the US will hit that milestone by the end of May, and most project it will in June.

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/5/2/21241261/coronavirus-modeling-us-deaths-ihme-pandemic

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University Of Washington Models Predict 72,433 Total Deaths By August (Original Post) sfstaxprep May 2020 OP
IHME. Squinch May 2020 #1
This. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #4
It is abundantly clear that the IHME model is crap SoonerPride May 2020 #2
My Birthday Is May 23 sfstaxprep May 2020 #3
Yep. And that value tracking means upwards of a quarter million dead by the time... Volaris May 2020 #11
I fear we'll have that many before the end of May! nt tblue37 May 2020 #5
We're still over 1,500 deaths per day. patphil May 2020 #6
Exactly. A conservative estimate is we will will be at 75K by June. I think we will hit 100K by 6/1 OrlandoDem2 May 2020 #7
This model looks far more realistic. Buckeye_Democrat May 2020 #9
Wow! Not bad considering I pulled my estimate right out of my butt hole. patphil May 2020 #19
By August, they meant May 7th Roland99 May 2020 #8
*snort* Nevilledog May 2020 #16
30,000+ per month kentuck May 2020 #10
Yeah, more like 60,000 per month. nt coti May 2020 #13
The model failed, and it didn't even take into account GOP states that are masking death numbers. TheBlackAdder May 2020 #12
Yeah, time to throw that "model" in the garbage. nt coti May 2020 #14
We'll be well over 200,000 by then. NightWatcher May 2020 #15
I've Been Saying That sfstaxprep May 2020 #18
Huge lowball Loki Liesmith May 2020 #17
We're already nearly at 67,000, according to Crunchy Frog May 2020 #20
we will hit that number in May Marrah_Goodman May 2020 #21
Early May, the way this is going. LisaL May 2020 #22

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
4. This.
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:28 PM
May 2020


Problems with that model were mentioned by epidemiologists weeks ago.

It’s overly-optimistic, so the Trump team pushed it.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
2. It is abundantly clear that the IHME model is crap
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:21 PM
May 2020

And it only picked by the trumplethinskin administration because of the exceedingly optimistic forecasts

It is literal garbage

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
3. My Birthday Is May 23
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:26 PM
May 2020

Based on the trend WITH the shutdowns, I still think we'll hit 100K by my birthday.

With the push to start opening up in various parts of the country, I think there is now Zero doubt about that, and we may easily hit 100K several days before the 23rd.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
11. Yep. And that value tracking means upwards of a quarter million dead by the time...
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:09 PM
May 2020

The school year starts in fall. Lovley.

How many bodies will it take, before america is great again?

patphil

(6,182 posts)
6. We're still over 1,500 deaths per day.
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:53 PM
May 2020

If that continues until August 1st, that would add 145,000 deaths to the 66,000 we have now.
That's 211,000.

Even if we go down to 1,000 deaths per day, we are at 156,000 by August !st.
To come in at 114,000 we have to go down to close to 500 deaths per day, and that's an average over the 90 days.
I doubt it will drop of that far, given the push to open things up again.

I see no reason to expect the toll will be that low; probably at or above the 156,000 number.

Of course, I'm just looking at the situation and taking a guess...could be less, but I doubt it.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
9. This model looks far more realistic.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:01 PM
May 2020
https://covid19-projections.com/#view-projections

It projects between 100,000 and 300,000 deaths by August (97.5% confidence interval) with an expectation of about 168,000.

Edit: It also indicates a current 2.9% overall infection rate (including recoveries) in the USA, which is FAR from herd immunity levels of 60%+. In other words, this will likely last awhile without a vaccine.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. We'll be well over 200,000 by then.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:15 PM
May 2020

Georgia, Florida, and all the red states are about to explode. They are celebrating that they've beat the libs and are "free" to run around licking doorknobs and shit

If you can, stay inside for another month. By then, they'll lock us back down again.

sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
18. I've Been Saying That
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:46 PM
May 2020

Because of those Fuckers opening up, the rest of us are going to continue suffering.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
17. Huge lowball
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:27 PM
May 2020

We are at 66K today.

IHME looked better two weeks ago but it’s clear that we don’t know enough about this disease to
model it well yet.

Crunchy Frog

(26,587 posts)
20. We're already nearly at 67,000, according to
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

And that's just the official, confirmed fatalities. The true numbers are likely considerably higher, which would mean that we're already past that "estimate".

The "official" numbers will be there within days.

This "model" seems pretty worthless to me.
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