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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:48 PM May 2020

Thousands of healthcare workers are laid off or furloughed as coronavirus spreads

Healthcare workers, championed as heroes of the COVID-19 crisis and applauded for risking their lives to protect others, have been hit especially hard by the severe economic fallout wrought by the pandemic.

In California, thousands of nurses, doctors and other medical staff have been laid off or furloughed or have taken a pay cut since mid-March. The pain has been felt broadly, from major facilities such as Stanford Health Care to tiny rural hospitals to private practitioners. Across the nation, job losses in the healthcare sector have been second only to those in the restaurant industry, according to federal labor statistics.

Hospitals and doctors’ offices lost billions in revenue when they canceled elective surgeries and non-emergent visits to prepare for a possible surge in COVID-19 patients and to reduce the spread of the virus.

Patients also began scheduling fewer appointments and avoiding the hospital, even for medical emergencies, creating another hit for providers who were already hurting. The surge, in places where it did arrive, was not enough to compensate for the losses, experts say.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-05-02/coronavirus-california-healthcare-workers-layoffs-furloughs

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Thousands of healthcare workers are laid off or furloughed as coronavirus spreads (Original Post) Zorro May 2020 OP
I'm one of them forthemiddle May 2020 #1
It is happening here in Virginia as well Yonnie3 May 2020 #2
That's crazy. Shortsighted, at best. nt coti May 2020 #3
Not really. Blue_true May 2020 #5
2 of my nieces are registered nurses. SamKnause May 2020 #4

forthemiddle

(1,381 posts)
1. I'm one of them
Sat May 2, 2020, 02:59 PM
May 2020

I am on the administrative side of healthcare, but the company I work for contracts out workers to the hospitals, and the vast majority, throughout the Country are furloughing workers.

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)
2. It is happening here in Virginia as well
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:09 PM
May 2020

At the University of Virginia Medical Center austerity actions that I know about consist of:

Layoffs (through late July with Health Insurance paid), but only a few I've heard of
50% reduction in hours in administration
10% reduction in hours for some clinical/laboratory employees
20% reduction in compensation for highly paid employees such as doctors and top level administration
No matching contributions to retirement plan for any employees.

It seems to me that the reductions are such that very few will be eligible for partial unemployment which will save UVa much money in unemployment insurance. UVa's payment goes up if they have employees eligible for unemployment payments.

I know about these from media reports and from affected people I know.

My neighbor works in an outpatient surgery clinic and they are working at half hours for full pay. The independent clinic received a PPP loan so they are able to do this. As of yesterday non-critical surgery is again allowed in Virginia but very few of their patients are willing to come in.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. Not really.
Sat May 2, 2020, 08:24 PM
May 2020

Intensive Care and emergency medicine are a rather selective part of medical treatment. My oldest brother has been through Cardiac ICU once and standard ICU a couple of times. He has been through the Emergency Room maybe twice. What I saw was ICU Doctors and Nurses tend to be young or foreigners (originally). I noticed that Emergency Room people tend to be older than the ICU ones, including trauma surgery people (a serious gunshot victim was brought in one time when my brother was there and I noticed some of the Nurses and a couple of Doctors who were rushing around). It takes people that have a special mindset to work ICU, Trauma and Emergency medicine, a lot of Doctors and Nurses don't have the training for that or don't have the mindset - those people witness a lot of people dying and have to pickup and keep moving on after.

Doctors and Nurses that are non emergency medicine or ICU can be brought in to help with limited things (like setting cathers, checking vitals), but that raises malpractice risks that those medical professionals and hospitals likely are not willing to expose themselves to, and those people would need supervision from ICU or Emergency Doctors and Nurses, adding another burden to those people in an situation like covid19 treatment.

I had a colonoscopy about four months ago. The Nurses that dealt with me were good, but what they had to do was fairly limited when compared to what they would be doing in an ICU unit. The Doctors were all Gastroenterologists, a very specific practice. The Nurses likely could do some things that an ICU Nurse does, but like I pointed out, an ICU Nurse, or Supervising ICU Nurse would need to oversee their work, taking time from those people.

SamKnause

(13,108 posts)
4. 2 of my nieces are registered nurses.
Sat May 2, 2020, 03:17 PM
May 2020

Both are laid off.

1 of them has worked at Christ hospital for over 20 or 25 years. She has never been laid off.

1 of them has been a nurse for over 15 or 20 years and has never been laid off.

Another one of my nieces does medical transcribing from home.

She was laid off for the first time. She has worked from home for the same company

for over 25 years.

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