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spanone

(135,844 posts) Sat May 2, 2020, 03:06 PM May 2020

Tennessee 'opened up' on Monday.....

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=tennessee+covid+19+numbers&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

Tennessee

Restaurants in Tennessee were allowed to reopen on April 27, and retail stores followed on April 29, provided they operate at 50 percent capacity. The loosened restrictions from Governor Bill Lee will apply only in Tennessee counties without their own public-health departments, meaning large cities, including Nashville, Memphis, and Knoxville, will be allowed to set their own timeline.

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/05/states-stay-at-home-orders-ending.html

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Tennessee 'opened up' on Monday..... (Original Post) spanone May 2020 OP

Gee, who could have imagined this outcome? Nevilledog May 2020 #1

What don't these idiot lawmakers get? Ohiogal May 2020 #2

More testing and that prison are the reason. jimfields33 May 2020 #11

They're just following orders from their donors. Yavin4 May 2020 #16

This is a bit disingenuous jojog May 2020 #3

Thanks Yonnie3 May 2020 #5

I don't follow your reasoning here lunatica May 2020 #10

Completely. There's no way you would see a spike that big in a few days DrToast May 2020 #12

Yes. "Testing of inmates at Tenn. state prison results in new case surge" gristy May 2020 #14

Thanks spanone! lunatica May 2020 #4

it's going to take more than a week qazplm135 May 2020 #6

All the more reason the state shouldn't have opened. spanone May 2020 #7

I read 2-3 weeks is when we'll start to see the results. stillcool May 2020 #8

Probably too soon for this to be an effect from Monday Loki Liesmith May 2020 #9

True, opening is not the causation. I was trying to point out that my state opened too soon. spanone May 2020 #17

I believe that Tennessee is under reporting death statistics jojog May 2020 #13

That's a great source. Thank you. Squinch May 2020 #15

Nevilledog

(51,122 posts)

1. Gee, who could have imagined this outcome?

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:07 PM

May 2020

Ohiogal

(32,006 posts)

2. What don't these idiot lawmakers get?

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:10 PM

May 2020

jimfields33

(15,823 posts)

11. More testing and that prison are the reason.

Reply to Ohiogal (Reply #2)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:31 PM

May 2020

Yavin4

(35,442 posts)

16. They're just following orders from their donors.

Reply to Ohiogal (Reply #2)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:06 PM

May 2020

They don't represent the people. Sure, they feed them racism, hatred, and religion to get elected, but they serve their donors.

jojog

(372 posts)

3. This is a bit disingenuous

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:15 PM

May 2020

A population of inmates at a state prison is in this surge.

[link:https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2020/05/01/tennessee-testing-all-inmates-prison-staff-after-multiple-outbreaks/3067388001/|

Yonnie3

(17,444 posts)

5. Thanks

Reply to jojog (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:20 PM

May 2020

I was all set to search and see if the testing had drastically increased or if there were outbreaks in assisted living facilities or prisons. You saved me the trouble.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

10. I don't follow your reasoning here

Reply to jojog (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:31 PM

May 2020

The surge is more pronounced and obvious in prisons, nursing homes and places where a lot of people are packed together like the meat processing companies, but in these places they’re counting is accurate, whereas in the larger groups who don’t have the same conditions the counting is actually inaccurate. The way it looks it’s possible than in the population it’s impossible to count how many people have it because there is virtually no testing.

All we are seeing is the tip of the iceberg until everyone can be tested. Any counts until then are completely flawed.

It makes sense that if there’s a surge in prisons and nursing homes there’s an equal surge in the entire community. Prisoners and the elderly in nursing homes are infected by outside sources, or by people who go outside who guard or take care of them or visit them.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)

12. Completely. There's no way you would see a spike that big in a few days

Reply to jojog (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:32 PM

May 2020

gristy

(10,667 posts)

14. Yes. "Testing of inmates at Tenn. state prison results in new case surge"

Reply to jojog (Reply #3)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:50 PM

May 2020

would be an honest OP title.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)

4. Thanks spanone!

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:16 PM

May 2020

I really wanted to see the results of opening up too soon. I think we can assume that the majority of those infected now have infected every person they’ve come in contact with who are now infecting their share. Those red states are going to end up broken beyond repair.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)

6. it's going to take more than a week

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:22 PM

May 2020

for any increases attributable to opening up to show up in the actual numbers.
Testing doesn't happen that fast. Heck symptoms sometimes don't happen that fast.

spanone

(135,844 posts)

7. All the more reason the state shouldn't have opened.

Reply to qazplm135 (Reply #6)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:26 PM

May 2020

We had our highest number of new cases the day before the state 'opened'.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)

8. I read 2-3 weeks is when we'll start to see the results.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:28 PM

May 2020

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)

9. Probably too soon for this to be an effect from Monday

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:28 PM

May 2020

We shall see.

spanone

(135,844 posts)

17. True, opening is not the causation. I was trying to point out that my state opened too soon.

Reply to Loki Liesmith (Reply #9)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:07 PM

May 2020

I imagine many states have

jojog

(372 posts)

13. I believe that Tennessee is under reporting death statistics

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 03:35 PM

May 2020

I have been tracking TN vs. KY because the governor in Kentucky reacted much sooner.

The deaths per 1m in Tennessee is 31 and in Kentucky it is 56.

The cases per 1m are 1904 TN and 1099 KY.

Makes no sense.

[link:https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/|

Squinch

(50,955 posts)

15. That's a great source. Thank you.

Reply to spanone (Original post)

Sat May 2, 2020, 05:03 PM

May 2020

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