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Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:18 PM May 2020

What does Putin have on Trump?

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Publication of the report immediately prompted Nancy Pelosi, the Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, to ask the key question: “What does Putin have on Trump — personally, politically, financially?”

As Pelosi said: “The findings of the intelligence community cannot be denied…why would he choose to believe what Putin said over the intelligence community?”

Her questions have been asked by many people for more than three years now. Yet, with the November 3 election approaching rapidly, they are as urgent as ever and we still do not have good answers....

The new report — and the new spotlight shed by Pelosi’s pointed question — aims at explaining Trump’s continuing tirades against the “deep state” and his labeling of the U.S.’s national intelligence community as “scum.”

Until the arrival of Trump in the White House, such statements would have been considered as utterly unbecoming, if not implicitly treasonous, for any Republican president.

In modern U.S. political history, they were the trope of radical conspiracy-driven circles on the extreme fringes of the U.S. political equation.

Despite the conclusions by the bipartisan Senate committee and a similar finding by the Inspector-General of the Justice Department and last year by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Trump’s team continues to deny, deride and promote its alternative narrative.

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. Some embarrassing stuff for sure but mainly it is that Rump owes the russian oligarch billions
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

We already know about some of the loans.

What people need to know is Rump is the worst businessperson in history...Not one of his businesses has made money, not one.

When he would get a paycheck from Apprentice, he would lose it somehow. His bid for the WH was to get a raise at the show, but Americans being the very racist very dumb people some of them are, well you know the rest of that story.

He doesnt just want to build a hotel in Moscow, he wants continued access to the blood money the oligarchs have. He cant ever make money with money, he is far too stupid, so the russians own him for life.

WhiteTara

(29,718 posts)
3. He launders Russian money
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:32 PM
May 2020

that has been stolen from various countries' treasuries. He's part of the Transnational Criminal Organization run by Semion Mogelovich.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
5. Yep, that is part of it, and he borrows more because he loses what he gets so quickly.
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:34 PM
May 2020

IRS, what we do know of him says he is the worst businessperson who ever lived.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
7. I have had the impression...
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:37 PM
May 2020

From some articles on that that Trump was more invested in money laundering than the real estate deals. I mean, look at how many of his ventures turned out. When you deal with mobsters, that's guilt by association at the very least, but there is more to it.

LiberalArkie

(15,719 posts)
15. The Don doesn't loose money. On paper he does, but the money goes to another crime family,
Sat May 2, 2020, 06:52 PM
May 2020

Laundered you might say.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
17. Well, if his so called legit businesses are the laundering facility, then that would be something
Sat May 2, 2020, 07:40 PM
May 2020

alright.

I think his hotels or golf courses are just poorly managed.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
2. Likely several things, both personal and financial, but above all what he has is...
Sat May 2, 2020, 04:31 PM
May 2020

...a clear understanding of just what kind of creature Trump is.

Knows it so well he can have his hand so far up the puppet that he can brush its teeth from the inside.

Chainfire

(17,550 posts)
11. The thing that matters the most to Trump is money
Sat May 2, 2020, 05:16 PM
May 2020

so money is the most likely hook. It would be very cost effective for Putin to prop up trump economically in exchange for "favors."

"Sure, Donald, we will back your failing businesses. Everybody falls on hard times sometimes, but first, we need a favor."


The Russians are a very patient bunch. They may have been grooming Trump for decades and he might not have even been aware of it. If so, his turning will go down as the greatest intelligence coup of history. Kim Philby, may have been the previous champ, but he would look like a minor league player compared to Trump.

If Trump is not the Manchurian Candidate, it doesn't much matter, the results have been the same. He has divided the country as never before has caused trouble in our alliances, wrecked our health care system and now the economy, worked to destroy our environment, and has made the US the laughing stock of the rest of the world. The only thing Putin could still ask for might be the keys to the nuclear codes.....

DEbluedude

(816 posts)
13. Deutsche Bank loans going back decades.
Sat May 2, 2020, 05:28 PM
May 2020

Underwritten by Russian oligarchs. Putin was involved somewhere along the line. That's my guess.

bluestarone

(16,976 posts)
14. 35 Years of dealing oneway or another with Russia?
Sat May 2, 2020, 05:32 PM
May 2020

They (Russia) has EVERYTHING on tRUMP and who knows how many senators. Maybe even SUPREME COURT justices!!

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