Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

kpete

(72,006 posts)
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:04 PM May 2020

The USA just reported its deadliest day for coronavirus patients as states reopen

The U.S. saw 2,909 people die of Covid-19 in 24 hours, according to the data, which was collected as of 4 a.m. ET on Friday.

That’s the highest daily death toll in the U.S. yet based on a CNBC analysis of the WHO’s daily Covid-19 situation reports.

The country’s deadliest day comes as state officials weigh reopening parts of the economy and easing stay-at-home orders.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/02/who-us-just-reported-deadliest-day-for-coronavirus.html

8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The USA just reported its deadliest day for coronavirus patients as states reopen (Original Post) kpete May 2020 OP
And the real effects of re-opening won't be felt for 2-3 weeks yet... Wounded Bear May 2020 #1
I tend to agree on the 4 weeks prediction, especially in places like Florida, Texas, other normally Blue_true May 2020 #4
K&R !!! CountAllVotes May 2020 #2
Coronavirus is just about done with NY, but it's just getting started everywhere else. Renew Deal May 2020 #3
It will shift to warmer southern states where governors are rushing to reopen. Blue_true May 2020 #5
And they are much less concentrated in New York Tom Rinaldo May 2020 #6
The numbers are strange. Igel May 2020 #7
That data doesn't match with what I'm finding Ms. Toad May 2020 #8

Wounded Bear

(58,685 posts)
1. And the real effects of re-opening won't be felt for 2-3 weeks yet...
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:07 PM
May 2020

and any deaths that might follow due to it are 4-6 weeks out.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
4. I tend to agree on the 4 weeks prediction, especially in places like Florida, Texas, other normally
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:41 PM
May 2020

hot states during Spring and Summer. Stay at Home orders have people largely not encountering a lot of group contact. With reopening, people start going back to offices, manufacturing plants, shops, stores regularly, and they are in those places while AC is running. I believe that last set of conditions will start to cause covid19 infections to explode in hotter southern states. I would hope that all states would be wise enough to issue mandatory mask wearing orders and fine or jail any yahoo that resist that commonsense, but I seriously don't expect to see that in states led by the likes of DeSantis, Abbott, the Georgia governor, the Oklahoma governor, ect, so I anticipate that most of the dying from covid19 will shift to those places, and those numbers are going to be grievously large.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
5. It will shift to warmer southern states where governors are rushing to reopen.
Sat May 2, 2020, 10:46 PM
May 2020

I hope that states like Michigan, Illinois, Massachusetts, New York (already done), California, Oregon, Washington, New Mexico, ect are smart enough to have mandatory wearing on masks when in public, and fine or jail any Yahoo that defies that order.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,913 posts)
6. And they are much less concentrated in New York
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:03 PM
May 2020

Which means more folks in other parts of the country are starting to see the effects, making it much more real to them.

Igel

(35,337 posts)
7. The numbers are strange.
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:21 PM
May 2020

Only this source reports that high a number. It may be that the CDC finally caught up on reporting. Might be a typo--it's about 1000 higher than every other reporting source. For some, outliers require an explanation. For others, outliers are taken to be more representative of the *real* data than most of the data.

Remember that with all due regard to CNBC it is *not* the number of people who died in the 24 hour reporting period. At this point it's not a facile error, it's a foolish error. WHO can't know the actual number of deaths; in fact, the CDC probably doesn't know the actual number who died; both just know what's reported. WHO says as much, but it requires reading the technical apparatus to understand the data. I know, "reading."

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/situation-reports is a good source for this kind of thing, if you want. They track usual reported numbers fairly closely except for that one report. It doesn't show up among the errata in situation report 103, but may be because nobody cares about them.

Ms. Toad

(34,085 posts)
8. That data doesn't match with what I'm finding
Sat May 2, 2020, 11:52 PM
May 2020

It was 1897 new deaths on Friday, and 1691 today. On Thursday it was 2201. The deadliest day appears to have been April 23 (with 2683new deaths)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/ (Scroll about 2/5 of the way down the page)

So, while I agree with the concern that we are opening things too soon, the concern needs to be supported with accurate data.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»The USA just reported its...