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Bucky

(54,087 posts)
Thu May 7, 2020, 07:05 PM May 2020

Coronavirus Found in Semen of Covid-19 Patients

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-is-found-in-semen-of-covid-19-patients-11588863600

This is bad, obviously, yet part of me has to wonder under what circumstances this was discovered.

"Doc, I'm going fast... but... I have... one... final request..."

Coronavirus Is Found in Semen of Covid-19 Patients
By Preetika Rana
May 7, 2020


The new coronavirus has been found in the semen of infected individuals, according to Chinese researchers, raising the prospect that the virus could be sexually transmitted.

The study, other researchers warn, also raises many questions. It doesn’t explain how much viral load was present in the sperm; nor did it examine whether the virus can be transmitted through sexual activity.


"Viral load".... get it?
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Coronavirus Found in Semen of Covid-19 Patients (Original Post) Bucky May 2020 OP
Damn jberryhill May 2020 #1
Slap on a condom... Karadeniz May 2020 #2
I can't breathe through a condom! jberryhill May 2020 #4
😆 Hahaha!!! Bucky May 2020 #13
Poke some holes in it. LuckyCharms May 2020 #16
You are in for another type of mask, look like. nt Blue_true May 2020 #9
Mask? Check. Gloves? Check. The other glove? Check. Solly Mack May 2020 #3
Was a lot of speculation C19 had similar traits to HIV in the way it acted, would not surprise me. sunonmars May 2020 #5
The disease that spawned Gilead. iemitsu May 2020 #6
The same was true for the ebola virus. milestogo May 2020 #7
The amount of covid19 in semen would matter. Blue_true May 2020 #8
You can tell by the way it tastes jberryhill May 2020 #10
I will pass on tasting semen, thanks anyway. nt Blue_true May 2020 #11
or IS it....? Bucky May 2020 #14
That's sick my friend. I bet you are the type that need to be watched around salad bars. Blue_true May 2020 #19
When I was in grad school I found a U.S. report of "complete aspermia" in Japanese men exposed to rzemanfl May 2020 #12
US Strategic Bombing Survey : Chapter II The Effects of the Atomic Bombings Celerity May 2020 #15
You never cease to amaze me. I think the source of the quote was rzemanfl May 2020 #18
I am paid quite well for my research abilities, lol (NOT asking for a donation, I do not need it!) Celerity May 2020 #20
Good, cause I ain't got it. I got my masters degree in 1992. rzemanfl May 2020 #24
I was born 4 years after you earned your masters, but books are still my ultimate source of Celerity May 2020 #27
Your message makes my nose hurt. rzemanfl May 2020 #28
this OP I just made might be of interest, it has some quite surprising (IMHO) numbers on COVID-19 Celerity May 2020 #22
Just read and rec'd. Thank you. n/t rzemanfl May 2020 #26
+1. Hats off. yonder May 2020 #21
thanks! Celerity May 2020 #23
This thing is going to take us out one way or another. Initech May 2020 #17
Honestly if you have Covid and you're close enough to have sex..... RhodeIslandOne May 2020 #25

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. The amount of covid19 in semen would matter.
Thu May 7, 2020, 07:22 PM
May 2020

The average healthy male ejaculates between 1/2 and 3/4 teaspoon of semen, so would a tiny amount of virus in it matter?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
19. That's sick my friend. I bet you are the type that need to be watched around salad bars.
Thu May 7, 2020, 08:20 PM
May 2020

Pre-dressing anyone?

rzemanfl

(29,571 posts)
12. When I was in grad school I found a U.S. report of "complete aspermia" in Japanese men exposed to
Thu May 7, 2020, 07:47 PM
May 2020

radiation from the atomic bombs. I had the same sort of questions. Grad school was years ago and I was middle-aged when I started.

That paper might be in Word Perfect 5.1 on a floppy disk. I no longer have anything that would read it, even if it survived close to thirty years in a box.

Celerity

(43,582 posts)
15. US Strategic Bombing Survey : Chapter II The Effects of the Atomic Bombings
Thu May 7, 2020, 08:08 PM
May 2020
https://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/AAF/USSBS/AtomicEffects/AtomicEffects-2.html

Loss of hair usually began about 2 weeks after the bomb explosion, though in a few instances it is reported to have begun as early as 4 to 5 days afterward. The areas were involved in the following order of frequency with variations depending on the degree of exposure: scalp, armpits, beard, pubic region, and eyebrows. Complete baldness was rare. Microscopic study of the body areas involved has shown atrophy of the hair follicles. In those patients who survived after 2 months, however, the hair has commenced to regrow. An interesting but unconfirmed report has it that loss of the hair was less marked in persons with grey hair than in those with dark hair.
A decrease in the number of white blood corpuscles in the circulating blood appears to have been a constant accompaniment of radiation disease, even existing n some milder cases without other radiation effects. The degree of leukopenia was probably the most accurate index of the amount of radiation a person received. The normal white blood count averages 5,000 to 7,000: leukopenia is indicated by a count of 4,000 or less. The white blood count I the more severe cases ranged from 1,500 to 0, with almost entire disappearance of the bone marrow. The moderately sever cases showed evidence of degeneration of bone marrow and total white blood counts of 1,500 to 3,000. The milder cases showed white blood counts of 3,000 to 4,000 with minor degeneration changes in the bone marrow. The changes in the system for forming red blood corpuscles developed later, but were equally severe.

Radiation clearly affected reproduction, though the extent has not been determined. Sterility has been a common finding throughout Japan, especially under the conditions of the last 2 years, but there are signs of an increase in the Hiroshima and Nagasaki areas to be attributed to the radiation. Sperm counts done in Hiroshima under American supervision revealed low sperm counts or complete aspermia for as long as 3 months afterward in males who were within 5,000 feet of the center of the explosion. Cases dying of radiation disease showed clear effects on spermatogenesis. Study of sections of ovaries from autopsied radiation victims has not yet been completed. The effects of the bomb on pregnant women are marked, however. Of women in various stages of pregnancy who were within 3,000 feet of ground zero, all known cases have had miscarriages. Even up to 6,500 feet they have had miscarriages or premature infants who died shortly after birth. In the group between 6,500 and 10,000 feet, about one-third have given birth to apparently normal children. Two months after the explosion, the city's total incidence of miscarriages, abortions, and premature births was 27 percent as compared with a normal rate of 6 percent. Since other factors than radiation contributed to this increased rate, a period of years will be required to learn the ultimate effects of mass radiation upon reproduction.

Treatment of victims by the Japanese was limited by the lack of medical supplies and facilities. Their therapy consisted of small amounts of vitamins, liver extract, and an occasional blood transfusion. Allied doctors used penicillin and plasma with beneficial effects. Liver extract seemed to benefit the few patients on whom it was used: It was given in small frequent doses when available. A large percentage of the cases died of secondary disease, such as a result of lowered resistance. Deaths from radiation began about a week after exposure and reached a peak in 3 to 4 weeks. They had practically ceased to occur after 7 to 8 weeks.

Unfortunately, no exact definition of the killing power of radiation can yet be given, nor a satisfactory account of the sort and thickness of concrete or earth that will shield people. From the definitive report of the Joint Commission will come more nearly accurate statements on these matters. In the meanwhile the awesome lethal effects of the atomic bomb and the insidious additional peril of the gamma rays speak for themselves.

There is reason to believe that if the effects of blast and fire had been entirely absent from the bombing, the number of deaths among people within a radius of one-half mile from ground zero would have been almost as great as the actual figures and the deaths among those within 1 mile would have been only slightly less. The principal difference would have been in the time of the deaths. Instead of being killed outright as were most of these victims, they would have survived for a few days or even 3 or 4 weeks, only to die eventually of radiation disease.

rzemanfl

(29,571 posts)
18. You never cease to amaze me. I think the source of the quote was
Thu May 7, 2020, 08:19 PM
May 2020

a secondary source, as the miscarriages and dead babies would have stuck in my mind. I still wonder how the samples were obtained. I really don't want to know, though.

rzemanfl

(29,571 posts)
24. Good, cause I ain't got it. I got my masters degree in 1992.
Thu May 7, 2020, 08:32 PM
May 2020

The Internet was in its infancy, I had to use books, many, many, books. The degree (in History) is suitable for framing and is framed in a box in my garage.

Celerity

(43,582 posts)
27. I was born 4 years after you earned your masters, but books are still my ultimate source of
Thu May 7, 2020, 08:56 PM
May 2020

information. Obviously not that usable for an internet chat board, unless they are digitised.

I also hate reading books online. I am addicted to the physical tactile feel of turning a page.

rzemanfl

(29,571 posts)
28. Your message makes my nose hurt.
Thu May 7, 2020, 09:06 PM
May 2020

I do a lot of reading on my Kindle. With all the libraries closed, that's a good thing. I can still borrow digital books. Listening to Rachel Maddow now, then I will crash.

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