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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:36 AM Sep 2012

I don't want a Hospice near my home it drives down property value

First, a few facts. Like every other community, rich and not, Belmont could use cash, so local officials came up with the seemingly bright idea of selling a town-owned 5.5-acre wooded parcel in the midst of upscale Belmont Hill.



Local officials received an inquiry this spring from Integra Medical Properties, a Georgia-based company interested in building a residential hospice facility on the town land adjacent to the country club and in the woods deep behind Tagg Romney’s street. It was to be one-story, about 15,000 square feet, set far back from the neighborhood.

Belmont planners seized on it. The town needed the revenue, the site was well buffered, and residents, they thought, might appreciate the service.

Belmont Hill was also home to Mitt and Ann Romney, before they sold their tasteful colonial. It’s currently the neighborhood of Tagg and Jennifer Romney, who built a 14-room, 8,000-square-foot house in 2007 that the town has assessed for $3.9 million.

At an August selectmen’s meeting, according to a video posted by the Belmont Citizen-Herald, Tagg Romney stood and told the board, “I certainly would not have built my house if I thought there was a possibility of a hospice going there. The value of all our homes will decrease dramatically.”

http://articles.boston.com/2012-09-05/metro/33580203_1_belmont-hill-ann-romney-hospice

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I don't want a Hospice near my home it drives down property value (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 OP
Their concern for their fellow American's is just breathtaking Fresh_Start Sep 2012 #1
Ah, those compassionate conservatives gollygee Sep 2012 #2
It is these little slice of life tale-ettes of the Rmoney clan that shows their true selves Stinky The Clown Sep 2012 #3
The next few paragraphs are fascinating too. "Tagg speaks, the selectmen act." enough Sep 2012 #4
what horrible, horrible people the Romneys are renate Sep 2012 #33
The Romneys ruined the neighborhood with the temple- a hospice would class up the joint. Gormy Cuss Sep 2012 #40
If I ever win the lottery, I buy out all the property near high-income neighborhoods... Comrade_McKenzie Sep 2012 #5
even winning megabucks wouldn't enable you to do that in even one high income town. cali Sep 2012 #10
5 million dollars aimed at a single, well-placed high-value property, could do enough damage. Zalatix Sep 2012 #14
Although I'm a big supporter of zoning laws cali Sep 2012 #22
Damn they are nasty scumbags malaise Sep 2012 #6
He was representing his father's property values too Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #15
This is the wonderful son who let Mitt Romney live in his unfinished basement jp11 Sep 2012 #7
Aside from being horrible, it's insane. cali Sep 2012 #8
Yolu Tapped On My Thought ProfessorGAC Sep 2012 #25
The Romney's are a nasty, nasty family Marrah_G Sep 2012 #9
this story needs to go viral. it's truly ugly cali Sep 2012 #11
I can't see how a hospice on 5.5 acres is going MineralMan Sep 2012 #12
Hot Damn!!!! Bohunk68 Sep 2012 #13
Occupy Belmont! Mopar151 Sep 2012 #19
ohhhh,,,, It would be grossly unfair to KarenS Sep 2012 #17
On the other hand, it WOULD give the romneys a chance to interact Buns_of_Fire Sep 2012 #38
Perfect. However they mustn't be told ahead of time that it's for low-income housing. Buns_of_Fire Sep 2012 #36
Put it in the name of an obscure church Mopar151 Sep 2012 #39
The rotten apple didn't fall far from the rotten tree, I see. AzDar Sep 2012 #16
I wanted to post "the douche does not fall far from the bag"! bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #23
A hospice as in a place where people go to die quietly at home? 4th law of robotics Sep 2012 #18
Tagg is staining his magic silk underwear Mopar151 Sep 2012 #20
Why on earth would a HOSPICE reduce home values? I have never heard TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #21
Translation : "I don't want those dirty sick people anywhere near me!!1!" bullwinkle428 Sep 2012 #24
Makes no sense. Hospice residents tend not to be loud party animals. Nye Bevan Sep 2012 #26
Driving down property value also means driving down property taxes. Silver lining. HopeHoops Sep 2012 #27
These people are nuts. Why would having a hospice, a quiet, non-active home, bring down sinkingfeeling Sep 2012 #28
Even aside from the pure heartlessness of this attitude, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2012 #29
Dying is soooooo hoi polloi n/t deutsey Sep 2012 #30
Anubis Ichingcarpenter Sep 2012 #31
If what I know of Mormonism is accurate deutsey Sep 2012 #35
A HUGE Mormon temple is better jsr Sep 2012 #32
LOL--now having those yahoos knocking on neighborhood doors--THAT TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #37
Years ago the community where my disabled daughter now lives had the same complaint about jwirr Sep 2012 #34
They can't even let people die?! CreekDog Sep 2012 #41
Not sure people about to pass away want to see or go by an LDS temple regularly CreekDog Sep 2012 #42
Rmoney's a classless tacky family, nothing but a bunch of poseurs and proof that Raine Sep 2012 #43

Stinky The Clown

(67,799 posts)
3. It is these little slice of life tale-ettes of the Rmoney clan that shows their true selves
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:42 AM
Sep 2012

Tigg is his father's - and maybe more his mother's - son.

What about brothers Togg, Bogg, Badda, and Bing?

enough

(13,259 posts)
4. The next few paragraphs are fascinating too. "Tagg speaks, the selectmen act."
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:43 AM
Sep 2012

snip from the article>

Tagg speaks, the selectmen act. They pretty much killed the proposal on the spot, saying they would restrict bids to those who planned to build only houses on the property.

Which leads to the Irony part of our program. Maybe it’s vaguely understandable why neighbors wouldn’t want a hospice in their community, even if, as Integra partner Tom Lewis Jr. said on the phone recently, “There are no screaming sirens. People don’t drive down the street and say, ‘I’m dying, let me pull in there.’?”

But there was another controversial proposal on Belmont Hill not all that long ago, and the Romneys played a far different role. When Mormon church leaders announced plans to build a 94,000-square-foot temple on Belmont Hill, residents packed hearings, swamped newspapers with letters, and filed court challenges. Mitt Romney spoke on behalf of the plan, then told the Globe at the time of the August 2000 opening, “It feels great to have a temple closer to home.”

So when it was a Mormon temple on Belmont Hill, one Romney backed the plan. When it’s a hospice on Belmont Hill, another Romney opposed it.

snip>

renate

(13,776 posts)
33. what horrible, horrible people the Romneys are
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:55 AM
Sep 2012

I mean, that's not exactly a news flash. But damn.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
40. The Romneys ruined the neighborhood with the temple- a hospice would class up the joint.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:24 PM
Sep 2012

That temple was all about Romney flexing his muscle.

The hospice will bring more traffic to their area and it will be OUTSIDERS who can't afford to live on Belmont Hill. That's what it's about.

 

Comrade_McKenzie

(2,526 posts)
5. If I ever win the lottery, I buy out all the property near high-income neighborhoods...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:44 AM
Sep 2012

And do everything in my power to decrease their value.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
14. 5 million dollars aimed at a single, well-placed high-value property, could do enough damage.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:14 AM
Sep 2012

The problem is that the local police are usually paid off by the local Plutocrats and will harass the shit out of you for letting poor folks in the area. Zoning laws, both properly and improperly interpreted, are also a favorite weapon of the local power elite.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
22. Although I'm a big supporter of zoning laws
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:02 AM
Sep 2012

used to keep out, for instance, big box stores in downtowns, you're right about their use by the rich to keep out low income housing.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. Aside from being horrible, it's insane.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 08:59 AM
Sep 2012

A hospice isn't exactly a half-way house for drug addicts or paroled convicts.

ProfessorGAC

(65,044 posts)
25. Yolu Tapped On My Thought
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:09 AM
Sep 2012

I'm trying to figure out how a hospice drives down property values. They are usually beautifully maintained, sedate and professionally managed places.

How would that drive down property values any more than a hospital or doctor office?
GAC

MineralMan

(146,312 posts)
12. I can't see how a hospice on 5.5 acres is going
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:09 AM
Sep 2012

to lower property values. However, if that is Tagg Romney's concern, I have another suggestion for the property:

Build a low-income apartment building there. There would be plenty of room for parking, and the pleasant surroundings would make it a nice place for low-income families to call home.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
19. Occupy Belmont!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:54 AM
Sep 2012

Belmont's "sister town", Belmont, NH, has a surplus of used house trailers and decrepit campers available, a couple hours north.

To preserve "Belmont Style", the correct ratios are: 5 house trailers, 17 dogs, 9 Chevy pickups (7 beyond repair), 2 Harleys, and 8 guys drinkin' beer and watchin' 1 guy work on the Harleys. Bill Romprey for President! on the T-shirts.....

(Yes, I know Bill, and he'd laugh his ass off if he ever read this!)

KarenS

(4,077 posts)
17. ohhhh,,,, It would be grossly unfair to
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:47 AM
Sep 2012

subject low-income families to the likes Tagg Romney's kind. jeez.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
38. On the other hand, it WOULD give the romneys a chance to interact
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:47 PM
Sep 2012

with a generally better class of people. A win-win all around, I say.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
36. Perfect. However they mustn't be told ahead of time that it's for low-income housing.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:39 PM
Sep 2012

People like the romneys avoid contact with "those" kind of people like the plague, and the development would be squashed before you could say "bought politician." Just bill it as a "Garden Apartment Community" or somesuch -- once it's built, charge whatever you want for rent, and let THAT be known far and wide.

That said, they probably already have ordinances against multi-family developments within ten miles of a romney. Gotta keep the riffraff out, don'tcha know.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
39. Put it in the name of an obscure church
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:03 PM
Sep 2012

Call it the "Center for Dignity" or "A Mission of Serenity". Done.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
18. A hospice as in a place where people go to die quietly at home?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:54 AM
Sep 2012

How would that affect real estate prices?

I'd love to have a neighbor who stays inside and doesn't have parties or anything like that.

Perhaps they're thinking half-way home.

Mopar151

(9,983 posts)
20. Tagg is staining his magic silk underwear
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:56 AM
Sep 2012

Because they might let somebody poor in to spend their last days in dignity.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. Makes no sense. Hospice residents tend not to be loud party animals.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:20 AM
Sep 2012

Coming and going late at night, getting drunk and yelling, and revving their motorcycles.

I would have no problem living near a hospice.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
28. These people are nuts. Why would having a hospice, a quiet, non-active home, bring down
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:40 AM
Sep 2012

property values? Most hospice homes around here are very clean, bright, and look like giant versions of the houses close by.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,705 posts)
29. Even aside from the pure heartlessness of this attitude,
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:52 AM
Sep 2012

how would a hospice drive down property values? The one where my mother passed away was a lovely, smallish one-story building that was attractively landscaped and mostly surrounded by trees. It didn't look exactly like a house but it blended in with the nearby homes (it was in a residential area), and certainly wasn't an ugly, commercial-looking structure. There should be more of these because the wonderful people who staff them do "the Lord's work," so to speak, and for anyone to try to keep one out of their community because of some ridiculous idea that it would affect property values is stupid and mean. But I guess that's the Romneys for you.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
31. Anubis
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:36 AM
Sep 2012

Anubis weighed your heart against the feather of Ma'at. Ma'at, the goddess of justice
If your heart was heavier having a lot of evil and evil deeds than the feather then it was eaten by the demon Ammit, the Destroyer.


Take that Romney....




deutsey

(20,166 posts)
35. If what I know of Mormonism is accurate
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:13 PM
Sep 2012

Mitt believes he's going to be a God after he dies and will get to create his own planet to rule over.

So he'd probably say: "Take THAT, Anubis!"

jsr

(7,712 posts)
32. A HUGE Mormon temple is better
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:53 AM
Sep 2012
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/14/AR2007121401846.html

In Mitt Romney's Neighborhood, A Mormon Temple Casts a Shadow
By Sridhar Pappu
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, December 15, 2007

BELMONT, Mass. -- It is late in the afternoon, just hours after this town's most famous resident and current Republican presidential candidate, Mitt Romney, delivered a speech in Texas to address questions about his Mormon faith. And for all the clamor surrounding him, here at the Boston Massachusetts Temple -- a controversial edifice that Romney helped build -- there is only silence.

In the foyer, men in white suits and women in floor-length white dresses greet those of the Mormon faith who have "temple recommend" cards allowing them entry to the rooms beyond. The immaculate space is devoid of decoration save for a portrait of Jesus tending a flock. Volunteers read Scripture to help pass the time. Could this be what it feels like to sit in the waiting room to heaven?

Even to an outsider, there is a serenity to the grounds. Built of marble imported from Italy, the temple sits on a hill high above this well-heeled suburb, surrounded by tall trees, an immaculate lawn and an even more immaculate parking lot. Though it isn't as luminous as its Washington counterpart, it's said that on clear days you can see the steeple, with its gold-leaf statue of the angel Moroni, five miles away in Harvard Square...

Despite its pristine appearance, though, this temple is the product of a messy civic battle that went all the way to the state's highest court...

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
34. Years ago the community where my disabled daughter now lives had the same complaint about
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 12:02 PM
Sep 2012

a group home for developmentally disabled persons. We the parents went to court and won. The tax rates did not change and it was a great success. IMO a hospice would be even quieter and less obvious. These Rromey's are very greedy.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
43. Rmoney's a classless tacky family, nothing but a bunch of poseurs and proof that
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:07 PM
Sep 2012

money can't buy you class or dignity. I live on the edge of a 1% area (in the 99% area) and see these poseurs all the time. Always chiseling around, putting others down so they can gain a few pennies, they cut in front of "lessers" in line ... SICKENING because that's the only way they feel superior and important.

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