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denem

(11,045 posts)
Sat May 9, 2020, 11:53 AM May 2020

The Lincoln Project people will not will switching back to the Republican Party.

They have burned their bridges. All will be shunned by the GOP for life.

Maybe, just maybe, Republicans could forgive them for taking down trump sometime in the distant future, but the Lincoln Project is doing more than that. They are targeting vulnerable GOP senators in a bid to give Democrats a majority in the Senate.



There's no direction home. They took everything that they could steal.
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The Lincoln Project people will not will switching back to the Republican Party. (Original Post) denem May 2020 OP
The American Nazi party will never accept them back. onecaliberal May 2020 #1
but once the dems take back the senate agingdem May 2020 #2
The Lincoln Project people are GOP radioactive. denem May 2020 #10
I wouldn't trust them unless I knew they didn't support the trillion dollar tax giveaway or mucifer May 2020 #3
They have no place in the Democratic Party denem May 2020 #5
The reality is...unless the left steps up and supports Biden enthusiastically, the party will move Demsrule86 May 2020 #16
The Repuke party has a huge dilemma. roamer65 May 2020 #4
Asymmetric Warfare against the GOP- they are bragging about it. denem May 2020 #6
I donated a small amount per month to them...hubs is out of work...and we give the most to Joe Biden Demsrule86 May 2020 #7
I strongly approve of any effort to take out GOP Senators, denem May 2020 #8
I do too...we can't fix anything without the Senate...and we have a good chance. Demsrule86 May 2020 #24
I welcome their ads brer cat May 2020 #9
I would not welcome their influence in the Democratic Party. denem May 2020 #12
They won't have any influence. roamer65 May 2020 #15
They want revenge. denem May 2020 #18
THIS. roamer65 May 2020 #19
Don't care at all. Their work and history speaks to their damaging our beloved country irisblue May 2020 #11
'That group made republicans appear acceptable' denem May 2020 #14
"Your friends are three: your friend, your friend's friend and the enemy of your enemy" - Imam Ali sop May 2020 #13
I would prefer the Never Trumpers keep their grudge. denem May 2020 #17
That's fine as long as they don't think they get influence on the Democratic Party. DanTex May 2020 #20
Even if their ideas on the issues are right this time? ehrnst May 2020 #28
So, does this mean Peter Daou is pulling the Left to the Center with all his new support of Bernie? ehrnst May 2020 #29
They get me everytime they say Susan Collins is worried In It to Win It May 2020 #21
they're waiting for Tom Cotton to take over the GOP KayF May 2020 #22
They are an interesting group Buckeyeblue May 2020 #23
While I appreciate what they're doing Jake Stern May 2020 #25
They want to remake the Republican Party and have a leading role in it. Midnight Writer May 2020 #26
I'll believe that when I see it. JHB May 2020 #27

agingdem

(7,863 posts)
2. but once the dems take back the senate
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

Rick Wilson, Steve Schmidt, George Conway will start recruiting Republicans to run against them...

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
10. The Lincoln Project people are GOP radioactive.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

No republican will have anything to do with them I believe.

mucifer

(23,573 posts)
3. I wouldn't trust them unless I knew they didn't support the trillion dollar tax giveaway or
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:01 PM
May 2020

I hear they endorse social security, expanding health care, expanding minimum wage.

If they are ok with George W Bush republicanism that is pro corporate and pro greed but would have handled the pandemic much much better than trump, it's not enough for me.

I fear they will want something from Biden in return for their help getting him elected.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
5. They have no place in the Democratic Party
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:05 PM
May 2020

whether it's pushing for 'something from Biden in return', or offering support to conservative Democratic candidates , they should be kept well and truly the outer.

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
16. The reality is...unless the left steps up and supports Biden enthusiastically, the party will move
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:20 PM
May 2020

to moderate voters for national and state elections (in all but the bluest states). We have to win. and that means a 50 state strategy and a Big Tent party. I really do think this is a realignment election...and if we play our cards right, we can get much progressive policy passed...won't make everyone happy but we move forward. Once people got a taste of the ACA, they wanted more and this will happen again.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
4. The Repuke party has a huge dilemma.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:03 PM
May 2020

Either it decides to become a regional, racist party or purge that element and rebuild to become a modern party with modern ideas.

The $50 I gave to the Lincoln project will fuel that conflict.

I believe in asymmetric warfare.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
6. Asymmetric Warfare against the GOP- they are bragging about it.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:07 PM
May 2020
We were able to take an ad we spent $5000 to put on the air and freeze the Trump campaign for two and a half days, where they did nothing else but punch us, lose control of their messaging apparatus, and lost control of their campaign management system.

Rick Wilson
https://www.washingtonian.com/2020/05/08/rick-wilson-donald-trump-mourning-in-america

Demsrule86

(68,703 posts)
7. I donated a small amount per month to them...hubs is out of work...and we give the most to Joe Biden
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:08 PM
May 2020

but those adds are awesome...Bloomberg is pissed I think and won't help us neither will the other rich guy Steyer.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
8. I strongly approve of any effort to take out GOP Senators,
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:11 PM
May 2020

something that appears to be close to the heart of the Lincoln Project guys and gals.

The day will come when I never have to hear Susan Collins' concerns and dissapointments again.

brer cat

(24,620 posts)
9. I welcome their ads
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:14 PM
May 2020

but I reserve my opinion of them until after the election and we see what they do with a Democratic president and Congress.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
12. I would not welcome their influence in the Democratic Party.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:16 PM
May 2020

They are members of an extinct political tradition. We don't need dinosaurs with no place to go. No Goldwaters or Boltons. None of them.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
15. They won't have any influence.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:20 PM
May 2020

Their goal is a purge of the Repuke party.

That conflict serves the interests of the Denocratic party and the nation as a whole.

irisblue

(33,035 posts)
11. Don't care at all. Their work and history speaks to their damaging our beloved country
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:15 PM
May 2020

I like that they are going at apricothellbeast & the Senators.

That group made republicans appear acceptable.

No, don't care

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
14. 'That group made republicans appear acceptable'
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:19 PM
May 2020

That's what consultants to. It's the job description. To be clear, I don't what them, or anyone like them, anywhere near the Democratic Party. They chose the wilderness, and can stay there.

sop

(10,273 posts)
13. "Your friends are three: your friend, your friend's friend and the enemy of your enemy" - Imam Ali
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:18 PM
May 2020

This ancient muslim proverb will be useful...until we get rid of Trump and his henchmen, then the Never Trumpers can be our enemies again.

 

denem

(11,045 posts)
17. I would prefer the Never Trumpers keep their grudge.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:21 PM
May 2020

And continue to target their enemies in the GOP. They hate them. Hate them for leaving them without a party. Losing friends for life. Losing careers. All the rest.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
20. That's fine as long as they don't think they get influence on the Democratic Party.
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:34 PM
May 2020

I'm not interested in David Frum, Bill Kristol, Jennifer Rubin, or any other right-wingers pulling the Dems to the right.

I welcome their votes. I don't welcome their ideas.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
28. Even if their ideas on the issues are right this time?
Mon May 11, 2020, 07:09 PM
May 2020

I thought we were all supposed to put issues first, ideas first and the source last... and not simply reject the idea because one doesn't like the person.

When did you change your mind on this?




But I'll bite - how are they "pulling Dems to the right?" What are some examples of "dems" reacting to their words by steering to the right? To the right on what issues?

Are you finding yourself "pulled to the right" when you peek at what they are writing?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
29. So, does this mean Peter Daou is pulling the Left to the Center with all his new support of Bernie?
Tue May 12, 2020, 01:44 PM
May 2020




KayF

(1,345 posts)
22. they're waiting for Tom Cotton to take over the GOP
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:42 PM
May 2020

Cotton will welcome them back gladly. They'll all just forget about Trump.

Buckeyeblue

(5,502 posts)
23. They are an interesting group
Sat May 9, 2020, 12:43 PM
May 2020

You have to think there are three main things motivating them: 1. Free Trade; 2. They know Putin cannot be trusted; 3. They hate Trump.

Is there a point when Kelly Anne steps away from Trump and tells the world, George is right...

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
25. While I appreciate what they're doing
Sat May 9, 2020, 01:45 PM
May 2020

At the end of the day they are still the same old Neocons we hated in Shrub’s administration.

Make no mistake, they are NOT “moderate” or “centrist”.

They have no beef with social security cuts or bloated defense spending. They’re okey dokey with slashing and burning welfare and steep tax cuts on the rich.

They hate Trump but would be fine with Raygun or Bush.

Midnight Writer

(21,815 posts)
26. They want to remake the Republican Party and have a leading role in it.
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:15 PM
May 2020

They are convinced that the problem with the GOP is Trump, and if they remove him, they can get their Grand Old Party back.

If we had a President Ted Cruz or a President Marco Rubio or a President JEB! Bush, they would think that is just dandy.

To me, they are opportunists.

The only thing I have in common with these guys is our mutual disgust with Donald Trump.

JHB

(37,163 posts)
27. I'll believe that when I see it.
Sat May 9, 2020, 04:24 PM
May 2020

They're still doing what they did before the election: positioning themselves to be the kingmakers in a post-Trump Republican party. They're building the escape route: pretending Trump is an aberration and not the cumulation of the direction they themselves had been taking their party.

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