Although, truth be told I will vote for Joe no matter who he choses.

her "voice" is pitch perfect for the Biden campaign. You don't mess with Kamala.

It is a demotion from the U.S. Senate.

and if he should choose Kamala she'll fit the bill.

Awesome pic of the two of them, JI7.. Do you know when that was taken?

I think Congress starts their new session before the new President so Biden would still have been VP at the time .

.... for Joe to choose his VP from any of the former primary candidates, especially Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren.

First: why I hope he doesn't choose anyone from the primaries, especially Kamala Harris who would better serve where she is or in an appointed position such as Attorney General.

1. There are some candidates who I believe will bring little or nothing to his campaign.
2. There are several candidates that would better serve the country, and themselves by staying in the positions they now hold.
3. There are several candidates who would be ideal choices for key positions in a Biden Administration.
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Second:
The fascination with Kamala Harris baffles me. She would be a poor choice for Biden's VP. Just a few reasons why which seems to have escaped most people.

1. She is from a solid Blue State. No help there.

2. She was barely able to garner 5% of black support during her entire campaign. Minimal help there.

3. She tried several times to discredit Joe Biden and throw him under the bus. All of those attempts failed miserably, and was a major factor in her dropping out of the race.

There are several women, including Val Demings, Gretchen Whitmer, and Susan Rice to name a few who would be much better choices than anyone who ran for the Democratic nomination, including Elizabeth Warren.

..... that nearly all of her VP supporters cite as a prime reason to choose her, therefore it is a legitimate reason to point this out.

And those two are well known, super intelligent and extremely capable.

This is why:
First: why I hope he doesn't choose anyone from the primaries, especially Kamala Harris who would better serve where she is or in an appointed position such as Attorney General.

1. There are some candidates who I believe will bring little or nothing to his campaign.
2. There are several candidates that would better serve the country, and themselves by staying in the positions they now hold.
3. There are several candidates who would be ideal choices for key positions in a Biden Administration.
.

Second:
The fascination with Kamala Harris baffles me. She would be a poor choice for Biden's VP. Just a few reasons why which seems to have escaped most people.

1. She is from a solid Blue State. No help there.

2. She was barely able to garner 5% of black support during her entire campaign. Minimal help there.

3. She tried several times to discredit Joe Biden and throw him under the bus. All of those attempts failed miserably, and was a major factor in her dropping out of the race.

There are several women, including Val Demings, Gretchen Whitmer, and Susan Rice to name a few who would be much better choices than anyone who ran for the Democratic nomination, including Elizabeth Warren.

the best VP for him. He has 1st hand experience for who and what he wants in a VP.. nobody is off limits.

Biden was Obama's primary rival.. that didn't seem to bother Obama.

.... that many people would disagree with my reasoning. I believe it is logical Cha. I will lay it out for you as I have for a few other people in this thread. Like the song lyrics says:

" there ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys, there's only you and me and we just disagree".

here you go
First: why I hope he doesn't choose anyone from the primaries, especially Kamala Harris who would better serve where she is or in an appointed position such as Attorney General.

1. There are some candidates who I believe will bring little or nothing to his campaign.
2. There are several candidates that would better serve the country, and themselves by staying in the positions they now hold.
3. There are several candidates who would be ideal choices for key positions in a Biden Administration.
.

Second:
The fascination with Kamala Harris baffles me. She would be a poor choice for Biden's VP. Just a few reasons why which seems to have escaped most people.

1. She is from a solid Blue State. No help there.

2. She was barely able to garner 5% of black support during her entire campaign. Minimal help there.

3. She tried several times to discredit Joe Biden and throw him under the bus. All of those attempts failed miserably, and was a major factor in her dropping out of the race.

There are several women, including Val Demings, Gretchen Whitmer, and Susan Rice to name a few who would be much better choices than anyone who ran for the Democratic nomination, including Elizabeth Warren.

My next pick would be Biden/Warren.

I am no longer a firm “no” on her. Her record as prosecutor has always bugged me though.

I’m skeptical.

Leave EW in the Senate for a Democratic voice in a Republican't state. IMO, of course.

Two weeks ago Joy Reid had numerous black women on her show and they all agreed a black women as VP would mobilize black women to vote in large numbers.
They said that black women helped Biden win the primary in the south and if he did not choose a black women, it would be a slap in the face to them.

the Primary! And, they are our largest most Loyal Voting Bloc.. I've thought for awhile after Kamala endorsed Joe Biden that Kamala would a great VP candidate. As far as what I know.

for the GE.. and the next 4 years!

We gonna see.

I can make arguments why, on paper, others might make more sense... but I just, watching her recently, watching the fact she keeps getting floated... I get the sense this is gonna happen. If so, very cool. She’d be a great choice.

confidence for me. She had a fantastic start, with a 20,000 crowd rally, and then quickly fizzled out. Jumping on board the M4A train without having clearly thought through it, and then having to backtrack on private healthcare almost immediately, is also an issue.

want Harris to be the VP pick.

In a more "normal" year and if someone like Romney or McCain or even Ted Cruz was President than I think other candidates may have had more of a chance.

But people just wanted someone they knew and was ready right now .

Also, Amy would be great to move Congress along.

candidates out there - I want a tireless, determined attack dog in the Attorney General's office, in charge of a whole Department full of tireless, determined attack dogs.

While on paper she seems to work the type of potential campaign during Covid-19 plays against her strengths and plays up her weaknesses. She showed a certain lack of discipline in the past campaign while brilliant in prepared situations she did not preform very well in hostile environments and could be led to extend to far in friendly ones. The lack of big rallies likely in the coming campaign hurts her chances. Except in a generic sense she doesn't have a deep well of support with voters that Biden is not likely to already have. That is true with money also.

From the governing standpoint her campaign hurt her also. I was disorganized and she never showed she could take direction nor seize control. She also doesn't have deep connection outside of California yet and has not had the level of connection to the party, power of governing infrastructure to be of immediate help.

None of that excludes her. Indeed with a bit of time she has the raw talent to be a major force. But right now she is neither a bold or safe choice.

She earned herself quite a reputation for going after convictions when the evidence against the accused was flimsy at best. It gave the impression that she was more interested in getting convictions than getting justice. This is exactly the kind of thing that will be brought up during an election campaign, and it would be a annoying distraction in that it is not a made-up complaint. That coupled with being unable to, as you put it, "perform well in hostile environments," would be insurmountable negatives for a selection that brings an implicit endorsement for the nomination for president in 2024.

While Biden is far too much of a diplomat to mention her racial barbs during the debates or her early jumipng on the "get Al Franken" wagon, I'm sure neither have been forgotten, either. Barack Obama showed, with his selection of Jor Biden, how necessary it is to select a VP that you know will never stab you in the back. If I were Joe Biden, I would not be 100% confident that Harris would fit that description.

it will be spun as tough on crime that will play a bit better in the more conservative portions of the electorate making her possibly a bit more acceptable. How that plays with your other point about ambition is the bigger question. They are all ambitious. but the VP is not the president and a demonstration of the ability to temper it is important. In acting it is called focus. That is who the audience is looking at. For the leas the ability to gain focus is important, for the supporting players the ability to shift focus is. Harris has yet to demonstrate that ability.

I think the more damning recent example is her voting proposal. It was clear that from the grassroots perspective the party and Biden were pushing Abrams, from the Washington end they were letting Wyden, Klobuchar, and Coons carry the message. But Harris had to inject herself not in support of those but with her proposal.

The right will expect an overzealous attitude, so we gain nothing from it. On the other hand, zealous prosecution of defendants whose guilt was far from probable will play poorly to people that are from groups who have suffered from exactly that. Those groups are more likely to be loyal to us, and we anger them at our peril. It's Biden's call, of course, but it's not a gamble I would take.

I recently saw a video clip of an interview with Abrams. She is smart and very well-spoken. Whether she has the necessary foreign policy experience a VP MUST bring with them to be effective, I am not qualified to say. I don't know her resumé that well.

I am highly uncomfortable with all the "must be" talk. I was already uncomfortable with Biden promising a woman running mate. Why limit the choices? Again, his call, and I understand why he made it. Luckily for him, the choices are full of good picks. But now, it has to be a woman of this or a woman of that. Pretty soon, I expect to see posts demanding he pick a woman of mixed race, half Oriental, half Australian Aborigine, between the ages of 52 and 53, and from a State beginning with one of the first six letters of the alphabet. I just find the whole "must be" talk counter-productive. Since this concerns the likely presidential nominee of our party in 2024, and, if Biden's health takes a turn for the worse, the next president, I think it is highly unwise to arbitrarily limit ourselves.

She was my first presidential choice. I see the same intelligence and zen-like calm I saw in Obama.

It was a low blow to get a short lived bounce after the debate. Then to find out that she had shirts printed prior to the debate because she knew exactly what she planned to do. Smh That left a bad taste in my mouth. I wondered what would Biden’s son would have thought about her doing that. Apparently he was close to Harris. Anyway, if Biden chooses her I will support his decision. I just hope the racist assholes in this country can live with an AA female being second in line to an older president. I thought things would be better after Obama but it is worse. She is impressive but she does not have the “it” favtor that Obama has UNLESS she is cross examine something. I would never,ever want to be in a courtroom with her. 😂

On another note I watched a cooking session with Kamala and Senator Warner. She was teaching him to cook. It was hilarious and a very different side of both of them.

My gut still tells me that he will choose Klobuchar. He seems really comfortable with her. She seems like she would absolutely have his back. They have similar ideals. I don’t know if she is the best candidate since AA don’t seem to care for her. However, Biden does not seem to need her help with that. I hope whoever he chooses will have his back a million percent like he had (and still has) Obama’s back.