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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsYou know it's not really all about the "film", right?
It's the spark in tinder.
We're bombing them in the middle east. I posted a story a few days back. It's title was something like: In Yemen, bombs more plentiful than rain. We're bombing them from drones there and in Pakistan and in Afghanistan and in other places. We've invaded their countries, killed hundreds of thousands if not millions. Grind people down- and sorry, but we have- and it doesn't take much to enrage them. Is it any wonder that many don't distinguish between what an asswipe individual does and our gov't or the populace at large?
We are still bombing them daily? I thought Obama put a stop to that.
and yes.
Obama Finally Opens Up About The Administration's Massive Drone War
The drone war: It's a sticking point among liberals and activists, and a subject about which Obama has stealthily avoided going into depth.
Until now.
CNN's Jessica Yellin sat down with Obama for an interview, which was posted on 9/11 at 5 p.m.
"You know, drones are one tool that we use. And our criteria for using them is very tight and very strict. It has to be a target that is authorized by our laws. It has to be a threat that is serious and not speculative," Obama tells Jessica. "And we've got to make sure that in whatever operations we conduct, you know, we are very careful about avoiding civilian casualties. And in fact, there are a whole bunch of situations where we will not engage in operations if we think that there's gonna be civilian casualties involved."
But just last week, a drone strike in Yemen killed ten civilians. In fact, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism reports that there have been approximately 116 drone strikes in Yemen alone. Often, the report says, Yemen will step up to take the blame for strikes which go off course (as they promptly did with the aforementioned strike).
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-finally-gets-personal-on-the-subject-of-drones-2012-9#ixzz26Ss5JbV4
MrDiaz
(731 posts)Why our president, has a drone war going on, guantanamo bay is still in use, the patriot act was expanded and resigned, and the bush tax cuts were resigned. And also a judge recently ruled that the part in the NDAA 2012 where the government can indefinitely detain american citizens without trial is unconstitutional, and within 24 hours Obama appealed it! I think I woke up in BIZZARRO world. I don't know what is going on anymore.
msongs
(67,413 posts)Perfect!
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)and imagine how it must be.
It calls for some real serious hard core exercises in empathy.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)Behngazi appears to have been preplanned to some extent
The movie had been out for months. The events started before it could be traced to the US or anywhere else for that matter
There are groups of people who believe they have the right to defend their religion's honor via rioting and killing others who had nothing to do with it.
If there hadn't been as much as a firecracker set off in the last 10 years some of this would have happened.
slackmaster
(60,567 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Who would have ever thought they might resent it?
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)has been doing a great job the last couple of nights trying to get everyone's attention away from that stupid movie.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...yet we Americans still react with astonishment when, after we kill people in other countries whenever and however the hell we want to, they react by killing us back.
countryjake
(8,554 posts)http://yemenpost.net/Detail123456789.aspx?ID=1&SubID=5960
and after reading that, it made me dig up another old bookmark of an article I remembered I had in my Yemen file, just to check the date on it.
US makes a drone attack a day in Yemen
http://www.thenational.ae/news/world/middle-east/us-makes-a-drone-attack-a-day-in-yemen
Hakim Almasmari makes his points very well and I can only imagine the horror that ordinary Yemenis have experienced throughout this past long year. Raining drones.
Thank you for your post, both this one and the other one from early this week.
In the skies of the Arab desert nation of Yemen, drones are more common than rain.
posted by cali - Mon Sep 10, 2012, 08:37 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021311700
cali
(114,904 posts)99Forever
(14,524 posts)Other nations and peoples don't agree. It's not in the least surprising that Americans are targets over there. What's surprising is that it doesn't happen frequently.
When I suggested that perhaps the movie was only a part of what caused the anger and violence, I was quickly kneejerked that I was "excusing the murderers" and assorted other happy horse dung that was, to put it nicely, little more than an insult to my intelligence. I sometimes wonder if some of these people have ever ventured outside the county they were born in.
cali
(114,904 posts)The self-righteous crap about how we don't riot over insults to Christianity is reflective of shallow, self-absorbed "thinking".
spanone
(135,841 posts)chill_wind
(13,514 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)provenance of the film, i wouldn't be surprised if the film was some kind of red herring used to explain the violence to a gullible public. it's been out there for awhile, but came to public attention only as the violence did.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)Maybe there were some co-ordinated international attacks/riots/uprisings and it is embarrassing so this film gets trotted out to distract and change the subject.
limpyhobbler
(8,244 posts)We're probably gonna start sending in more drones into more countries now.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)The continuous self-righteous "we don't riot and kill people when our religions(s) are insulted, just makes me despair when I see it here.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)I wonder if belief in freedom, democracy and tolerance in America would survive such events. I would wonder if belief in freedom, democracy and tolerance would survive on DU. Judging by the last couple of days, I doubt it.