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(23,295 posts)Every time. Love this guy.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)She's a cutie patootie!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,370 posts)A cutie patootie schmootie
Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)redqueen
(115,103 posts)Sooooooo cute.
HarveyDarkey
(9,077 posts)I wonder if she's really old enough to know who he is though.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)1) Everyone is happy and focusing attention on this kind-eyed man
2) He sends out good vibes.
I'm with her---love him, too!
ismnotwasm
(41,988 posts)Love it
skeewee08
(1,983 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)CTyankee
(63,912 posts)She's gonna break a few hearts...
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)Do you sincerely see this child as sexually communicating with the president??
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)I made that clear.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)the void that you operate in.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)The sexualization of children is something I take seriously and how we use our language affects our perceptions of the world. 3 year olds don't "flirt" they don't have "boyfriends and girlfriends" in the romantic sense. They are too young to be afflicted with nonsense like "lady-killer" or "heart breaker". All of these common phrases in the context of children are people not paying attention to what they are saying and doing. Stay ignorant of it if you choose, but you can fuggoff to think I will be silent about it.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Not sure why you think a "come on" look is sexual--no one else does. Remedial English may be in order. The hyphenated "come-on" is a noun, and has more to do with where your mind is. "Come on" functions as a verb and an adverb, similar to "let's go". So before you tell anyone else to fuck off, you may wish to rid yourself of your harmful and embarrassing ignorance.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)the poster says the toddler is giving the president "such a come on look." For me, especially following the sexualized OP, the "come on look" is a sexualized phrase, but I suppose it may have meant "something intended to attract as in an advertisement." Most likely it follows the same reasoning so many others use sexual phrases to refer to children's behavior - they just aren't thinking about what they are saying.
So here is "a come on" from the top hit on google: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/come_on
Noun
come on (plural come ons)
Something intended to attract, as in an advertisement.
The free offers are just come ons to get you in the store so the sales staff can work on you.
A statement or sometimes action reflecting sexual or relational interest.
I thought he'd asked me to lunch to discuss business; I wasn't expecting a come on.
There is also the "come hither look": http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/come-hither+look
come-hither look
an alluring or seductive look or glance, usually done by a woman. She blinked her bedroom eyes and gave him a come-hither look. She had mastered the come-hither look, but was not ready for the next part.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I share it. I have two daughters and 3 granddaughters. I did not mean to upset you or anyone. I think the President saw a very cute little girl who was waving at him and giving him a very nice smile. That is all. It is all I meant and all that I think was intended judging by the photo sequence. She held out her arms to be hugged by the President. He does this with lots of babies and young kids. They see a kind of warmth and niceness in him. I think that is a wonderful thing about Obama.
You are right to be vigilant about child sexual abuse. But I am a lifelong feminist in my early 70s and I cherish the girls and young women in my own family, as I am sure you do in yours.
I am not angry with you because I think your heart is in the right place. You simply assumed the worst about my post and it is definitely not the case.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)By the time I got to you, I was pretty, er, caffeinated. hahaha. Thanks for understanding and I apologize that I didn't communicate less emotionally with you. You are kind and noble to acknowledge my heart's place. Have a wonderful day and, although I have yet to "get" one before anyone else does, I look forward to your art posts which I adore.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)I've got another puzzler for you to work on today. Tune into GD around 5 pm...
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)am working on a Masters in Applied Communication now. I will be absorbing all the art history I can when I am finished and will be ready for your puzzles....in 2014. hahahahaha.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)a Master's in Art History but I don't have it in me for yet another Master's degree (the last one took 4 1/2 years to complete). So in retirement I just read, research and go to art museums...
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)Although the poster may not have meant to offend, I do appreciate you being so dedicated to smacking down the mere suggestion that children are sexual or that their actions can somehow be interpreted as sexual.
This is dangerous, dangerous ground. I don't think the average person realizes that pedophiles sexualize children when children are not being sexual. They assign sexual motives to children, which is one of the ways they use to justify child rape in their own mind.
We don't need people, or the media or advertisers playing into the very flawed thinking of the pedophile. Because a pedophile will see these remarks--and use them to further justify child rape.
I'm not telling you anything that you don't all ready know, RadiationTherapy--but I just wanted you to know that I understand what you are fighting for. Again, maybe that poster didn't realize how dangerous his words could be--and I applaud you for fighting this fight.
As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse it is very healing to know that others get it. Because so many do not.
Thank you.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)I don't mind taking this unpopular position because, often, whether they like me or hate me, people tend to notice after it has been pointed out a few times. Facebook is littered with images and text that sexualize children. There is one of a beautiful baby boy who is at a table with a funny look on his face and pointing. The parents' beers are on the table so the text tends to imply the boy is regaling us with a drunken story. Many of those stories are sexual ones with cartoons, babysitters, and other children as the object. It is bizarre to me that this is so often overlooked.
Hugs to you and to every child.
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life long demo
(1,113 posts)Adorable little girl and what a proud dad looking on.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)It's Sascha and Malia who should be worried, not Michelle. (Just joking.)
cr8tvlde
(1,185 posts)Lucky little girl with some awesome photos for a lifetime.
onethatcares
(16,169 posts)nah, neither do I, all the kids ran away from him or cried.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)The expression on the Chimp's face may be the dumbest in the history of humanity.
zonkers
(5,865 posts)onecent
(6,096 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)Kids don't like to go to strangers most of the time.
She is so adorable!
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)The "no shame" part makes it even more creepy.
We must pay closer attention to the implications of the language we choose. Jeez.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)else sees it as simply a cute pic like so many others the President has taken with children. You need to check your perceptions and not make us wonder about you.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)is now corrected.
"Flirting or coquetry is a sexual activity involving verbal or written communication as well as body language by one person to another, suggesting an interest in a deeper relationship with the other person."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flirting
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RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)as a sexual being.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)FSogol
(45,488 posts)flirt
verb (used without object)
1. to court triflingly or act amorously without serious intentions; play at love; coquet.
2. to trifle or toy, as with an idea: She flirted with the notion of buying a sports car.
3. to move with a jerk or jerks; dart about: butterflies flirting from flower to flower.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)girl? That's what context does; it slightly alters meanings into a more specific connotation.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)instead see a little girl. It is a humorous juxtaposition.
Would calling a little girl a cutie, sweetie, or darling raise your sexual hackles? Buy a clue.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)If she was called a cutie, sweetie, or darling, I would not be concerned (as you can see by looking through the rest of this thread), but when people call women that, I am concerned because it infantalizes them. Sexualizing children and infantalizing adults are definitely peeves of mine.
FSogol
(45,488 posts)RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)Please don't be a killjoy. Pretty please?
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)Surely "Female supporter flirts with president...no shame" is a sexualization for no purpose. Do you find the OP to be an effective way of communicating what happens in the photos? Do you think sexualizing scenarios with small children is normal?
VWolf
(3,944 posts)and therefore isn't humorous. Not sure where you're going with this.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)And you need only read my posts to see that "where I am going with this" is bringing awareness to the use of sexualized language in relation to children.
VWolf
(3,944 posts)The point of the OP was to satirize the media's obsession with scandal. As soon as the reader sees that it's a child and not an adult, s/he understands that it's a joke. Do YOU not understand?
I think I'm done with this. It's obviously not going anywhere.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)ignore.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)In any case, I hope you will remember this thread and pay closer attention to the words you choose.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)The sexual connotations in the text the OP chose was their own and "satirizing the media's obsession with scandal" could have been done a dozen other ways. The bottom line for me is that language entails perception and sexual language in reference to babies, children, and minors reinforces a sexual perception of them.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)little girls are often inappropriately sexualized in our society.
That said, I did not see that here at all, and I'm really sorry you couldn't enjoy this thread for what it was meant to be.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)to that ginormous stick up your butt.
Lighten up, Francis.
hue
(4,949 posts)get the red out
(13,466 posts)What a precious little girl! Mr. President is pretty adorable himself.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)And her pop looks very proud.
MadrasT
(7,237 posts)RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)intentionally creates an image of an adult woman flirting in order to have a "gotcha" moment when we see it is a little girl. So, again, your language sexualized a scenario between our president and a 3 year old.
REWRITE!! hahahahahahahahaa
onecent
(6,096 posts)a picture such as this...and know that our President loves all people. You ARE SICK AND PERVERTED.
Go rewrite you life buddy.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)I don't mind your thoughtless mischaracterization of my person, but can you in any way refute my argument?
onecent
(6,096 posts)in in the right or left shaker.
RadiationTherapy
(5,818 posts)Also, do you think the "female supporter" is a shameless flirt in these pictures?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Lighten up, Francis.
Sid
malaise
(269,035 posts)Gorgeous
heaven05
(18,124 posts)the 'little' disagreement in this thread. The photos and comments seem pretty innocent to me. Our President is very likable and it shows in people who meet him, in all age brackets. lighten up people we have more important worries right now. Totally defeating and trashing, as in send to the city dump, Mitt-twit and aynryan.
polly7
(20,582 posts)Can you imagine all the excitement and chatter at home later? What a little sweetheart.
avebury
(10,952 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)But these have got to be the cutest.
outsideworld
(601 posts)SOOO cuuuute .thanks for sharing
kimbutgar
(21,157 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)Adorable little thing. Just give her whatever she wants. I couldn't say no to that face.
hamsterjill
(15,221 posts)Children and animals have a natural sense of who to trust.
Digital Puppy
(496 posts)CanonRay
(14,104 posts)She's going to break some hearts...
Skittles
(153,164 posts)Wait Wut
(8,492 posts)What an angel!
ClusterFreak
(3,112 posts)Anyone else have this problem? I have proper antivirus software and haven't had this problem in probably five years.
Great pics but this "Magic 106" radio station website appears to have some serious malware issues or something.
BootinUp
(47,159 posts)LadyHawkAZ
(6,199 posts)Thanks for posting.
Lugnut
(9,791 posts)That's precious.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)No one lets Romney near their child.
YellaDog1950
(44 posts)First, how absolutely adoreable. The Dad, his daughter and the President are all loving every moment of that short meeting. And Second, this is also who the President is fighting for, the generations who come after us.