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cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:43 PM Sep 2012

My theory: The "film" is merely a con-game

Making a movie is a standard fraud-vehicle. It's exciting... something people want to be part of. The accounting is impossible. Potential investors know nothing about the biz. But everyone knows that some piece of cheese "might be the next Blair Witch Project," turning a sub-amatuer budget in a $100 million+ return.

Ed Wood's Plan 9 From Outer Space was funded by a church, and you can imagine how inventive Ed Wood's pitch was... Probably, "It is about the physical resurrection of the dead, as foretold in Revelations!"

For a small investment this guy gets to go around raising money for his film. (If "100 Jewish" investors contributed to a film that cost $60,000 that's a good profit, since one assumes the investors would be forking over more than $600 each. But of course there are probably no 100 investors. That's what you say to one investor because people perceive safety in numbers.)

Since the $60,000 came from his wife in Egypt, one assumes that was raised in the Coptic Christian community for a film about the travails of Egyptian Coptics. (That is what the people acting in the film were told it was about.)

So now you have this reel of film of people in a fake desert wearing middle-eastern garb. And you already have maxed out the Coptic contributions. So now you start peddling it to American fundamentalists as an expose of Islam, after re-dubbing the existing dialog. And you get whatever money you can get from them.

And you seek RW jewish investors, probably again somewhat changing your description of the project to appeal to that group, and creating a persona of an Isreali-American director for that purpose. (I doubt potential Coptic investors in Egypt were told the same... they would have been told that the director was an Egyptian Coptic living in America.)

And so on.

The 14 minutes of gibberish on youtube is "setting up the store," in con-game parlance. You have to establish a fornt... have something to show people. From interviewing the actors and technical people one can probably sort out whether the youtube excerpt is the entire thing. How many scenes were even shot?

But since one seeks investors to *complete* the project, nothing more is needed.

Since the screenplay was written while he was in prison for bank-fraud this all seems the likeliest explanation.

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My theory: The "film" is merely a con-game (Original Post) cthulu2016 Sep 2012 OP
Congratulations. However, I suspect that if the money trail is ever fully uncovered, PDJane Sep 2012 #1
If that were true (which is incredibly unlikely) then you would need cthulu2016 Sep 2012 #2
There are a lot of things that Christians can and do take offense at, too. PDJane Sep 2012 #4
Its possible. HooptieWagon Sep 2012 #3

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. Congratulations. However, I suspect that if the money trail is ever fully uncovered,
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:51 PM
Sep 2012

It will lead right back to the good ol' US of A, and the Romney camp. It's too pat, and it stinks.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
2. If that were true (which is incredibly unlikely) then you would need
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:06 PM
Sep 2012

to establish the Romney campaign's connection to Al Nas TV in Egypt because without controlling Al Nas' programing there is no reasonable expectation of anyone ever even hearing of the thing.

And if anyone has evidence that the Romney campaign is controlling Egyptian religious satellite TV broadcasts to conspire to attack American embassies then the film itself would mean nothing... it would be about the 100th most damaging aspect of the story.

There was no reasonable expectation of this youtube clip causing any result. People who think there was are guilty of the great error of "reading history backward."

Joe Smith won the lottery.
The odds of Joe Smith winning the lottery are infinitesimal.
Hence there must have been a conspiracy of some sort to account for the incredible result of Joe Smith winning the lottery.

Did Danish cartoonists draw cartoons with the intent of being murdered? Probably not.

Did Salman Rushdie write The Satanic Verses for the purpose of being the subject of a Fatwa. Of course not. He's a serious artist.

Just because every Muslim hate-fest has an object does not mean that all objects cause Muslim hate-fest.

The world is full of things Muslims can take offense at.

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
4. There are a lot of things that Christians can and do take offense at, too.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:16 PM
Sep 2012

And there are always nuts that take it into their heads to deface mosques, kill people and burn the koran. Islam has a great deal to take offense at, at times.

However, a great many of those things that they take offense at can be traced to the west, and in particular, to the US.

Mind you, my reason for including Romney and the GOP in this had to do with something that tweaked my radar; it partly has to do with that smug little smile Romney had after attacking the POTUS, and the intriguing way that it all shifted to Ms. Clinton.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
3. Its possible.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:11 PM
Sep 2012

Right now all we know is that "Sam Bacile" violated probation by posting on the internet. Thats enough to throw his ass in jail. Then investigators can start questioning him and find out more. It seems so far, that its the media doing all the investigating.

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