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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHELP! I am getting slammed on FB over the lack of security in Benghazi...
Does anybody know who is in charge of consular security? Everybody knows that I am an Obama supporter and I have been hammering Romney for his comments of the past few days. Well, they are hammering back and THEY are NOT unarmed! I have had at least four articles cited on my wall that state that security at the Benghazi consulate was too light and that the Libyan security guards laid down their weapons and fled when the consulate was attacked.
Two of the articles being cited:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19605322
http://world.time.com/2012/09/13/did-the-u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-not-have-enough-security/
The other two articles are ones that have been posted here on the subject already. I have tried googling it several different ways, but all I am getting is information from the past couple of days and right wing bloggers. (BTW...why do right wing bloggers always pop up first? Aren't there any left wing bloggers??)
nanabugg
(2,198 posts)zealots will spread these lies.
renie408
(9,854 posts)I think somebody may have screwed up here. I am NOT saying it was something that either Hillary or Obama could have known, but it does look like at least the Benghazi security was very lax for the area on 9/11.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)DURHAM D
(32,610 posts)It has happened before and it will happen again. I have close family members who have worked for the State Department, including overseas. They are always at risk and they know it, but yet they serve.
I would not fight with those on facebook - they sound like assholes.
atreides1
(16,079 posts)The decision was made by someone on or near the area:
"But sources have told the BBC that on the advice of a US diplomatic regional security officer, the mission in Benghazi was not given the full contract despite lobbying by private contractors."
It seems to have been a well planned military operation:
"This was a well-crafted military operation [by the attackers]," said former Libyan jihadist Noman Benotman. "They would have carried out at least two weeks of surveillance."
And regardless of the security, if there was an informant it wouldn't have mattered, the attackers would have compensated for it:
"Meanwhile the attackers appeared to know exactly where staff were being taken to and fired on a second building supposed to be a safe haven, prompting suspicions they had a prior informant inside the mission."
bakpakr
(168 posts)How much security is enough. Is a squad of Marines enough, Platoon, Company, Brigade, Battalion enough? There is NO amount of security available if someone or in this case a mob truly wants to do you harm IT WILL HAPPEN. You may be able to delay it but you cannot stop it.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)with all those warnings about imminent attacks before 9/11?
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)Bush had all kinds of warning before 9/11 and went on vacation.
Because we had to be respectful, we were not allowed to criticize the president for his gross inadequacies.
WE were not allowed to criticize Bush at all after the attacks, even as he pushed for two unrelated wars.
Bin Laden was one person, maybe with friends, but he didn't represent a country.
Why have we killed so many innocents over a crime committed by a few people?
And again, they are pushing for war, when there are a few criminals that need to be held accountable, not the entire middle east.
Do they think that pushing for war and killing is what God wants them to do.
Do they think supporting liars, pointing the finger at others....it what God tells them to do?
They feel the right to judge and attack Obama why exactly?
The basic tenet of Christianity which many claim to follow, 'treat others how you want to be treated'
That's what we did.
That's not what they do.
If they cannot see this, They are assholes with no conscience or remorse and no amount of respectful discourse will change their minds.
renie408
(9,854 posts)We bitched about him ignoring the warnings. We can't excuse OUR guy if something similar has happened.
And really, I just want to know who is responsible for consular security.
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)but that Bastard Romney was blaming Obama before the bodies were cold.
budkin
(6,703 posts)You will never change anyone's mind on there.
renie408
(9,854 posts)who said that she had been reading the stuff I was posting and that she could not bring herself to vote for Mitt Romney. She probably won't vote for Obama, either, but at least she isn't for Romney.
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)you never know how many you are reaching...keep up the good work!
LeftinOH
(5,354 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)Sparkly
(24,149 posts)Do these people think having the ambassadors shoot a few rounds into the crowd would calm it all down and create peace?!?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)renie408
(9,854 posts)That does help.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)BTW, when searching on Google, try looking specifically in the "News" section. That's where I find most non-faux related info and current events.
RepublicansRZombies
(982 posts)How could Rumsfeld not know the WTC had been hit until a plane hit the pentagon?
THAT is what they call leadership.
Just turn it on them.
I guess the only way to deal with them is to out their absurd hypocrisy and stupidity.
They think if they keep doing the attacking, no one is looking at them.
We cannot let them get away with this stupid bullshit anymore.
There are people dying because of their stupid shit! WE have real problems to deal with in this country without them trying to make everything worse!!
BanTheGOP
(1,068 posts)The blood of Chris Stevens, the three other Americans, and all the innocent Libyans killed are on the hands of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and the entire republican establishment. Obama is ZERO percent responsible for this unfortunate incident, but it is the Bush Doctrine that is completely at fault. They MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE on this alone by the world courts ASAP!