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renie408

(9,854 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:03 PM Sep 2012

HELP! I am getting slammed on FB over the lack of security in Benghazi...

Does anybody know who is in charge of consular security? Everybody knows that I am an Obama supporter and I have been hammering Romney for his comments of the past few days. Well, they are hammering back and THEY are NOT unarmed! I have had at least four articles cited on my wall that state that security at the Benghazi consulate was too light and that the Libyan security guards laid down their weapons and fled when the consulate was attacked.

Two of the articles being cited:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-19605322


http://world.time.com/2012/09/13/did-the-u-s-consulate-in-benghazi-not-have-enough-security/

The other two articles are ones that have been posted here on the subject already. I have tried googling it several different ways, but all I am getting is information from the past couple of days and right wing bloggers. (BTW...why do right wing bloggers always pop up first? Aren't there any left wing bloggers??)

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HELP! I am getting slammed on FB over the lack of security in Benghazi... (Original Post) renie408 Sep 2012 OP
Same thing happening all over. Germany Embassy also. Only the simple-minded, anti-Obama nanabugg Sep 2012 #1
Listen, I am not an anti-Obama zealot and I am not so sure it was a lie. renie408 Sep 2012 #6
Here's a post that answers your question about consular security most thoroughly: leveymg Sep 2012 #17
People died so there was not enough security or enough caution. EOS DURHAM D Sep 2012 #2
Maybe they should read the story atreides1 Sep 2012 #3
Ask them as I do bakpakr Sep 2012 #4
Exactly. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #5
How much security should the Bush Admin have activated deutsey Sep 2012 #7
you could ask how they could possibly be so hypocritical in the face of reports on 9/11 RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #8
That's just it...that is the EXACT argument that we have used to go after Bush all this time. renie408 Sep 2012 #15
we weren't allowed to talk about that until years later RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #21
Just delete those people... arguing on Facebook is a total waste of time budkin Sep 2012 #9
Actually, I just got a private message today from a woman renie408 Sep 2012 #11
right on! RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #20
It's a Consulate, not a military base. n/t LeftinOH Sep 2012 #10
Thank you. That is so informative and helpful. renie408 Sep 2012 #12
My thoughts exactly. Sparkly Sep 2012 #13
Don't know if this will be helpful or not justiceischeap Sep 2012 #14
THANK YOU! renie408 Sep 2012 #16
Good. Glad I could help. justiceischeap Sep 2012 #19
Where were the fucking fighter jets on 9/11? RepublicansRZombies Sep 2012 #18
Let's be clear...the SEEDS of all of this discord was caused by GEORGE W. BUSH!! BanTheGOP Sep 2012 #22
 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
1. Same thing happening all over. Germany Embassy also. Only the simple-minded, anti-Obama
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:07 PM
Sep 2012

zealots will spread these lies.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
6. Listen, I am not an anti-Obama zealot and I am not so sure it was a lie.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:25 PM
Sep 2012

I think somebody may have screwed up here. I am NOT saying it was something that either Hillary or Obama could have known, but it does look like at least the Benghazi security was very lax for the area on 9/11.

DURHAM D

(32,610 posts)
2. People died so there was not enough security or enough caution. EOS
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:12 PM
Sep 2012

It has happened before and it will happen again. I have close family members who have worked for the State Department, including overseas. They are always at risk and they know it, but yet they serve.

I would not fight with those on facebook - they sound like assholes.

atreides1

(16,079 posts)
3. Maybe they should read the story
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:14 PM
Sep 2012

The decision was made by someone on or near the area:
"But sources have told the BBC that on the advice of a US diplomatic regional security officer, the mission in Benghazi was not given the full contract despite lobbying by private contractors."

It seems to have been a well planned military operation:
"This was a well-crafted military operation [by the attackers]," said former Libyan jihadist Noman Benotman. "They would have carried out at least two weeks of surveillance."

And regardless of the security, if there was an informant it wouldn't have mattered, the attackers would have compensated for it:
"Meanwhile the attackers appeared to know exactly where staff were being taken to and fired on a second building supposed to be a safe haven, prompting suspicions they had a prior informant inside the mission."


bakpakr

(168 posts)
4. Ask them as I do
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:16 PM
Sep 2012

How much security is enough. Is a squad of Marines enough, Platoon, Company, Brigade, Battalion enough? There is NO amount of security available if someone or in this case a mob truly wants to do you harm IT WILL HAPPEN. You may be able to delay it but you cannot stop it.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
7. How much security should the Bush Admin have activated
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:25 PM
Sep 2012

with all those warnings about imminent attacks before 9/11?

 
8. you could ask how they could possibly be so hypocritical in the face of reports on 9/11
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:27 PM
Sep 2012

Bush had all kinds of warning before 9/11 and went on vacation.

Because we had to be respectful, we were not allowed to criticize the president for his gross inadequacies.

WE were not allowed to criticize Bush at all after the attacks, even as he pushed for two unrelated wars.

Bin Laden was one person, maybe with friends, but he didn't represent a country.

Why have we killed so many innocents over a crime committed by a few people?

And again, they are pushing for war, when there are a few criminals that need to be held accountable, not the entire middle east.

Do they think that pushing for war and killing is what God wants them to do.

Do they think supporting liars, pointing the finger at others....it what God tells them to do?




They feel the right to judge and attack Obama why exactly?

The basic tenet of Christianity which many claim to follow, 'treat others how you want to be treated'

That's what we did.

That's not what they do.

If they cannot see this, They are assholes with no conscience or remorse and no amount of respectful discourse will change their minds.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
15. That's just it...that is the EXACT argument that we have used to go after Bush all this time.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:36 PM
Sep 2012

We bitched about him ignoring the warnings. We can't excuse OUR guy if something similar has happened.

And really, I just want to know who is responsible for consular security.

 
21. we weren't allowed to talk about that until years later
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:44 PM
Sep 2012

but that Bastard Romney was blaming Obama before the bodies were cold.

budkin

(6,703 posts)
9. Just delete those people... arguing on Facebook is a total waste of time
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:30 PM
Sep 2012

You will never change anyone's mind on there.

renie408

(9,854 posts)
11. Actually, I just got a private message today from a woman
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:32 PM
Sep 2012

who said that she had been reading the stuff I was posting and that she could not bring herself to vote for Mitt Romney. She probably won't vote for Obama, either, but at least she isn't for Romney.

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
13. My thoughts exactly.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:34 PM
Sep 2012

Do these people think having the ambassadors shoot a few rounds into the crowd would calm it all down and create peace?!?

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
19. Good. Glad I could help.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:40 PM
Sep 2012

BTW, when searching on Google, try looking specifically in the "News" section. That's where I find most non-faux related info and current events.

 
18. Where were the fucking fighter jets on 9/11?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 03:39 PM
Sep 2012

How could Rumsfeld not know the WTC had been hit until a plane hit the pentagon?

THAT is what they call leadership.


Just turn it on them.

I guess the only way to deal with them is to out their absurd hypocrisy and stupidity.

They think if they keep doing the attacking, no one is looking at them.

We cannot let them get away with this stupid bullshit anymore.

There are people dying because of their stupid shit! WE have real problems to deal with in this country without them trying to make everything worse!!
 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
22. Let's be clear...the SEEDS of all of this discord was caused by GEORGE W. BUSH!!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:20 PM
Sep 2012

The blood of Chris Stevens, the three other Americans, and all the innocent Libyans killed are on the hands of George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and the entire republican establishment. Obama is ZERO percent responsible for this unfortunate incident, but it is the Bush Doctrine that is completely at fault. They MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE on this alone by the world courts ASAP!

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