from drone aircraft.

I'd be pretty pissed off too if I were them.

Just sayin'.

Germany was involved in the war in Afghanistan.

I'm just saying you have to think about why people are actually pissed off at the United States and its allies. It's because of our foreign policy. Don't believe things the corporate media feeds you. Think for yourself.

That some other religious nutbag made.

What did I miss? Do you know something we don't?

They SAY it's because of the movie, but it could be because Obama has been bombing them with drones, or because of monetary gaps, or because we killed Osama and have been crowing about it ever since.

Using that logic, it could be anything, including things that have happened over the past 4 years, but they've saved their wrath for this very moment.

and it doesn't take much to set them off. Much of the blame falls on the shoulders of the US and its allies IMO.

You're funny.

the past decade. Every single victim of these killings has loved ones who are left grieving and to live the rest of their lives without them.

We should stop killing and they should stop killing. But how about we do not become blind to our own actions?

This is why we opposed Bush's wars, because we knew innocent people, including our own troops, would be killed.

We never see the grief we have caused so I guess it's easy to ignore it, unless you are a very empathetic person.

Dahr Jamail did record for history, some of the carnage in Iraq, the dead bodies of children, the grieving parents. But generally in the US we seem to be of the opinion that people other than Americans do not grieve for their loved ones.

How about WE lead the way and stop dropping bombs on other people's countries, then we can deal with criminals who kill our innocent victims, as criminals ought to be dealt with.

All killers are vile criminals and should be found, prosecuted and removed from society for the rest of their lives.

I hope these killers are found quickly AND tried rather than blown away so we can learn who else might be out there planning to murder people. And I hope one day we will have the courage to prosecute our own war criminals.

Today was a very sad day. My heart goes out to the families and loved ones who are left behind.

Take all of the facts about this set of relationships in that region for the last 50 years, leave all of the facts the same, except one: switch our role with the Muslims and their role with us.

and all future generations of my blood to stopping them.

Just one example: IRAQ WAS INNOCENT!

'oh, why are others so mad at the US.' It just gets disgusting. I had someone the other day, a democrat, tell me "ALL" of the people "over there" are basically monsters and are coming to get us if given a chance. I tried to explain to them what the US had done to some countries over the years, I don't know if I was successful or not. Sometimes, the brainwashing is prevalent not only with R's, but D's too IMO.

threat to American security is Energy & the Environment.

I guess the D's just thought that didn't mean anything to the rest of the World, or maybe that threat went away, because, TTE, "it was out of our hands"???

Tired of Democrats who don't know the meaning of the word "proactive", especially here at home!!! = very reactionary.

votes to protect their own job, because you CAN get fired in this state for being "on the wrong side".

Go eat something decadent and listen to some good music and breathe deep.

...is the global attack on the working class and poor from the elite class.

This is the backdrop for the rise in religious fundamentalism worldwide.

There is a growing anger at home and abroad that is being channeled by the media elite away from the true perpetrators.

When you don't have a meaningful job and your home and family are under attack, you have little to lose.

It's about fanatical religious belief, which so many here are willing to excuse as long as it's done in the name of Islam rather that Christianity.

Sure, fanatical religious beliefs are the excuse, but much of Arab Spring was caused by young people who had no economic opportunity. Starving people are dangerous people, and need very little to set them off. Food prices have gone up around the world.

Again, I don't dismiss that fanatical religious beliefs are at work here, but economics is the reason for a lot of discontent, which just adds fuel to the fire.

Interesting...

That people that lack economic opportunity are already discontent and any little thing can set them off. Libya wasn't part of Arab Spring, but since Gaddafi is gone, there is still some unrest in Libya. Add to the mix people that are discontent because their guys didn't gain power, along with economic discontent, then add in religious fanaticism and that's a recipe for rioting, etc.

ANY violence in the name of ANY religion should be condemned. As far as protesting goes, THAT is defended in the U.S. Constitution. And protesting is the only way the vast majority of the poor and repressed can take power back from dictators.

They are violently protesting the supposed dis of their sky god.

Get it?

there is more than one factor involved here - it's not just religion. There was already unrest in Libya for a number of reasons, the movie just happened to be the match that lit the powder keg.

And I have to honestly say, this is looking to me, more and more, like a deliberate attempt to prop up Romney's campaign. I'm sure we will never know, but it never hurts to ask "who benefits" when things like this happen. Although in this instance, Romney is so incompetent that even if it was in some way connected to his candidacy, he didn't benefit.

...to provoke the Middle East. There was no reason for any of this to happen. None. Just a guy (and maybe a pastor) filled with hate who just had to stir the pot with people they know who are volatile and are also filled with hate.

But, I'm not giving anyone a pass on this tragedy. There's enough blame to go around.

And I'm getting to be like you, only it's the news in general. I'm finding I'm avoiding it during the day, but downloading podcasts like Rachel Maddow and Diane Rehm that I can listen to later, where things are discussed civilly and put into some kind of perspective. Getting the news screaming in my ear is just getting to be too much anymore.

...oh, snap. That was then, old news, this is now. We got over it, so should they.