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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI give up "they" are all going to get sick and or die from "the beast."
Ohio in it's "opening things back up" today allowed some restaurants and bars to open up,
I stopped by my local Fox News /Trump loving bar to get an Italian sub (best in the world)
on my way home and stood outside in in the light rain @ >10' to the next person and got hammered
with "why the mask?" (which I took off to drink my beer but @ a social distance), it is no worse
then the flue, go to church if you are scared, and all the time many were less then 3' apart.
I have known some of these people for years but they are gone.
FarPoint
(12,424 posts)in the presence of ongoing fear, anxiety and reinforced by propaganda.
Yes, they may as well walk into traffic with a blindfold being worn.
napi21
(45,806 posts)too. MOST are fairly young & missed going to the Mall all the time & meeting their friends there. I'm guessing most of them will be lucky and not get infected, but I'm positive some will get the virus & THEN change their mind...too late! One of my granddaughters & her boyfriend both believe this virus isa like the flu we deal with every year and have spent HOURS arguing their point with anyone who will listen. They spread their message on social media where they seem to have lots of people agree with them.
I really hope you & I are proven wrong, but fear were not. We'll see in about a month.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)EVERY MAY, A herd of viruses thunders through East Africa in one of the greatest migrations in the natural world.
For a few months, 1.3 million wildebeest head north through the Serengeti in search of food and water. There are so many of them that their lines can stretch from one horizon to the next. And almost every one of these animals is infected by a virus called acelaphine herpesvirus 1 (AlHV-1).
250,000: Number of wildebeest who die during the annual migration, either from thirst or starvation or disease
doc03
(35,359 posts)luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)Im seeing some really appalling photos of bar crowds around town tonight.
irisblue
(33,012 posts)Botany
(70,551 posts)is just insane.
Columbus, OH
Franklin County
As of Sat, May 16, 2020, 5:06 AM EDT
CONFIRMED CASES
4,330
+ 16.7%Since last week
DEATHS
156
+ 36.8%Since last week
luvs2sing
(2,220 posts)all over my FB feed. Love that many of my friends are tweeting them to DeWine. We went out for a drive last night cuz our cars never get driven anymore. Everywhere we saw a patio, it was jammed.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)Celerity
(43,463 posts)Most of those people in that picture look in the under 25 years old cohort, and thus have an extraordinarily low (71 total COVID-19 deaths per the CDC have been under 25 years old, out of 104 million people) chance of death, so they do not give a shit (to be blunt.)
It is going to be Boomers and up versus the younger Gen Xers and then Millennials (the oldest turn 40 in 7 and a half months) and younger. The vast bulk of DUers are double or even triple my age (I was born in 1996), so there is not a lot of feedback here that relates the feeling of younger people in our own social groups. The lack of death/severe illness risk for us is a major subject with my peers, I can assure you. I also assume that that type of attitude and expressed (verbally/physically) behaviour would be met with extreme outrage (properly so, IMHO.) here. I am but the messenger, I do not share this cavalier attitude of which I am speaking.
https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku/data
Under 15 years of age (over 61 million people in the US) 12 total documented COVID-19 deaths in that cohort.
Under 25 years of age (over 104 million people), 71 total documented COVID-19 deaths (59 plus 12)
Under 35 years of age (over 150 million people) 459 total deaths (71 plus 388)
Under 45 years of age (over 191 million people) 1432 total documented deaths (459 + 973)
99% of all US CDC documented COVID deaths have come from the 35 years of age and over cohort
97% of all US CDC documented COVID deaths have come from the 45 years of age and over cohort
92% from the 55 years of age and over cohort
Even if you multiply those deaths time 1.65 (as the totals are not completely up to date and 1.65 gets the totals for all age cohorts to around 90,500 COVID-19 deaths for the US), the percentages and raw numbers are so, so low
Here in Sweden, the lower age cohorts also have lower death rates, even after adjusting for population, and remember, we have not ever locked down, nor shut our under high school-level schools the whole time
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa (these numbers are completely up to date, and we are quite liberal with cause of death attribution, moreso than our undercounting neighbours in Norway, Denmark, and Finland)
One COVID-19 death under 20 years of age (a 4 year old, last week, with massive comorbidity, we still have zero deaths ages 5 to 19)
9 total deaths under 30yo (8 + 1)
21 total deaths under 40yo (12 + 9)
58 total deaths under 50 (37 + 21)
99% of COVID-19 deaths here in Sweden have been over 50 years of age
95% of the COVID-19 deaths here have been over 60yo
88% of the COVID-19 deaths here been over 70 years of age
66% of the COVID-19 deaths here been over 80 years old
25% of the COVID-19 deaths here been over 90 years old
Maraya1969
(22,490 posts)but I think it's ok to lie about even if you aren't.
captain queeg
(10,224 posts)Theyll just get very mild symptoms which will reinforce their belief that its all overblown. Then theyll be even more obnoxious.