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Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:13 PM May 2020

There is a way for Agent Orange to steal the election, without russians...

As has been pointed out.. he cannot postpone the election. He cannot declare it 'invalid.

However...

If he has enough red state governors in his pocket, he can get them to 'cancel the election' in their state due to the pandemic, thinking of their citizens (barf) and the slate of electors for the electoral college are voted for by the legislature. thereby giving the orange anus another electoral college victory.

Look it up, it's legal and has been done before.

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sfstaxprep

(9,998 posts)
1. Then What Happens To The Governors In Next Election?
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:20 PM
May 2020

And what about the Governors actually running for re-election?

Many of them would be voted out the next time they ran.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
2. Trump gets another 4 years...
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:21 PM
May 2020

.. there won't be any more elections.. he'll appoint governors of the states that are loyal to him

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
12. That is what I have said from the beginning.
Sat May 16, 2020, 02:24 AM
May 2020

Obama would have been the last president of the U.S.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
3. The election continues with or without participation of all states.
Fri May 15, 2020, 10:41 PM
May 2020

Only the states that hold elections can designate electors, so cancelling the election in red states would guarantee a landslide victory for Biden.

The precedent is in the elections of 1864, during the civil war, when confederate states did not get to vote.

Rosco T.

(6,496 posts)
4. Incorrect...
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:11 PM
May 2020

The Constitution does not require states to assign their electors on the basis of the statewide vote. It does not even require a statewide vote. Rather, it explains that each state “shall appoint” its electors “in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct.” In other words, each state legislature gets to decide how electors are appointed—and, by extension, who gets the vote.

Today, every state legislature has delegated this task to the people. But at first, state legislatures just did it themselves. In the first presidential election, for instance, the legislatures of Connecticut, Delaware, Georgia, New Jersey, and South Carolina appointed electors directly. Eventually, every state moved toward the modern system. But the Supreme Court confirmed in 1892’s McPherson v. Blacker that states were free to revert to the old method, and in 2000’s Bush v. Gore, the court reiterated this point. The majority declared that the state legislature “may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself,” and retains authority to “take back the power to appoint electors” even after switching to a statewide vote.

Put simply, it is perfectly constitutional for a state legislature to scrap statewide elections for president and appoint electors itself. It would also be constitutional for a state legislature to disregard the winner of the statewide vote and assign electors to the loser. And because the Constitution grants legislatures the authority to pick electors this way, Congress cannot stop them.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/03/trump-cancel-election-day-constitution-state-electors-coronavirus.html

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
6. Incorrect. The laws are already set and the governor cannot change them
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:19 PM
May 2020

They can chose however they want to name the electors, but once they do, they cannot change the rules without legislative action.

Xipe Totec

(43,890 posts)
8. You're changing your argument. First it's sabotage election by not voting
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:24 PM
May 2020

Now it's the governor cancels the election and choses the electors.

In states that Trump would've won anyway.

The point is there will be an election on the appointed date, one way or another.

Thekaspervote

(32,785 posts)
11. This!! I think the argument is mixing up federal and state laws
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:12 AM
May 2020

Besides, even if it were true, the red states alone do not hold enough electorates to reach 270

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
9. Well, Let's Think About This
Fri May 15, 2020, 11:34 PM
May 2020

There are red States with Democratic Governors and blue states with Republican Governors. If all of them do this according to Party lines, how does the math work out?

For example, if Florida's Republican Governor cancels Florida's election, that removes Florida's electoral votes from the equation, and Trump needs those electoral votes to win. Likewise with Ohio. If all the red States remove their electoral votes from the total, how can Trump win? I don't get it.

docgee

(870 posts)
10. Plus states like Idaho and Wyoming that would go for trump
Sat May 16, 2020, 12:45 AM
May 2020

would not be able to give their already unfairly skewed 3 electoral votes.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
13. Yes it was done in Colorado in 1876.
Sat May 16, 2020, 03:15 AM
May 2020

The Repuke state legislature at the time said it did not have the time or money to set up an election in 1876. so they just appointed electors to vote for Hayes over Tilden.

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