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uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:20 AM May 2020

CNN Poll: Trump is winning on the economy, That might not matter .... WTF ?!!??

Trump is winning on the economy. That may not matter


https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/15/politics/trump-economy-analysis/index.html

Instead, Trump's more than holding his own on the economy. Right now, it's a strength for him. Such an edge may not matter, however, come this fall's election.

The latest CNN/SSRS national poll puts Trump's approval rating on the economy at 50%. That's just a point below Trump's average since the 2018 midterm elections. It also matches what other polls are finding. Trump scored a 50% approval rating on the economy in an April Marist College poll and a 52% in AP-NORC survey.


YES IT DOES MATTER !!!

America is ... IN ... this economic shit hole because of Trump's inaction at the beginning of the plague and his inaction on response infrastructure NOW !!

In 1941 Stalin wasn't blamed for allowing the Germans to load up 3 million men and equipment on his western border for 6 months in text book denial because .... STALIN CONTROLLED SOVIET MEDIA !!! .... Trump does not control US media.

Does the left in America have ... ANY ... way of influencing a narratives nationwide?!

James Carville is correct

Democrats win arguments

Republicans win elections

Democrats need to fix a lack of control of narrative when it comes to events quick fast, there's no way that a majority of Americans shouldn't be blaming Trump for what's happening economically NOW with the lack of sentinel testing at the least.

What say you?

tia
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ProfessorGAC

(65,122 posts)
1. Not Buying The Interpretation
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:21 AM
May 2020

A truly good economy doesn't give a president a 50% approval.
This is barely treading water.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
3. I Agree, Sir
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:28 AM
May 2020

Treading water while wearing clothes grown more sodden every moment. People are not yet fully aware of what is going on, and its full consequences. As a country, we're still Wiley Coyote six steps over the precipice just before he looks down. There is not going to be any snap-back recovery from depths not yet plumbed.

ProfessorGAC

(65,122 posts)
5. In 2017, Obama Was At 57%.
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:38 AM
May 2020

Just before he was no longer POTUS.
The economy was still on an upswing from the 43 disaster. The next 18 months were all BHO's policies. Approval likely would have gone easily into the 60s.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval_economy-2820.html

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
8. "People are not yet fully aware of what is going on," This is the center of my frustration right
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:43 AM
May 2020

... now and in the end of this peoples lives are in danger.

It should be democratic parties responsibility to tell people what are going on and who's causing their pain.

hatrack

(59,592 posts)
4. 36 million unemployed is not "winning on the economy" . . . .
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:30 AM
May 2020

Slow/stupid news day at CNN, it would appear.

gab13by13

(21,378 posts)
6. Meh, maybe that's CNN/Business
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:39 AM
May 2020

The stock market doesn't need consumer spending when corporations are given trillions of dollars. The market keeps going up while unemployment numbers keep going up. Wall Street has absolutely nothing to do with main street, 1 in 5 families not able to feed their kids doesn't even make Wall Street blink an eye.

uponit7771

(90,348 posts)
10. Why aren't 36 million people pointing straight at Trump is the bottom line. Right now the general
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:47 AM
May 2020

... public is going to blame Hillary's emails cause Trump tole them to and it looks like we'll sit on the sideline and look at that narrative fester and just react.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
14. Yes...
Sat May 16, 2020, 09:15 AM
May 2020

All that socialism and welfare are making the market lazy and it is losing the dignity of work now as they say.

The handouts are probably being misused and spent on luxuries and such.

Norbert

(6,040 posts)
11. This surprises me little
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:27 AM
May 2020

I see several on message boards where there sig line is trump 2020. He hates Hillary and Obama. He is pro gun, pro life* and he is god's chosen president so he has their unconditional support. He could murder their first born and will still get their vote. The economy doesn't matter and if it does it is Nancy and Obama's fault.

Freethinker65

(10,029 posts)
12. Depends on survey takers definition of "economy"?
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:31 AM
May 2020

Trump has done a good job defining the US economy as pretty much only the Stock Market. That appears to be the only way Trump sees to measure the economy. Trade, inflation, employment numbers, deficits, shrinking middle class, GDP, CPI, etc. do not factor into Trump's definition of "economy" it is all about how that Stock Market is performing.

So, from that standpoint, Trump did an excellent job manipulating the market to be artificially high. He publicly lied about COVID-19 and infused the market with Taxpayer cash early this year. He has deregulated and cut environmental/labor laws all attractive for corporation's bottom lines. Trump's tariffs and anti-immigration policies have hurt businesses, but if you have/had connections, waivers are given so the market would rebound.

Plus there is the fact that if taking a survey with many options and you had to rank them from best to worst, Trump has pretty much fucked up everything, so with that in mind he is best at self promotion and self protection, and next...well..., hmmm...I guess the stock market was doing well prior to the pandemic...

No way I would choose Trump's handling of the economy over Biden's, but Trump's self promotion when things were (artificially) looking good stock market wise worked, at least temporarily, on a lot of Americans.

Tech

(1,771 posts)
13. I was reading an earlier Twitter thread about long lines of cars in a well to area for food
Sat May 16, 2020, 08:35 AM
May 2020

give aways. The comments seemed to focus on the niceness of the cars, and on how the "dems" created the whole shut down. I am not on Twitter and I rarely read comments, and this is why. The people who wrote them scare me.

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