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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump's approval rating rarely dips below 40%. So basically 40-45% of the nation
Are scumbags. How exactly do we form a more perfect union with these people? It's really depressing to think about.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)onecaliberal
(32,878 posts)Its that they want to send people to die so they can get their fucking hair and nails done. So they can be served food at a restaurant. They want us to die for their service.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)They can be deliberately stupid even with an above-average IQ. All those Republican senators, the ones with Harvard degrees, are choosing to aid and abet.
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)and he certainly isn't the only Republican Ivy Leaguer. I seem to remember reading that he got good grades, too.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)I think they're sort of stupid opportunists if they think clinging like a barnacle to Trump will help them in their re-elections. But presumably they have some rationale, because none of them actually like him, from what I can tell.
jimfields33
(15,896 posts)But those up this year it might.
dawg day
(7,947 posts)and vilify his father, and rolls over and begs for more crap.
LuvNewcastle
(16,847 posts)And one would think that GOPers would still remember Cruz's speech at their convention in 2016 when he told the delegates to "vote your conscience." I can't stand people who stab me in the back (or in plain sight) and then act friendly with me, but that seems to be how Republicans normally operate.
RainCaster
(10,906 posts)And proud of it.
Skittles
(153,171 posts)there is absolutely NO excuse for supporting that fascist piece of shit - NONE
Baitball Blogger
(46,752 posts)they are also in control in red or purple areas at the state and local level. It's easy to see how they retain power. They're tribal and they cheat.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)Write them off. We need to focus, like the Lincoln Project is, on the 10% that can be (hopefully) swayed to vote against Dirty Don.
sop
(10,224 posts)BComplex
(8,058 posts)Chainfire
(17,582 posts)and extremely short sighted when liberals want to ban free speech because they do not agree with it. Would you also ban the books the Fox people write, or perhaps burn the ones currently in circulation? They have a right to express their opinions, we have a responsibility to fight back in kind.
sop
(10,224 posts)burn books. SCOTUS has repeatedly ruled that even "hate speech" is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment, most recently in 2017 when the "justices unanimously reaffirmed that there is effectively no hate speech exception to the free speech rights protected by the First Amendment."
I am in favor of bringing back the Fairness Doctrine, requiring broadcast licensees to present controversial issues in an "honest, equitable, and balanced" manner, but that would likely be overturned by the courts as also limiting free speech. So, we're stuck with Rupert Murdoch using the freedoms afforded by our First Amendment to divide us and foment hatred.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)MythosMaster
(445 posts)For ignoring his misogyny.
His racism.
His failures as a businessman.
His failures as a spouse.
They gave him a bullhorn.
Now 100000 people are dead.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)pointing out what a pissy, ignorant, stupid, SOB he is.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Say that drinking bleach is ineffective against COVID and may harm you, we really have gone down a hallucinatory rabbit hole. The media in this country just fucking sucks.
Chainfire
(17,582 posts)and they do that to sell advertising. Don't fault the media, fault the advertisers; hit them where it hurts.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)That includes all reporters that treat him with respect.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)"Lose access to what?" has always been my response. Access to his incessant, flagrant lies, blustering bullshit, and toddler tantrums? We don't need a White House press corps standing around with thumbs up their asses to deliver that shit.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Although they are currently better organized, united and controlled than in the past.
In a very real sense, though, the feckless majority of others who didn't bother to keep the hard right out of power are to blame. It's not that the hard right hasn't always trumpeted what they are and what they're capable of. But too many others were spoiled by the wellbeing and rights and protections they were born to during the liberal New Deal era, and thought would always be theirs, to worry about it.
In good times liberals have the numbers to advance society and protect those too foolish to be able to protect themselves. In bad times we don't, and we've had a number of bad times over the centuries.
judeling
(1,086 posts)So I just want to get Trump as close to 40% as possible.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)n/t
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I would like to know the methodology. I still think republicans are over-sampled. I can't prove it, but I know it's true. (stole that from Bill Maher)
Are most of these calls reaching land-lines or cell phones? Do they ask the age and political affiliation of the respondent? I would have to know a lot more to believe that these numbers were correct.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Some are not paying attention much.
Some of the 'Somes' are moveable - imo.
Sugarcoated
(7,726 posts)40% of the VOTING population, not 40% of the country. And we don't engage because they're irrelevant. We go around them, we step over them, or walk over them. Crooked Donnie can't win with just 40% of the voters.
HotTeaBag
(1,206 posts)actually voted in 2016 - so his 'base' is a lot smaller than one would be lead to believe it is.
There are a lot more of us than there are of them - just gotta vote.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,855 posts)The right-wing media is still cheering the idiot, painting him as a victim, etc.
They rarely admit mistakes either, just like the orange blob. You're never going to see someone like Dan Rather on their networks, resigning because he and his helpers goofed on a story.
Once those people got sucked-in -- which was ultimately their own fault, like people who join Scientology -- it's going to be hard to pull them back out.
kentuck
(111,106 posts)He thinks he can swing it his way in the last week or two, with personal attacks and made-up scandals.
madville
(7,412 posts)Because there is actually a phenomenon occurring where about 5-10% are embarrassed or scared to admit publicly they secretly support him so they will decline to answer favorability questions or pick Biden in matchups because that feels more socially acceptable.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Until Fox News is no longer and hate radio is NOT left alone, yeah we are fucked.
Jared K. made in charge of .... and .... and.... should have been the last red flag....
That cracks me up that it was not called out 24/7.
MH1
(17,600 posts)rather than so-called (imagined) "revolutionary change" (Sanders).
Progress has to be gained over time. Social norms will only change over years and generations.
Allowing Trump and his following to take control of the presidency has set us back decades.