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'It eats him alive inside': Trump's latest attack shows endless obsession with Obama
The president seems more interested in blaming his predecessor than tackling the coronavirus so whats driving Trumps fixation?
by David Smith in Washington
Published on Sat 16 May 2020 03.00 EDT
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Observers point to a mix of anti-intellectualism, racism, vengeance and primitive envy over everything from Obamas Nobel peace prize to the scale of his inauguration crowd and social media following.
Ben Rhodes, a former Obama national security aide, tweeted this week: Trumps fact-free fixation on Obama dating back to birtherism is so absurd and stupid that it would be comic if it wasnt so tragic.
Birtherism was a conspiracy theory that Trump started pushing in 2011 (He doesnt have a birth certificate. He may have one but there is something on that birth certificate maybe religion, maybe it says hes a Muslim, I dont know.) . Nine years later, he has come full circle with Obamagate, which accuses his predecessor of working in league with the deep state to frame Trump for colluding with Russia to win the 2016 election.
There is zero evidence for this claim. Indeed, a case could be made that the supposed deep state did more to help Trump than hurt him when the FBI reopened an investigation into his opponent, Hillary Clinton, just before election day. When questioned by reporters, Trump himself has struggled to articulate what Obamagate means. Ned Price, a former CIA analyst, dubbed it a hashtag in search of a scandal.
But his allies in the Republican party and conservative media are stepping up to build a parallel universe where this is the big story and Obama is at the center of it. Sean Hannity, a host on Fox News, demanded: What did Barack Obama know and when did he know it? Over the past week, the channels primetime shows have devoted more coverage to the bogus crimes of Barack Hussein Obama than to the coronavirus pandemic and Trumps mishandling of it.
Tara Setmayer, a former Republican communications director on Capitol Hill, said: Donald Trump always need a foil. This riles up his base because they cling to anything that diverges responsibility for anything from Donald Trump over to someone else. And in this case Barack Obama is the boogeyman of the month.
Beyond political expediency, there is a more profound antipathy at work. From the Iran nuclear deal to the Trans Pacific Partnership, from environmental regulations to the Affordable Care Act, Trump has always seemed to be on a mission to erase his predecessors legacy. With few deep convictions of his own, Obama became a negative reference point for Trump. Between 22 November 2010 and 14 May 2020, he tweeted about Obama 2,933 times, according to the Trump Twitter Archive.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/16/trump-obama-obsession-coronavirus-president
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,664 posts)Well, I wish it would hurry up!
ironflange
(7,781 posts)Let's give it a little more time.
Progressive dog
(6,915 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)That could take a while.
Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Trump is the biggest grudge-holder ever, and he hates to be humiliated in public.
Lochloosa
(16,067 posts)OAITW r.2.0
(24,528 posts)This was most certainly a profoundly humiliating moment from which he has never recovered. And it only gets worse over time as the reality gap between Obama and his Presidential record widens.
I would think Obama would relish the opportunity to testify in front of the Senate and he will again humiliate Trump's disastrous handling of this country's stewardship while in Office.
And then, it will be Trump's turn in the well....
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,664 posts)I often wonder what would have happened if Obama hadn't roasted him.
Disaffected
(4,559 posts)It was endlessly delicious and entertaining but with, with a pretty high degree of certainty, sweet revenge that has had terrible consequences.
Personally, I think he (Obama) may have gone too far. I would have preferred to have seen Trump handed a measured level of scorn rather than abject humiliation.
Marcuse
(7,497 posts)Or he could have taken the high road like John Kerry. I doubt anything would be different today regardless of the roads not taken.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)know it is! He has no sense of humor so he doesn't have to ability to laugh at himself.
Xolodno
(6,398 posts)I remember reading somewhere that he originally wanted to run as a Democrat...but was rebuffed by the party. So he switched to Republican. I forget which book, but Steve Bannon and someone else met Trump prior to the 2008 election on the possibility of entering the race. Bannon told him not a chance, he had to reshape his image first, as it was well known he donated heavily to Democrats.
And that's what he did for eight years, cut of donations to Democrats and sends it instead to Republicans, jumps on the birtherism train, etc.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,372 posts)Ive listened to Woodwards book and several others and they all mention the fact that Trumpy just simply HATES Obama, with a deep, red hot passion.
He hates him because Barack Obama is everything Trumpy has failed to ever be, with the exception of becoming President.
The hilarious takedown of Trumpy at the White House Corespondents dinner made him seethe, according to people that know him, and he pretty much decided at that moment to run for the office, just to show everyone he was able to do it.
His pathology is legend.
And the fact that he is president now is a direct result of him being made fun of by a man who is ten times his better. He ran on the understanding that the pendulum swings in American politics, and there was a shitload of the American electorate who were seriously butthurt that the rational half of us elected Obama twice!
They hated that and gave us Trumpy to punish us! With the help of the Russians, of course.
Stallion
(6,476 posts)...just to piss Trump off
malaise
(269,117 posts)He'll go berserk overnight
leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)Vinca
(50,300 posts)Now I'm wondering if Dear Leader will have to have his own show which will be longer than O's and feature twice as many "celebrities." That would be inspirational.
rainbow4321
(9,974 posts)Cuz he will do *anything* to take attention away from President Obama. Too bad some group that does videos that get shown on building fronts cant display Pres Obamas screen tIme on front of Trumps Washington Hotel...Id say the WH itself but that would get shut down pretty quick.
2naSalit
(86,716 posts)If he doesn't either stroke out or someone finds a tranquilizer dart gun and uses it on him.
SouthernAtheist
(45 posts)I have not heard that Obama was speaking tonight and a quick search doesn't turn anything up. Would you mind terribly filling me in? I only have broadcast television, any chance it's to be found there?
Thank you.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)On NBC or MSNBC, I believe.
I'm not sure about the time.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,345 posts)Link to tweet
Later today, Obama will be the marquee speaker during a virtual graduation ceremony for this years high school seniors called Graduate Together: High School Class of 2020 Commencement, which kicks off at 5 p.m. Pacific and will air as a prime-time special on the major broadcast networks and cable news channels as well as on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, TikTok and other digital platforms. The one-hour event, organized by the LeBron James Family Foundation, XQ Institute and the Entertainment Industry Foundation, will feature an array of celebrities including Alicia Keys, the Jonas Brothers, Timothée Chalamet, Kumail Nanjiani and many others.
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-05-16/how-to-watch-barack-obamas-commencement-addresses-today
SouthernAtheist
(45 posts)I'll try not to miss it.
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)....5 CNN, 8 for the various broadcast networks.
SouthernAtheist
(45 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Probably lasting well into the morning and well into tomorrow. He is going to go ballistic. I hope he strokes out.
SWBTATTReg
(22,154 posts)than Obama, or he is just plain racist (he isn't better and he is racist).
All trump has done is prove that he's a rabid racist and grossly incompetent.
Furthermore, he's proving just how magnificent President Obama was, as one of the best presidents we've ever had in recent times.
I guess when one has to work for a living (vs. a racist one w/ a tarnished spoon in his mouth), it makes a world of difference in how you approach doing things, how you handle people, etc.
liberalla
(9,256 posts)Talk about unintended consequences!
Through his own incompetence, Drump is reminding people of what we had in Obama. Of course President Obama doesn't need any help in boosting his popularity or the memory of his presidency, but dRump is doing just that.
Butterflylady
(3,546 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Alex4Martinez
(2,198 posts)Did anyone see that, it needs to be posted again and shared!
cayugafalls
(5,641 posts)I can't find the exact image but I did find these;
Alex4Martinez
(2,198 posts)marble falls
(57,140 posts)CatMor
(6,212 posts)at that Correspondents Dinner after the ridiculous birtherism garbage. Everyone makes even more fun of trump now and it doesn't seem to bother him the way it did with President Obama.
DFW
(54,424 posts)He never realized that he would care, either, until it was too late.
Every president leaves a legacy, something which he is remembered by.
Some are decidedly mixed, (LBJ would be a glaring example). Some are mostly positive (Clinton), some are mostly negative (Cheney dba Bush II). Some are larger than life (FDR). Some are downright disgraces (Harding). Some are those rare presidencies where the accomplishments were substantial without being flashy or spectacular in the Hollywood sense. Obama's was one such presidency. He saved the economy even as McTurtle tried to prevent it--not because McTurtle thought he had a better plan, but because he didn't want OBAMA to be the one who saved it (hey Mitchie? If you didn't want Obama to save the economy, you shouldn't have helped Cheney fuck it up to the point where it needed saving!!). Obama got the ACA passed. Obama got Bin Laden. Obama kept the USA on an even keel, both economy-wise and foreign-policy-wise. Despite the obvious setbacks, the world nevertheless looked up to Obama's USA as a power to be respected, and to Obama personally as a leader who had the gravitas, intelligence, and awareness of the world to lead such a nation. Born into a situation which traditionally dictated that such a man would NEVER have the chance to ascend to the presidency, he commanded respect from abroad not because he overcame those long odds, but also because he never made a big "lookit me!" deal over having done it. A simple "yes, we can" was enough of a message.
I think two things have been dawning on Trump in the last few months. One is the strong likelihood that he will be a one-term president. The other is that his legacy will be one of disorganization, incompetence, arrogance, institutionalized corruption, and--worst of all for him--there is NOTHING HE CAN DO TO CHANGE THAT. No money, no threats, no comments on Fox Noise by Hannity will ever change the fact that HISTORY, that one unforgiving perspective, will condemn him as an uncaring charlatan who was quite simply out of place. He was no more suited to be president than he was to be the high priest at a Buddhist monastery. That in itself doesn't bother him. That 6 out of 7 billion OTHER people know it, too--THAT will bother him until the end of his days.
MyOwnPeace
(16,936 posts)" He was no more suited to be president than he was to be the high priest at a Buddhist monastery. That in itself doesn't bother him. That 6 out of 7 billion OTHER people know it, too--THAT will bother him until the end of his days."
So that he may suffer no more, can it be possible for the "end of his days" to happen sooner rather than later?
panader0
(25,816 posts)dalton99a
(81,561 posts)Grokenstein
(5,727 posts)Chainfire
(17,582 posts)to be severely beaten with the "Obama stick." Comparing the failures with the Trump administration to the successes of the Obama administration will drive him over the edge. Perhaps, late in the campaign, Obama will begin to attack the lies of the present administration and its leader. A calm, smiling Obama blowing apart Trump's lies would surely fall sweetly upon my ears.
Trump lives in mortal fear that he will be historically bested by his black predecessor; it is the wages of racism.
Response to Chainfire (Reply #21)
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MyOwnPeace
(16,936 posts)..but it could possibly cause a fire for that pelt that sits atop that empty orange chamber upon which it rests.
Chainfire
(17,582 posts)I would love to see a good old fashioned frothing at the mouth, rug chewing breakdown by the Commander in Chief, and Obama has the power to bring it on. There is anecdotal evidence that Trump's hero did that, and I am certain that the Lincoln Project could get some mileage from the film footage:
During the Sudeten crisis the first signs of madness of the Führer were revealed. In those days, the mere mention of Bene and the Czechs made him so livid he would lose his self-control completely. People have witnessed him throwing himself to the floor and chewing the carpet out of sheer anger. Those fits of madness gave him the nickname Teppichfresser (carpet-eater) among his enemies. I do not know whether he made a habit of chewing the carpets when he completely lost his temper, or whether the symptom disappeared after the Munich agreement.[*]
Grasswire2
(13,571 posts)Thanks for that image....LOLOL
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I knew he started to lose it at the end, but I had no idea it reached such levels. That is seriously some effed up behavior. I suspect we don't even know the worst of Trump's tantrums yet and it won't come out for many years.
One thing I would like to see would be a breakdown on this level in public so that even his staunchest defenders could not deny that he was completely mad and incapable of functioning in an executive role.
dalton99a
(81,561 posts)hibbing
(10,102 posts)certainot
(9,090 posts)the recent flareup may have been flamed by obama but recently before that limbaugh started attacking obama again especially in terms of restarting calling obama the deep state fbi coup leader - which has been going since inauguration as if the russians were back then crafting a defensive narrative. since barr 'exhonoraated' flynn limbaugh has ben calling it proof and that he had the facts to prove it, etc. and has even gone after michelle.
limbaugh feeds, backs up, and is well coordinated with the white house and it is truly aa huge mistake that democrats collectively and individually who want to get obama's back continue to give rw radio a free speech free ride
especially considering all the evidence suggesting putin has been using limbaugh and talk radio since at least 2008.
Javaman
(62,532 posts)Being born on third and thinks he hit a triple, but more over hes pissed that people arent slapping him on the back for hitting that triple. Then he gets pissed off when some actually does hit a teiple and gets all the accolades
catbyte
(34,416 posts)NRaleighLiberal
(60,017 posts)Joe Mauriceovich
(52 posts)When they look at me, they see what they are." - Anthony Hopkins as Richard Nixon, addressing the portrait of JFK, in an apocryphal scene from Oliver Stone's 'Nixon.' Of course, in Trump's case, it's unlikely he is even CAPABLE of reflection on the psychology of his Cult!
MyOwnPeace
(16,936 posts)he's not even capable of ANY reflection!
And WELCOME to DU! I like the way you speak!
Joe Mauriceovich
(52 posts)And thank you for the greeting.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)vapor2
(1,248 posts)trump has penis envy
mnmoderatedem
(3,728 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,122 posts)"What did the president know...?". Monumentally more about any subject than you, roofer boy!
" ...when did he know it?". He knew more about everything your entire miserable life, punk!
scarytomcat
(1,706 posts)he.is hearing sht and he must blame someone else.
He is a child.
Gothmog
(145,456 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,086 posts)Barack Obama is going to be the on every national TV network tonight, and not that syphilitic, orange bag of manbaby pus. I expect we'll get an epic Twitter tantrum in response.
Cha
(297,450 posts)his nasty assface self onto him.
Gothmog
(145,456 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)No matter what he does or who he screw - he will never know the undying love of hundreds of millions or world citizens.