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brooklynite

(94,665 posts)
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:27 PM May 2020

What Liberals Don't Get About Trump Supporters and Pop Culture

[link:https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/05/16/trump-death-star-pop-culture-mutiny-bounty-curb-enthusiasm-260471|]

When President Donald Trump’s 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale, triumphantly invoked the “Star Wars” universe to liken the president’s reelection effort to the “Death Star,” all but ready to “start pressing FIRE,” it was both a standard display of MAGA braggadocio and a brief respite from the unrelenting, bleak coronavirus discourse.

Well-meaning liberals instantly took the bait and flooded Parscale’s replies to let him know he had, supposedly, missed the point — “Didn’t make it till the end of Star Wars, huh?” tweeted the Daily Beast’s Molly Jong-Fast. NBC legal analyst Barb McQuade plaintively (and quite reasonably) asked, “Who chooses to portray themselves as the Death Star?” (Spoiler alert, for the uninitiated: The Death Star belongs to the bad guys. The bad guys lose.)

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The real explanation is much simpler and more believable: When Parscale and his ilk approvingly identify themselves with pre-redemption Darth Vader, or Thanos, or even Dr. Evil, they surely understand those characters’ morality perfectly well. It’s not so much that Trump, et. al actively identify as “villains,” but that the behavior that makes one a “villain” in fiction—deceit, wanton rule-breaking, a willful disregard for collateral damage—is, in real life, more likely to get one branded a “winner,” provided one plays their cards right. Enron executives? Elizabeth Holmes? The steroid-juicing baseball heroes of the 1990s? Winners all—at least until they got caught.

Through that lens, everything from the Justice Department dropping charges against Michael Flynn post-guilty plea, to the president’s continued enrichment from his various hotels and business entities (to much worse) is as justifiable as the destruction of Alderaan. Rule-bound critics across the ideological spectrum can cry and moan as much as they want; the Trump administration has the power, is #winning and will do as it pleases, until they’re similarly caught red-handed. (To the extent that remains a possibility—the insulation from accountability provided by such magnificent power as the presidency is, of course, one of its most enjoyable perks.)

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What Liberals Don't Get About Trump Supporters and Pop Culture (Original Post) brooklynite May 2020 OP
nothing Trumpers love to do more qazplm135 May 2020 #1
This is the basis for fascism DBoon May 2020 #2
K and R...Thank You for posting this article...no text Stuart G May 2020 #3
What freelance culture and politics writers don't get about explaining things... JHB May 2020 #4
Elections have consequences yankee87 May 2020 #5
So Get Out The Vote kurtcagle May 2020 #6

DBoon

(22,383 posts)
2. This is the basis for fascism
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:39 PM
May 2020

Worship of violence and brute strength, strongman leaders above the law, winning creates it own morality. Subservience to winners is an obligation.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
4. What freelance culture and politics writers don't get about explaining things...
Sat May 16, 2020, 01:53 PM
May 2020

Taking 1300 words to make a point that fits on a bumper sticker or two.

It's the display of intimidation, stupid.

It's the display of power, stupid.

Trump's cultists are like the people crowding around while a bully beats on some one, yelling "Yeah! Get'im!".

They like the vicarious feel of power by being "on their side", and most especially the fact that they're not the target.

yankee87

(2,175 posts)
5. Elections have consequences
Sat May 16, 2020, 02:15 PM
May 2020

As stated many times, elections have consequences. We all know republicans will do anything to win, but Putin's puppet has taken corruption to a whole new level. Like you said, his cultists don't care as long as he sticks it to the liberals. He has told them to sacrifice family members for him, and they cheer him. Jim Jones would be proud.

kurtcagle

(1,604 posts)
6. So Get Out The Vote
Sat May 16, 2020, 07:20 PM
May 2020

I think one of the things that most liberals tend to forget is that the purpose for taking back the House was to keep Trump and the GOP from going full bore fascist. It wasn't impeachment - that was always a nice to have but it is a symbolic gesture at best. It was to keep a toehold on power and prevent the GOP and Trump from enshrining his administration into law.

Had we not won back the House, we'd be a full-blown fascist state by now. As it is, for all that Trump is breaking the law daily, he can't fund his programs. He can't push forward his agenda. He will do everything in his power to stay in power, but he's facing a very hard deadline in less than six months, has a pandemic that is raging through the country (and likely like it will flare up again by September), has no vaccine in sight and has an economy which is dead in the water. If Trump falls, the Senate will fall. At that point, I fully expect that he will attempt to declare martial law. The problem with that is that he can only do so with Congressional approval, and the House won't allow that, Pelosi won't allow that. Should he lose, he may very well beseech the red states to secede. However, once he has lost, he also loses any real authority that he still retains, and I don't think there will be a governor out there who wants to ally themselves with the man who lost the election.

The last special election went to the GOP in California and Wisconsin, but it's worth looking at the subtext of the election. In California, it was an off-election replacing a Congresswoman implicated in a scandal, in a traditionally red district that will be redone in November, one where a lot of money was spent by the GOP and not much by the Democrats, with mail-in-ballots favoring the GOP for once. Wisconsin was very similar, with another election coming in November. In both cases, it was simply not worth dropping the money into elections that would be overturned in November.

Right now, Democracy is in a holding pattern. Trump will continue breaking the law, but he's also realized that his base, by itself, is not going to legitimately give him the election, and that he's pissed off the people who might put him over the edge. He's abandoned any pretext that he's in control of the Coronavirus situation, and his biggest supporters are now getting sick with it. It galls many of us to have to sit and watch patiently while Trump becomes more and more lawless, but I have no doubt, Winter IS Coming.

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