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Playinghardball

(11,665 posts)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:53 PM Sep 2012

The White House Tells Kansas, "Prove U.S. Membership or Risk Removal from Electoral College."

On Friday, Republican officials in the State of Kansas revealed that they are considering removing President Obama from November's presidential ballot.

The reason?

The Kansas State Objections Board is considering removing President Barack Obama from the November ballot because of doubts over his place of birth, according to the Topeka Capital-Journal.
The panel of Republicans, which consists of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer, received a complaint from a resident who claimed Obama was not a natural born citizen and therefore ineligible to be president.


Joe Montgomery, who filed the ballot challenge that is now being pursued by Kansas, said, "there is substantial evidence showing that much of Mr. Obama’s alleged birth certificates have been forged or doctored, and have not been confirmed as legally valid, true and accurate.”
In response, White House press secretary Jay Carney told Jake Tapper, who broached the issue at an afternoon presser:

There is substantial evidence that the State of Kansas itself is forged or doctored. Just look at the borders: the state's almost perfectly rectangular right smack in the middle of the country. It's almost as if those lines have been completely made up.
And the name. Kansas? Isn't there already an Arkansas? Doesn't sound true and accurate to me.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/14/1131926/-The-White-House-Tells-Kansas-Prove-U-S-Membership-or-Risk-Removal-from-Electoral-College
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The White House Tells Kansas, "Prove U.S. Membership or Risk Removal from Electoral College." (Original Post) Playinghardball Sep 2012 OP
They'll have to take Romney off the ballot, too, then rocktivity Sep 2012 #1
George Romney was born in Mexico. He ran for the GOP predidential nomination. HOW??????? marble falls Sep 2012 #75
OOOH, ROFLMBAO! Well, how bout that K? Good lord, the people who labour under the mendacity Ecumenist Sep 2012 #2
don't laugh greymattermom Sep 2012 #46
Religious right in Kansas truther Sep 2012 #60
Welcome to DU. calimary Sep 2012 #73
welcome to DU! renate Sep 2012 #78
not easy truther Sep 2012 #84
Oh no, I wasn't laughing at the people of Kansas but the idiots trying to usurp the country Ecumenist Sep 2012 #82
Just more proof that the American people have been inflicted with moronic leadership lumpy Sep 2012 #3
Wow? This reads like Cha Sep 2012 #4
I have said it before.... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #21
We agree.. Cha Sep 2012 #24
Thank you... awoke_in_2003 Sep 2012 #55
Yes, cheers to... 3catwoman3 Sep 2012 #85
The 'tags' on the article in the OP include: Fiction, Satire, Snark Tx4obama Sep 2012 #29
Thanks, Tx! Cha Sep 2012 #39
It took me a minute to figure out what was going on :) Tx4obama Sep 2012 #40
"As well as proof that the rock band Kansas was named TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #64
It's satire. pacalo Sep 2012 #77
UPDATE: Request to review Obama has been withdrawn by petitioner. (LINK) Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #5
F Joe. DURHAM D Sep 2012 #11
Sounds Like The Fool Got Scorched By The Flames Of His Foolishness, Sir The Magistrate Sep 2012 #12
LOL, oh yes it does! nt Poll_Blind Sep 2012 #14
hit it.. frylock Sep 2012 #25
+1 n/t LarryNM Sep 2012 #42
....."on a personal political level,” THAT'S the problem with them thecrow Sep 2012 #17
Goddammit n/t Strelnikov_ Sep 2012 #19
Hey Hey Hey! Thanks Poll_Blind! Cha Sep 2012 #26
What a complete dildo. Zoeisright Sep 2012 #36
Oh, shame on you clydefrand Sep 2012 #44
Dildoes are useful. Let's not insult them. nt msanthrope Sep 2012 #70
Koch Industries is incorporated in Kansas (nm) Mrs. Ted Nancy Sep 2012 #43
Translation: Got my ass handed to me. Shutting up, now. Warren DeMontague Sep 2012 #48
Excellent translation. aquart Sep 2012 #54
So it worked, Joe? aquart Sep 2012 #52
as a chagrined native of Kansas, it's LibGranny Sep 2012 #62
My guess is that the vet school he works for mrs_p Sep 2012 #69
Indeed. The faculty there must be shaking their heads in complete kestrel91316 Sep 2012 #80
Except that this doesn't end this lunatic case. liberalhistorian Sep 2012 #81
Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaa! MuseRider Sep 2012 #6
I'm reading Lou Engle scat all over this. nt patrice Sep 2012 #15
Remember Newtie boy was here sucking up to Engle, scrunching his face up and shaking with patrice Sep 2012 #16
Engle is just one among many sadly. MuseRider Sep 2012 #20
I know what you mean. VERY tired myself. Must force myself to put one foot in front patrice Sep 2012 #56
I wish they had the brass to actully release something like this. n/t Gore1FL Sep 2012 #7
This is the result of an electorate who fell asleep in 2010 BumRushDaShow Sep 2012 #8
Cut off all federal funds until they prove that they are a state NightWatcher Sep 2012 #9
Which president would you vote for? Baitball Blogger Sep 2012 #10
Kobach is playing to Lou Engle's End-timing TEAterrorists. nt patrice Sep 2012 #13
LOL, this sounds exactly what the Onion guys would write......nt AverageJoe90 Sep 2012 #18
Post removed Post removed Sep 2012 #22
Love it! man4allcats Sep 2012 #23
LOL Funny how they never say who they would accept to confirm it as valid. Live and Learn Sep 2012 #27
omg, hilarious! Emit Sep 2012 #28
The 'tags' on the article in the OP include: Fiction, Satire, Snark Tx4obama Sep 2012 #30
How can anyone think the White House Lex Sep 2012 #33
Lots of people believe satire even when it's obvious ck4829 Sep 2012 #38
Okay ... the whole Kansas and Arkansas thing just blew my mind... Drunken Irishman Sep 2012 #31
Oh, god don't tell me that-I'm trying to quit smoking KrazyinKS Sep 2012 #32
I love how Obama played hardball with Kansas. DippyDem Sep 2012 #34
Seriously? Lex Sep 2012 #45
I think... Oilwellian Sep 2012 #51
Don't bother ck4829 Sep 2012 #58
You're right, laughter is better - KrazyinKS Sep 2012 #35
Local news is reporting Montgomery is dropping his petition. proud2BlibKansan Sep 2012 #37
Yes, I think I just saw that on the local news KrazyinKS Sep 2012 #41
I can't recognize irony anymore. nt caseymoz Sep 2012 #47
More and more, I have to ask Stinky whether news I see here is real, or a joke. Sparkly Sep 2012 #49
It's Kansas M_M Sep 2012 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Sep 2012 #53
Montgomery needs to pay all costs his stupid shenanigans have caused. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2012 #71
Uh oh...I live in Missouri but work in Kansas....will I need a passport to get to work cbdo2007 Sep 2012 #57
Racism is alive and well in Kansas B Calm Sep 2012 #59
And 49 other states, unfortunately. nt ncgrits Sep 2012 #61
But, the president's mother is from Kansas! B Calm Sep 2012 #83
all those morons who claim the president was not born in the US shireen Sep 2012 #63
The White House is talking to a state that is already imaginary, according to Ms. Toad Sep 2012 #65
Nebraska looks...different... TwilightGardener Sep 2012 #66
Just a tad. Ms. Toad Sep 2012 #72
When the Republicans lose the race... Katashi_itto Sep 2012 #67
Snort...... Historic NY Sep 2012 #68
Someone should make toilet paper out of the Kansas Edict. Chipper Chat Sep 2012 #74
Reads like something NOLALady Sep 2012 #76
So in conclusion it seems sufficient to say...WE DON'T HAVE KANSAS ANYMORE!!!!! Astazia Sep 2012 #79

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. They'll have to take Romney off the ballot, too, then
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:56 PM
Sep 2012

If a birth certificate is enough proof that Mitt and his mother were born in the US though his father wasn't -- the EXACT same circumstances -- he should be held to the SAME standard!


rocktivity

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
2. OOOH, ROFLMBAO! Well, how bout that K? Good lord, the people who labour under the mendacity
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:57 PM
Sep 2012

of most of the Kansan government have my deepest condolences. I should feel guilty for laughing at them but watch this:
How ya like that, idiots?

truther

(2 posts)
60. Religious right in Kansas
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:44 AM
Sep 2012

I am in Kansas. The nicest,friendliest people I have ever known and loved are here. But they are so naive and inconsistent with their reasoning that it's nuts.

calimary

(81,283 posts)
73. Welcome to DU.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:26 PM
Sep 2012

Probably because they're listening to, and trusting, all the wrong people.

I'm originally from Missouri. Look who's running for a Senate seat there!

renate

(13,776 posts)
78. welcome to DU!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 04:45 PM
Sep 2012

I believe you--I'm a big fan of the Midwest, and "Minnesota Nice" isn't just limited to Minnesota. It must be frustrating to be surrounded by such sweet, nice, genuinely good people without being able to persuade them that the party that really reflects their kind-hearted principles is the Democratic party and not the GOP.

truther

(2 posts)
84. not easy
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 07:59 PM
Sep 2012

Sometimes it's more than frustrating ; it's infuriating. Highly educated people defy all logic in favor of the rumor emails and Limbaugh.

Ecumenist

(6,086 posts)
82. Oh no, I wasn't laughing at the people of Kansas but the idiots trying to usurp the country
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:05 PM
Sep 2012

at every turn. I feel so sorry for you. I have to go to Arizona for cancer treatment and although I honestly care for the people I've met, I LOATHE THAT STATE! It actually feels heavy.


At least, I'm able to leave and come back to northern California. You have my most sincere condolences and sympathies.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
3. Just more proof that the American people have been inflicted with moronic leadership
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:01 PM
Sep 2012

mostly by Republican pols. Time to kick out the morons in Congress.

Cha

(297,253 posts)
4. Wow? This reads like
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:03 PM
Sep 2012

the Onion.

From your link, Playinghardball..

"The White House also released a statement in which it indicated the Justice Department is now looking into whether or not Kansas has defrauded the United States all these years.
"If we find that Kansas was not actually born in the U.S., and is not actually an original member state but a fraud, we will be forced to remove it from the electoral college," the statement read.

Officials are waiting for Kansas to prove its membership by delivering to the White House verified copies of its original constitution, as well as proof that the rock band Kansas was named after the state, and not the Kansa Native American tribe (which formerly inhabited the area).

So far, Kansas officials have yet to produce the required documents."


Sounds like the White House is playing hardball!
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
21. I have said it before....
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:48 PM
Sep 2012

but someone on the team is a smart ass. I mean that in a very positive way. The only way to answer dumb assery is with smart assery.

3catwoman3

(23,995 posts)
85. Yes, cheers to...
Tue Sep 18, 2012, 12:41 PM
Sep 2012

...a great new vocabulary word, which I will definitely be adding to my word stash.

One of my favorite "words that aren't words but should be" is "ignoranus" - one who is both stupid AND an a$$h*le.

If you are capable of smartassery, you are not an ignoranus!

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
29. The 'tags' on the article in the OP include: Fiction, Satire, Snark
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:19 PM
Sep 2012

So, the White House part is NOT real




Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
40. It took me a minute to figure out what was going on :)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:19 PM
Sep 2012

I wasn't expecting a satire piece with QUOTES from DailyKos
with out it clearly saying it was satire.
But when I read the comments over there someone mentioned the 'tags' on the post,
and then I thought "Duh!"

LOL


TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
64. "As well as proof that the rock band Kansas was named
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:23 AM
Sep 2012

after the state"--as a big Kansas fan, I have to LOL! (I know, it's probably satire)

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
5. UPDATE: Request to review Obama has been withdrawn by petitioner. (LINK)
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:04 PM
Sep 2012

From here:
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/09/14/kansas-gop-officials-consider-removing-obama-from-november-ballot/?onswipe_redirect=never

Update (9/12/12): Joe Montgomery reportedly emailed the Kansas secretary of state Friday afternoon withdrawing his objection to Obama’s presence on the ballot. He told The Huffington Post that the public reaction to his request played a role in his decision to withdraw it. ”I didn’t file this objection with the desire to involve anyone else. This is me expressing myself on a personal political level,” he said. “I would appreciate it if people would not call anyone associated with me, whether a personal or professional association.”


PB

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
12. Sounds Like The Fool Got Scorched By The Flames Of His Foolishness, Sir
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:12 PM
Sep 2012

“I would appreciate it if people would not call anyone associated with me, whether a personal or professional association.”

I suggest you keep those cards and letters coming in, folks....

thecrow

(5,519 posts)
17. ....."on a personal political level,” THAT'S the problem with them
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sep 2012

They are all trying to act independantly.
It's all about me me me... like the RNC where they mentioned their candidate as an afterthought.
It's like Romney today after the solemn respectful ceremony of the receiving of the remains.... here he's at a political rally and acting all cheery AND SMILING as he refers to the dead and has the people behind him holding up the letters of his name.
Ptooie on them. Me me me me indeed!

Cha

(297,253 posts)
26. Hey Hey Hey! Thanks Poll_Blind!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:09 PM
Sep 2012

So Kansas is on board with Pres Obama on the ballot..while ol Joe Montgomery licks his wounds.

Here's to the White House for not putting up with his assholeness.

LibGranny

(711 posts)
62. as a chagrined native of Kansas, it's
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:50 AM
Sep 2012

the idiots in charge of the Secy of State's office (and board of elections) who are continuing this! They seem to enjoy making the whole of Kansas look like the idiots they are! It really starts with our repugnicant gov Brownback - now Kansas is known as Brownbackistan!

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
69. My guess is that the vet school he works for
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 01:52 PM
Sep 2012

got really pissed off. How can KSU vet med be considered a serious scientific program with a nut as their "communicator"?

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
80. Indeed. The faculty there must be shaking their heads in complete
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:01 PM
Sep 2012

embarrassment. Because THEY aren't native Kansans. THEY come from all over the world. And medical/scientific types tend to be quite liberal, especially in academia - unless they seek professional suicide (since conservatives hate genuine universities, esp when publicly funded like KSU).

liberalhistorian

(20,818 posts)
81. Except that this doesn't end this lunatic case.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sep 2012

According to the full article, the Board of Objections still plans to meet on Monday to "further discuss" the case and to discuss and get to the bottom of the "unprecedented withdrawal" of the complaint. The republican idiots on the board are NOT letting go of their chance to stick it to Obama.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
6. Ha Ha Ha Haaaaaaa!
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:05 PM
Sep 2012

This is what we live with here. The few of us who venture out with liberal ideas and and work for the good of ALL the people live under (I do mean under) these bozos. You think it is bad now? You aint seen nothing yet. If we have 30 Democrats anywhere in the vicinity of the Legislature this year we will be lucky and the moderate Republicans have been decimated. We are now in the hands of the talibornagain teabillies lead by the head of the talibornagain cretins, Brownback.

Wish us luck. Don't tell me about leaving, not even going to consider it. This is my state too, once called a Free State and I am not leaving. We could certainly use some help here though. Hell, I am tickled to death that the White House even knows we exist! The Democrats certainly don't.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
16. Remember Newtie boy was here sucking up to Engle, scrunching his face up and shaking with
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:18 PM
Sep 2012

spiritual fervor, for a few dollars more.

MuseRider

(34,111 posts)
20. Engle is just one among many sadly.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:33 PM
Sep 2012

He is loud and known but there are so many of these nutjobs here now.

I am beginning to think I need to drop out. Just live on my little farm, go into town as little a possible. Turn off the news, stop reading all political sites. I love it here but the crazies are making me a wreck.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
56. I know what you mean. VERY tired myself. Must force myself to put one foot in front
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 10:14 PM
Sep 2012

of the other. No job, no health care.

I do have a couple of very young movement-politics Dem candidates I'm interested in though. They're wanting some changes in the state party, not unlike a few others I can think of.

BumRushDaShow

(129,047 posts)
8. This is the result of an electorate who fell asleep in 2010
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:07 PM
Sep 2012

TehCrazy™ is everywhere.

Edit to add - Tweety is talking about this now.

Baitball Blogger

(46,715 posts)
10. Which president would you vote for?
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 05:10 PM
Sep 2012

One who invests in his own country with his tax dollars? Or one who looks for every loophole?

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
27. LOL Funny how they never say who they would accept to confirm it as valid.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:11 PM
Sep 2012

They certainly don't view Hawaii's registrar as qualified. Betting Sheriff Joe is the only one they view as qualified.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
30. The 'tags' on the article in the OP include: Fiction, Satire, Snark
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:21 PM
Sep 2012

So, the White House part is NOT real.



 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
31. Okay ... the whole Kansas and Arkansas thing just blew my mind...
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:27 PM
Sep 2012

I wonder why I hadn't seen that before?!?

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
32. Oh, god don't tell me that-I'm trying to quit smoking
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:29 PM
Sep 2012

Yes I live in Wichita, I have come to the point of not even bringing up politics. These guys are KRAZY!!! I am trying to quit smoking its been over a month since I have had a cigarette--every time I try to quit someone has to come over and make me want to go buy a pack. !!!

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
35. You're right, laughter is better -
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 06:54 PM
Sep 2012

than sitting there with your head in your hands. The problem is these guys really believe this shit. I personally think they are a bunch of bigots. They are racists and don't like black people. I grew up in a very white small protestant town- these guys are not exposed to a lot of different cultures or ethnic backgrounds. They will always vote for the white guy who acts like he is one of them. Bush Jr could do that-Romney can't. But he is white and Obama is black. Or half anyway. Bigots, really-sad isn't it. I think I feel pity on them. I still can't laugh.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
41. Yes, I think I just saw that on the local news
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:20 PM
Sep 2012

They said they were dropping it, It brought about a two minute spot (very short). I will have to go over to their web site to read it. I think I was walking through the living room when it came on. KWCH.COM

Sparkly

(24,149 posts)
49. More and more, I have to ask Stinky whether news I see here is real, or a joke.
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 07:48 PM
Sep 2012

I was SURE this one was fake.

These people are an international embarrassment.

Response to Playinghardball (Original post)

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
57. Uh oh...I live in Missouri but work in Kansas....will I need a passport to get to work
Fri Sep 14, 2012, 11:05 PM
Sep 2012

if they declare it's no longer a state?!?!

shireen

(8,333 posts)
63. all those morons who claim the president was not born in the US
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:05 AM
Sep 2012

should go through the same level of scrutiny to prove their US birth using the the same standards they're imposing on Pres. Obama. These people are disgusting.

Ms. Toad

(34,073 posts)
65. The White House is talking to a state that is already imaginary, according to
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:56 AM
Sep 2012

The DC office of McClatchy news on August 31:



(Captured by a relative, before McClatchyDC.com fixed their error - so unfortunately I don't have a direct link)

Ms. Toad

(34,073 posts)
72. Just a tad.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 02:18 PM
Sep 2012

The person I got it from was pointing out that her sister (who lives in Kansas) was homeless, and that her brother (who lives in Nebraska) had been moved south a few miles...unfortunately by the time I got to the link the image which wiped Kansas out was gone.

Of course, the comments by people looking at the image, trying to figure out what was wrong with the map were also amusing...

 

Katashi_itto

(10,175 posts)
67. When the Republicans lose the race...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:59 AM
Sep 2012


, they’re going to tell themselves the problem was that they weren’t extreme enough, not pure enough, not ideological enough.

It’s rather like when the Israelites kept getting their butts kicked by picking fights with the Assyrians or whomever: they told themselves they lost because they weren’t religiously observant enough, then proceeded to test that belief by losing again.
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